Brief summary of trying to play a melee StamBlade in the current state of the game

Calm_Fury

THE TARGET IS OUT OF RANGE
THE TARGET IS OUT OF RANGE
THE TARGET IS OUT OF RANGE
THE TARGET IS OUT OF RANGE
THE TARGET IS OUT OF RANGE
INVALID LOCATION

[Snip]

Seriously... If this is the way the game will behave from now on regarding positioning in the client vs the server, some of those close range single target skills will really need a more forgiving hitbox check or something. Make it a wider cone or something.

Ambush is also a teleport, so why can't it just transport me to the "real" location of the enemy I see on my screen since the "fake" location on my screen also seems to be a feature now? It would play nicely with the NB fantasy.

[Edited for spamming]

shimm

I gave up on ambush in cyrodiil a long time ago... it’s been broken in pvp for a long time, unless the other guy is using it. Then it seems to work perfectly!

barney2525

Have your stamblade use 2H and charge them with the 2H skill

Calm_Fury

barney2525 wrote: »

Have your stamblade use 2H and charge them with the 2H skill

I'll try that! I'll still levelling the 2H.

But it is very disappointing. StamBlade has one of the most unique playstyles of all stam classes, if not t

pma_pacifier

stamblade has surprise attack.

imagine all other stamclasses that has to use dswing.

Calm_Fury

pma_pacifier wrote: »

stamblade has surprise attack.

imagine all other stamclasses that has to use dswing.

The "TARGET IS OUT OF RANGE" messages is when trying to use Surprise Attack.

I have no idea whatsoever how people manage to hit anything with Dizzy Swing in the game right now.

Firstmep

This affects everyone who plays melee.
Trying to execute ppl, wind up a dizzy etc just to get these messages.
My favorite is "Target is immune", when they clearly don't have cc immunity xD.

shimm

Dizzying swing has better range than surprise attack and also hits with a cone as opposed to single target, but yeah, surprise attack “misses” quite often.

Vlad9425

Trying to play anything other than an AOE build in the current state of the game is just an exercise in frustration.

barney2525

Vlad9425 wrote: »

Trying to play anything other than an AOE build in the current state of the game is just an exercise in frustration.

Which is why 2H Charge works. It can Morph to add an AoE on contact, and the passive allows you to hit multiple targets.

Kinda cool impact animation too

Muttsmutt

Calm_Fury wrote: »

...If this is the way the game will behave from now on...

y'all need to chill. it's just a buggy patch release. it's not a death sentence for the game.
seriously people, i'm as miffed as you are about the state of the game rn, but can we all just remember the ephemeral nature of things for a moment, and realize the devs haven't exactly thrown up their hands forever, never to work another day in their life?

they'll fix their ***.
calm down and have patience.
go do something else for a couple days.

AMeanOne

Muttsmutt wrote: »

Calm_Fury wrote: »

...If this is the way the game will behave from now on...

y'all need to chill. it's just a buggy patch release. it's not a death sentence for the game.
seriously people, i'm as miffed as you are about the state of the game rn, but can we all just remember the ephemeral nature of things for a moment, and realize the devs haven't exactly thrown up their hands forever, never to work another day in their life?

they'll fix their ***.
calm down and have patience.
go do something else for a couple days.

Yes that's why it's like this on console with no update yet...

x48rph

pma_pacifier wrote: »

stamblade has surprise attack.

imagine all other stamclasses that has to use dswing.

Dizzy Swing hits from 30m+, usually 4 or 5 at the same time, lol

x48rph

Muttsmutt wrote: »

Calm_Fury wrote: »

...If this is the way the game will behave from now on...

y'all need to chill. it's just a buggy patch release. it's not a death sentence for the game.
seriously people, i'm as miffed as you are about the state of the game rn, but can we all just remember the ephemeral nature of things for a moment, and realize the devs haven't exactly thrown up their hands forever, never to work another day in their life?

they'll fix their ***.
calm down and have patience.
go do something else for a couple days.

Except it's not just one buggy patch release. It's countless buggy patch releases that keep getting piled on top while issues go unresolved for months or years. People have been very understanding for years now and where has that gotten them? The game performance just keeps getting worse and the bug list grows exponentially.

Calm_Fury

Muttsmutt wrote: »

Calm_Fury wrote: »

...If this is the way the game will behave from now on...

y'all need to chill. it's just a buggy patch release. it's not a death sentence for the game.
seriously people, i'm as miffed as you are about the state of the game rn, but can we all just remember the ephemeral nature of things for a moment, and realize the devs haven't exactly thrown up their hands forever, never to work another day in their life?

they'll fix their ***.
calm down and have patience.
go do something else for a couple days.

It's not just this patch... The positioning desyncs started I think about a year ago and kept getting worse. This latest patch just made it even worse for me personally.

Calm_Fury

shimm wrote: »

Dizzying swing has better range than surprise attack and also hits with a cone as opposed to single target, but yeah, surprise attack “misses” quite often.

That is what I think should be done to more skills.

Surprise Attack seems so hard to land now. It is very unforgiving in the single target check.

Czekoludek

pma_pacifier wrote: »

stamblade has surprise attack.

imagine all other stamclasses that has to use dswing.

Dizzy have 7 meters range, Surprise Attack only 5 meter so actually stamblade have much harder time hitting with their spammable in laggy environment then dizzy users. BTW why surprise attack have the worst melee range attack from all melee spammables (dk have passive that gives them 7 meters but it is dumb as 7 meters should be native value for all melee attacks) is beyond me. They should standarize melee attacks to have 7 meters range (including LA) if they love their spreedsheets so much

Daemons_Bane

I know it's different for everyone, but surprise attack works just fine for me.. the only range problem occurs when I try to loot corpses

Calm_Fury

Daemons_Bane wrote: »

I know it's different for everyone, but surprise attack works just fine for me.. the only range problem occurs when I try to loot corpses

My latency hovers between 90-150, so I think this might be part of the issue.

The latency tracker in ESO is very unreliable now that it only updates once in a lifetime, but I noticed the problem gets a lot worse when it goes to around 120 or more ping.

notyuu

not just stamblade..I've noticed that since the patch there's a considerable delay between preassing a button and a skill firing in every single damn aspect of the game, it's like playing in cyro all the time..it bloody sucks

Calm_Fury

Well, looks like mods edited the original post so it lost a little bit of the "dramatic effect", hehe

Firstmep wrote: »

This affects everyone who plays melee.
Trying to execute ppl, wind up a dizzy etc just to get these messages.
My favorite is "Target is immune", when they clearly don't have cc immunity xD.

Missed you message, but yes. I'm pretty sure it does.

I retired my StamSorc since I hate the new way it plays after it got the identity pass, but still play StamPlar a lot. I don't have issues with the StamPlar because Jabs is not single target so I can still use it even if I'm not hitting anything.

I haven't leveled my other stam specs in my PC account yet but I'm sure this is a widespread problem with melee specs with single target abilities.