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Some things I would like to see changed when it comes to Dungeon queuing, among other things.
Thevampirenight
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The current dungeon system, is not as great.
1. Normal dungeons, you got the simple ones anyone can do even without roles, don't need tanks you don't need healers though they are beneficial sure. But then you got the dlc dungeons most of them are more difficult then your base game normal and this is why people including myself feel like, they need to have an independent queue from the normal random. A lot like how they are doing the group and solo pvp thing next update.
2. Roles system is more important with more challenging content. But then this game allows for you to be a tank/dps or a healer/dps or even a healer/tank. Many might run pots or their own self heals. Those self heals can then heal their team mates. Which in a way helps keep them alive. Removing that from the normal, base game dungeons could help increase dungeon queues popping. Vet Dungeons and Dlc dungeons that are more difficult, should keep that system.
Queue times for a dps take forever basically possibly many minutes, while you queue up as a tank and then you get the pop up that says your queue is ready not even a second later. Possibly even mileseconds. Queuing up as a healer or tank gets you into the queue and dungeon a lot faster then queuing up as a dps and this is a cold hard fact. People may complain about fake tanks or healers. But those people might change their mind if they suddenly got rid of faking it, and would want that restored rather quicky. Fake Tanks, and Healers make the system work. That is a cold hard reality right now.
Say I got this exp scroll, that is on a count down, a 150% exp one, this one only lasts one hour while the 50% ones last 2, something I wished they would change. If I want to power level, using the event. Say this character is a dps, I wouldn't want to waste my time on one waiting 15, minutes or an hour for one random queue to pop not when the scroll is on a timer and only a limited time to use it. This is where I say okay I queue as a tank or healer. Even though this character for example maybe a dps or mix. Dps/healer or something. But then someone in the group may complain your not playing that role or makes you feel bad, by calling you out and it makes you feel bad enough you might not want to queue up for dungeons again. Even though that same person only got a queue because people for example queued for that role. The only reason why he/she and the rest of them got in because there are people willing to queue other roles just to get in and get their dallies. If there was many actual healers and tanks there would be no need for people to do this. You wouldn't see this type of problem as much but that isn't how it is.
3. I would really like to see a storymode version of the dungeons, an idea is well this mode has less mobs or actually you get buffed up a bit, maybe a few npc companions of the undaunted and maybe their own npc reactions to the events and dialogue. Because its a more gutted down version of the actual dungeons maybe the bosses don't drop as great rewards, and maybe there is unique achievements for this mode completion but not actual beneficial set items or anything like that. The idea of this mode is uou can actually go in solo and experience the stories, enjoy the dialogue and the lore that comes from these places. Without having to hold back your team, where many just want to finish it. Allows you to enjoy the quests and the content to the fullest extent.
Gist of this.
1.Separate base game dungeons from Dlc dungeons making them independent random queues.
2. Remove the roles from many of the normal base game dungeons that are easy enough to not require it. Keep them for vet dungeons and dlc normal and vet and more challenging base game normal dungeons.
3. Add in some type of storymode system, a more cut down version of a dungeon that allows players to experience the stories solo. Especially for the dlc dungeons because they are tied to the story now. To experience the full story requires you to do them and because people want to just skip the unique lore and stuff and just get to the end. Can't even enjoy the full story. That is a big problem. That is why people don't like the story being tied to these dungeons.
Edited by Thevampirenight on November 1, 2020 12:51AM 1. Normal dungeons, you got the simple ones anyone can do even without roles, don't need tanks you don't need healers though they are beneficial sure. But then you got the dlc dungeons most of them are more difficult then your base game normal and this is why people including myself feel like, they need to have an independent queue from the normal random. A lot like how they are doing the group and solo pvp thing next update.
2. Roles system is more important with more challenging content. But then this game allows for you to be a tank/dps or a healer/dps or even a healer/tank. Many might run pots or their own self heals. Those self heals can then heal their team mates. Which in a way helps keep them alive. Removing that from the normal, base game dungeons could help increase dungeon queues popping. Vet Dungeons and Dlc dungeons that are more difficult, should keep that system.
Queue times for a dps take forever basically possibly many minutes, while you queue up as a tank and then you get the pop up that says your queue is ready not even a second later. Possibly even mileseconds. Queuing up as a healer or tank gets you into the queue and dungeon a lot faster then queuing up as a dps and this is a cold hard fact. People may complain about fake tanks or healers. But those people might change their mind if they suddenly got rid of faking it, and would want that restored rather quicky. Fake Tanks, and Healers make the system work. That is a cold hard reality right now.
Say I got this exp scroll, that is on a count down, a 150% exp one, this one only lasts one hour while the 50% ones last 2, something I wished they would change. If I want to power level, using the event. Say this character is a dps, I wouldn't want to waste my time on one waiting 15, minutes or an hour for one random queue to pop not when the scroll is on a timer and only a limited time to use it. This is where I say okay I queue as a tank or healer. Even though this character for example maybe a dps or mix. Dps/healer or something. But then someone in the group may complain your not playing that role or makes you feel bad, by calling you out and it makes you feel bad enough you might not want to queue up for dungeons again. Even though that same person only got a queue because people for example queued for that role. The only reason why he/she and the rest of them got in because there are people willing to queue other roles just to get in and get their dallies. If there was many actual healers and tanks there would be no need for people to do this. You wouldn't see this type of problem as much but that isn't how it is.
3. I would really like to see a storymode version of the dungeons, an idea is well this mode has less mobs or actually you get buffed up a bit, maybe a few npc companions of the undaunted and maybe their own npc reactions to the events and dialogue. Because its a more gutted down version of the actual dungeons maybe the bosses don't drop as great rewards, and maybe there is unique achievements for this mode completion but not actual beneficial set items or anything like that. The idea of this mode is uou can actually go in solo and experience the stories, enjoy the dialogue and the lore that comes from these places. Without having to hold back your team, where many just want to finish it. Allows you to enjoy the quests and the content to the fullest extent.
Gist of this.
1.Separate base game dungeons from Dlc dungeons making them independent random queues.
2. Remove the roles from many of the normal base game dungeons that are easy enough to not require it. Keep them for vet dungeons and dlc normal and vet and more challenging base game normal dungeons.
3. Add in some type of storymode system, a more cut down version of a dungeon that allows players to experience the stories solo. Especially for the dlc dungeons because they are tied to the story now. To experience the full story requires you to do them and because people want to just skip the unique lore and stuff and just get to the end. Can't even enjoy the full story. That is a big problem. That is why people don't like the story being tied to these dungeons.
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Please add Fangs to Vampires.
Please add Fangs to Vampires.
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Starlight_Whisper✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nah I have seen people fail normal spindle clutch. Roles exists for a reason
Dlcs aren't bad outside hard mode anymore.
Yes to story mode...I don't remember stories of dungeons even after playing four something years.3 -
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✭✭No need to separate queues. There's already an option to select specific dungeons. You won't get random xp but to get the reward there should be a little risk at least.0