Rule check for getting paid to play

TheImperfect

I'm wanting to know if it is against any rules or terms of service to charge people real money for assistance in game? For example if I offered to farm a resource for a busy worker when they are unable to play for say 15 dollars per hour is that OK or will it get us banned?

dcam86b14_ESO

yes, it is and just putting it on the forums is a calling to be banned.

Goregrinder

Well we charge for Skyreach runs and to farm mats for other people so sure.

Vevvev

Offering services for real world money is what will get you banned. Farming resources on your account and then mailing them to your friend for in-game gold or other virtual materials is not against the terms of service.

virtus753

Goregrinder wrote: »

Well we charge for Skyreach runs and to farm mats for other people so sure.

If you’re charging them real world money, that’s a violation of the Terms of Service.

If you’re charging them in-game money, that’s not a violation of the Terms of Service.

redspecter23

Real world money in exchange for anything in game would be a TOS violation.

TheImperfect

Vevvev wrote: »

Offering services for real world money is what will get you banned. Farming resources on your account and then mailing them to your friend for in-game gold or other virtual materials is not against the terms of service.

OK thank you, as I thought, was just checking. I need a job, thought why not something I enjoy but if it's against the rules I will find something else to do.

TheImperfect

virtus753 wrote: »

Goregrinder wrote: »

Well we charge for Skyreach runs and to farm mats for other people so sure.

If you’re charging them real world money, that’s a violation of the Terms of Service.

If you’re charging them in-game money, that’s not a violation of the Terms of Service.

Thankyou

TheImperfect

redspecter23 wrote: »

Real world money in exchange for anything in game would be a TOS violation.

Thankyou

HawkFest

Some people would say :

what if one buys that virtual material (via crowns that have been bought with real money then crownstore then sent as gift/mail)? Wouldn't it be the same thing? Trading is trading after all...

Fact is that ZOS revenues highly depend on people actually playing the game, else the game could simply offer a P2W wall... Here, that "wall" is under tight control, in order to make it very feasible to play to win rather than pay to win. Like having to buy ESO+ in order to farm resources for days or weeks... Or have guildies help you out with this, if not calculate exactly what you need and then buy it with in-game gold, create a guild in order to augment your inventory slots (via the guild bank) if you have 10+ members, and/or use multiple (up to 8) characters to expand that inventory (the main transfer hub bottle neck being your account banker, which requires some sound inventory management), etc. Of course, they wouldn't want that potential and control to get out of their hands, which is normal.

Most importantly: this would transform ESO into a P2W model even if ZOS doesn't want it that way!

x48rph

Most games have something in the terms about real money trading. How strict/lax it's enforced varies by game/company

Taleof2Cities

mrsrobot wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Offering services for real world money is what will get you banned. Farming resources on your account and then mailing them to your friend for in-game gold or other virtual materials is not against the terms of service.

OK thank you, as I thought, was just checking. I need a job, thought why not something I enjoy but if it's against the rules I will find something else to do.

You could become an ESO Streamer, @mrsrobot.

It's hard to start out, sure.

But, after awhile, you could potentially build up a subscription base in the thousands if done right ...

It's not for everyone though.

zvavi

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

mrsrobot wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Offering services for real world money is what will get you banned. Farming resources on your account and then mailing them to your friend for in-game gold or other virtual materials is not against the terms of service.

OK thank you, as I thought, was just checking. I need a job, thought why not something I enjoy but if it's against the rules I will find something else to do.

You could become an ESO Streamer.

It's hard to start out, sure.

But, after awhile, you could potentially build up a subscription base in the thousands if done right ...

It's not for everyone though.

It also depends on your computer and network capabilities

HawkFest

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

mrsrobot wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Offering services for real world money is what will get you banned. Farming resources on your account and then mailing them to your friend for in-game gold or other virtual materials is not against the terms of service.

OK thank you, as I thought, was just checking. I need a job, thought why not something I enjoy but if it's against the rules I will find something else to do.

You could become an ESO Streamer, @mrsrobot.

It's hard to start out, sure.

But, after awhile, you could potentially build up a subscription base in the thousands if done right ...

It's not for everyone though.

Do you know where I could find more information/leads about this ? I'd be interested, as I have some content ideas relating to ESO for instance, and all that's related (not just builds to show up or run throughs)...

TheImperfect

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

mrsrobot wrote: »

Vevvev wrote: »

Offering services for real world money is what will get you banned. Farming resources on your account and then mailing them to your friend for in-game gold or other virtual materials is not against the terms of service.

OK thank you, as I thought, was just checking. I need a job, thought why not something I enjoy but if it's against the rules I will find something else to do.

You could become an ESO Streamer, @mrsrobot.

It's hard to start out, sure.

But, after awhile, you could potentially build up a subscription base in the thousands if done right ...

It's not for everyone though.

Something I have considered, but I don't currently have the equipment but possibly in future. I'd like to have my own niche to do it and bring something new and fresh to the community but I have to figure out how.

EdmondDontes

Goregrinder wrote: »

Well we charge for Skyreach runs and to farm mats for other people so sure.

In game gold is not the same as real life gold. (not that there is any economy on the gold standard these days, but you get the point)

Hotdog_23

Probably against the rules but you can buy crowns for real money and sell those in game. With the difference being by taking direct payment you are cutting ZOS out of the loop for any money.

HawkFest

Hotdog_23 wrote: »

Probably against the rules but you can buy crowns for real money and sell those in game. With the difference being by taking direct payment you are cutting ZOS out of the loop for any money.

Since the crowns were bought with real money, ZOS is not out "of the loop": anything that's "in-game" and that you can buy with crowns (real money to acquire virtual and intangible stuff, or for in-game "gold"), actually has ZERO production value, as they can be duplicated infinitely in a couple of nanoseconds. Hence I don't see your point, or am I missing something?...