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Why are StamDKs weak?
Nerdrage9000
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As title suggests. I love my StamDK - can’t break 35k DPS. Why ZoS why???
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LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »StamDK is very powerful in PvP, so it's a trade-off I guess.
Why are sorcerers, wardens, necromancers so strong at both PvP and PvE? Where's the trade off?No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.7 -
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✭✭✭✭Berchelous wrote: »Because ZOS doesn't know that DK exists.
They know. They just don't care that DK exists.0 -
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✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »StamDK is very powerful in PvP, so it's a trade-off I guess.
Why are sorcerers, wardens, necromancers so strong at both PvP and PvE? Where's the trade off?
Wardens are not strong in PVE. That was like 3 patches ago.2 -
LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »StamDK is very powerful in PvP, so it's a trade-off I guess.
Why are sorcerers, wardens, necromancers so strong at both PvP and PvE? Where's the trade off?
Wardens are not strong in PVE. That was like 3 patches ago.
So what about sorcerers? I don't think anyone can deny that they're extremely good at both PvP and PvE. Look at the leaderboards. Trade off?No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.0 -
LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭Berchelous wrote: »Because ZOS doesn't know that DK exists.
They know. They just don't care that DK exists.
Yep they just don't care about the DK class. DKs may be good pve tanks but nothing else - period.Edited by LightYagami on October 20, 2020 11:00PMNo improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.0 -
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✭✭✭This game is known for terrible balance between classes and crazy power yoyo-ing and nerfs. Bo one can give you the reason you are looking for. It just is. I would love to have some fun playing my stam DK. Heck, I’d love to bring my stam warden to a recent vet trial. We all hold out hope and keep playing. But I’m not holding my breath.Edited by Pevey on October 20, 2020 11:04PM0 -
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✭✭What are you using your stamdk for? And what sets are you using? I pull around 75k on mine with the trial dummy, and use it for end game pve. Learning to weave light attacks, their timing etc, and keeping up your skills, should improve you massively, its all just time
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rrimöykk✭✭✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »StamDK is very powerful in PvP, so it's a trade-off I guess.
Why are sorcerers, wardens, necromancers so strong at both PvP and PvE? Where's the trade off?
Wardens are not strong in PVE. That was like 3 patches ago.
Hitting over 110k in pts when dk struggles to break 100k. Yeah, not strong at all. Only the second best pve class.2 -
LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »StamDK is very powerful in PvP, so it's a trade-off I guess.
Why are sorcerers, wardens, necromancers so strong at both PvP and PvE? Where's the trade off?
Wardens are not strong in PVE. That was like 3 patches ago.
Hitting over 110k in pts when dk struggles to break 100k. Yeah, not strong at all. Only the second best pve class.
Don't forget their netch. FREE clease every 5 seconds, together with FREE buff, FREE resources regeneration. ALL come with ONE SINGLE FREE skill.
Extremely overpowered in PvP.No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.5 -
Astrid✭✭✭✭✭Sorcerers also aren’t strong in PvE. They’re usually given to a support in raid scenario. Magblades and Magcros mainly. 0 -
LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭Sorcerers also aren’t strong in PvE. They’re usually given to a support in raid scenario. Magblades and Magcros mainly.
Sorcerers won't be anywhere close to "aren't strong". They are strong. At least much better than some continuously punished classes like DKs.No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.0 -
cheesefome✭✭✭Weak? Trust me dk's are far from weak. They are arguably at the top of the tier list if not the top. There are somme extremely well skilled players that steer the class like a god and its frustrating fighting these guys because often it feels like no matter what you do they murder you.1
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cheesefome✭✭✭People saying DK is weak dont know the class as well as they believe.Edited by cheesefome on October 21, 2020 1:32AM1
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LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭cheesefome wrote: »Weak? Trust me dk's are far from weak. They are arguably at the top of the tier list if not the top. There are somme extremely well skilled players that steer the class like a god and its frustrating fighting these guys because often it feels like no matter what you do they murder you.
Lmao DKs are at the top? Take a look at leaderboard scores by class, especially PvP. Top?????????No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.5 -
LightYagami✭✭✭✭✭cheesefome wrote: »People saying DK is weak dont know the class as well as they believe.
I guess I don't know DK well.
My Magdk earned flawless conqueror title at VMA, when I was pushing hard on PvE, I was on VMA leaderboard.
Then I switched to PvP and I'm one of the top scored DKs on 30 days Cyrodiil leaderboard now.
From my limited knowledge about DKs, especially magdks, they're weak compare with quite many classes. Some famous YouTubers also gave similar views.
According to your argument, I guess they don't know the class well, just like me.No improvement on Cyrodill servers -> no ESO plus renewal.4 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »StamDK is very powerful in PvP, so it's a trade-off I guess.
They are not. Easy win. Necros and wardens are much better.Nerdrage9000 wrote: »As title suggests. I love my StamDK - can’t break 35k DPS. Why ZoS why???
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I think wrong rotation and sets. I do 50 k dps on nord stam dk, that is really a tank, just play a little as dd on it for short period of time.
https://youtu.be/vYNNBb-X1AE
Not optimized just some fun build.Edited by ZOS_Lunar on October 21, 2020 12:32PM0 -
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✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »Donny_Vito wrote: »StamDK is very powerful in PvP, so it's a trade-off I guess.
Why are sorcerers, wardens, necromancers so strong at both PvP and PvE? Where's the trade off?
the trade off is that Templars get to say ' go get 'em guys ! '
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alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭There is 2 ways to go for pve if you want a dk dd, one is go magicka, but since you said stamina thats a mute point, but one way would be to go a high crit aoe build with one or 2 spamables, have new moon and leviathan as gear set and Velidreth, you should be able to pull in 30-50k on not a prime group set up in a dungeon or trial, on a prime set up group giving loads of buffs you should be able to do 60-100k dps depending on how good your rotation wasMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0
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cheesefome✭✭✭LightYagami wrote: »cheesefome wrote: »People saying DK is weak dont know the class as well as they believe.
I guess I don't know DK well.
My Magdk earned flawless conqueror title at VMA, when I was pushing hard on PvE, I was on VMA leaderboard.
Then I switched to PvP and I'm one of the top scored DKs on 30 days Cyrodiil leaderboard now.
From my limited knowledge about DKs, especially magdks, they're weak compare with quite many classes. Some famous YouTubers also gave similar views.
According to your argument, I guess they don't know the class well, just like me.
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Being top at ANY campaign has nothing to do with skill and moreso to do with activity. Don't think so mighty of that accomplishment because truthfully skill and high rankings at pvp campaigns have no correlation.
I too have been at top of rankings but I get hulk smash by players who aren't even on the boards. [snip].
Ofc they might not b the best but they are definitely up there. You may believe what you like but seriously, ive seen some absurd gameplay from DK's that ive fought in both BG's and IC. Those godly DK's exist whether you want to believe it or not and DK's are a LOT stronger than you perceive.
Not here to convince you otherwise I just think people in this threat are overexaggerating the viability of DK's.
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cheesefome✭✭✭The issue is not that DK's are weak, the issue is that wardens are overperforming and overoptimized. Any1 who isn't a warden is dealing with the same problem.0
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✭sTAm dK tOp pVP cLAsS
On command major mending.
Seriously stamdk is second weakest stam class before stamplar in any category, the only thing keeping it alive atm is syvarahs. Every good stamdk you encountered would be more potent on warden/sorc/necro if he keeps his skilllevel.class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling1
