Olupajmibanan wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »Olupajmibanan wrote: »1) Most magNBs prefer Swallow Soul over Ele Weapon or Force Pulse. Similar damage, self-heal on top of that and ultigen used to its maximum potential on top of top of that.
Surprise Attack is used by most if not all StamNBs.
2) A lot of magsorc recently started using Crystal Fragments as spammable over Ele weapon or Force Pulse. Try it yourself, it's really something.
The new Stamsorc spammable is not really good, the group utility it brings is too low. This one is better off using Rapid Strikes.
3) No magDK will pick Ele Weapon or Force Pulse over Whip.
Poor stamDK has to stick with clunky Poop Fist which is terrible but brings a lot of group utility so it's usualy prefered over Weapon spammables.
4) Templars are even out of question, Sweeps/Jabs all the way
5) stamWardens recently started with Birds to use the Bleed to it's maximum potential. Results seem to be more than satisfying.
Magwardens don't even use spammable, it's full dot-cycle rotation. But okay, if they unslot some of the dots sometimes, they replace these with Ele Weapon or Bird.
6) Magnecro is the same like magNB, Ricochet Skull is preferred over Ele Weapon or Force Pulse. It does more damage than both, when Engulfing Flames come into question, and the AoE portion just further strenghtens the preference of Skull.
Stamnecro's skull is terrible so he is stuck with weapon spammables.
So, out of 12 specs and classes I counted only 1-3 which really prefer generic spammable over its class spammable. That doesn't seem like class spammables are terrible.
Still doesn't mean that they dont need to be improved. Warden's doesn't even work with the class's design.
I agree, but so are many other things in this game. I've only shown that there is no strong preference of generic spammables over class ones, meaning that general global changes to class spammables (I assume you refer to that type of change) should be on low priority.
But individual class spammables which are completely overshadowed by generic spammables should be looked at. This includes Venom Skull, Screaming Cliff Racer and Crystal Weapon. And of course, Poop fist, this one needs to be reworked (again) and really soon. Popularity of stamDK dropped significantly since introduction of new Stone Giant.
lucky_Sage wrote: »If a Magdk in pvp is using molten whip it is not a spammable. Engulfing flames is more spammable but not much of one how there class plays and has to burst people don’t have really one not often I use whip multi times.
Not precisely true.
Whenever I have my DoTs stacked and I'm focusing on one target I definitely spam whip, especially when they're low health, sure, I wait until the right moment to apply this pressure, but spamming it most definitely happens and is most definitely better than engulfing spam.
Engulfing spam is for if someone is trying to dodge roll away and you need AoE pressure.