Dye Stamps > gripe <

Qutlaw

So, I've returned to play ESO after a long absence and trying my best to learn the game. I have tried to research this issue, about dye stamps, and my question is now a gripe. Or, someone can correct me if I am wrong.

I leveled up, and received, as one of my level-up rewards, this dye stamp.
As I understand it, I can't use it to unlock the colors in the dye stamp, I can't bank it, and if I use it then it is gone.
Why?

Character bag space is a finite resource. Why can't I add it to my collections? Or use it to unlock the dyes?
The colors are not bad, but they are placed in such a way that any costume I preview it on look horrid (imho).
Why can't I move the colors around? I am ESO+ and would love to use one or maybe two of the colors. But the placement of one of the colors makes it entirely unusable.
I can't really save it for later, unless I want one precious bag slot to be forever holding this thing.
Why can't it go into some system that makes it available to only this character, but not take up space?
If I dye a costume, and "deal with it" then I'd have to BUY a new costume slot to "save" it.

The prices on the crown store, in many cases are a huge disappointment (an argument for another post someday) and I would never -ever- buy a dye stamp with crowns.
I buy crates and get way too many useless items in this gambling rip-off just for the "chance" to get what I want.

When I first started, I took my chances and subbed for 6 months, bought some crowns (twice) and tried their system, just to get ONE item I wanted.
I figured, I'd like to support the game, and make ESO my primary game for my twitch channel. So why not buy some crates? There was a mount I wanted, and I do "collect" mounts and pets in other games. And I like the customizations (well, a few... not all, that's for sure) - but I was dismayed to find out how much gambling was involved, and now have lots of dyes I will never use, face and body tattoos that look horrible, nearly 1000 poisons, potions and mimic stones I will rarely.. if-ever.. use.
After $200 I left ESO-Vegas vowing never to return.

So, about this dye stamp (I sort of rambled on a bit there). If I can't add it to my "collections" and I can't bank it, and I do not like the way the dye-channels were designed, am I safe to assume I should just delete it now?

Or am I missing something?

Go ahead, attack me... but be constructive while having a laugh about my naiveite, and tell me about this dye-stamp load of bull at least.

Qutlaw (Orrin)

UntilValhalla13

I delete every dye stamp that I get. They're usually pretty bad, and just get in the way.

BoraxFlux

There is a function in Pacrooti's window to exchange the items you don't want for gems, with enough gems you can 'buy' most items of your choice except radiant apex mounts.

EDIT : only the dyes you reveived via crown crates, not the leveling rewards.

Qutlaw

UntilValhalla13 wrote: »

I delete every dye stamp that I get. They're usually pretty bad, and just get in the way.

Good advice, I was worried that would be the answer... but good advice, I agree.
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@Boraxflux
Yeah, I got so many worthless items when I made the mistake of paying for all those crates, but the gems you get for most of those items barely add up. I honestly feel ripped off with the exchange rate of items with the gems you get. Proof that even THEY know the items that are awarded from the crates are worthless. To make matters worse, the "decent" items you can "buy" with crown gems are extremely over-priced. Like I said, gambling is a horrible way to treat your customers, and that system of "open this crate for real money, give them a worthless item, let them exchange it for a horrible low gem value, then charge them out the nose for the item we know they want" is (in my opinion), atrocious. The "dye-stamp" system is an added slap in the face, especially when you can't save it for later, and if you do, it will take up a slot you have to pay for in your inventory.

Uhg.

Thanks for the answers!

Malkiv

New players without any achievement dye unlocks are the target audience for the dye stamps. They're just a stop-gap, and not meant to be used as a complete solution for color customization - that's clear from the limited scope of the item. Being able to rearrange the colors to any slots you want would invalidate the design of the dye unlock system, and as such, you're encouraged to unlock the dyes through achievements if you want the full breadth of color customization.

Qutlaw

Malkiv wrote: »

New players without any achievement dye unlocks are the target audience for the dye stamps. They're just a stop-gap, and not meant to be used as a complete solution for color customization - that's clear from the limited scope of the item. Being able to rearrange the colors to any slots you want would invalidate the design of the dye unlock system, and as such, you're encouraged to unlock the dyes through achievements if you want the full breadth of color customization.

Yeah, I get that. But I still maintain that the dye stamps as a quest reward (maybe) - but the way they work, taking up space, and being unable to USE the unlocked dyes to replace part of the stamp is awful. Being a gambling for real money item is also underhanded and awful. Nothing will change my mind about that, but yeah, I get what you mean.

Still, an awful system.

Fischblut

I also don't like bad implementation of dye stamps, especially with certain exclusive colors. They usually return to the store during certain holidays. Those colors are so vibrant and beautiful! I would love to have them in my collection But only as permanent color unlock, which - after purchase - could be freely used to dye any channel of costumes and outfits, just like all colors which we unlock in game

I think those dye stamps all cost 200 crowns. I would gladly buy exclusive color for 200 crowns per each, if they could be permanently added to my dyes

Linaleah

Qutlaw wrote: »

Malkiv wrote: »

New players without any achievement dye unlocks are the target audience for the dye stamps. They're just a stop-gap, and not meant to be used as a complete solution for color customization - that's clear from the limited scope of the item. Being able to rearrange the colors to any slots you want would invalidate the design of the dye unlock system, and as such, you're encouraged to unlock the dyes through achievements if you want the full breadth of color customization.

Yeah, I get that. But I still maintain that the dye stamps as a quest reward (maybe) - but the way they work, taking up space, and being unable to USE the unlocked dyes to replace part of the stamp is awful. Being a gambling for real money item is also underhanded and awful. Nothing will change my mind about that, but yeah, I get what you mean.

Still, an awful system.

you CAN replace parts of the stamp.

you apply the stamp to the outfit, which consumes the stamp and then you replace the dyes you don't like on that outfit, with one or more of the dyes you have unlocked. it doesn't let you move the colors of the stamp and its only for one outfit, but you CAN customize it to a degree. I've also done that with crown bought dyes (for a specific character that I wanted to have sickeningly pink dress, but none of the unlockable dyes looked pink enough, so I bought a stamp during valentines day promo and just modified 2 of the channels, keeping main as that crown pink - I've also done that with the green/red/something monstrosity that you get from level up rewards)