Torn between free house & collecting all the motifs?

daemondamian

TLDR: if you focus on antiquities, you miss out on collecting the motifs & style pages.

I really want the free house & have been doing antiquities on my alt healer character to lvl up his skill line to the max (for the treasure chest perk skill) as I've already done so on my main pet sorc.

Fortunately I had some purple leads thst got him to gold leads & have been doing ones that are easy to get via just killing WB or PD bosses.

Once he's done I have 11 other characters to max the skill line on but I feel like I'm wasting the opportunity to collect all the motifs you can get doing the Solitude dailies (13 char x 3 dailes x 2 reward boxes plus the strongboxes).

Anyone else struggling with this decision & what did you decide to do?

redspecter23

ZOS sets the goal that we need to achieve. It would be a pretty lousy move to set the goal, not tell us the goal, then later on, tell us we didn't achieve it (when any one individual has no control over it). Then sell us those same rewards later that they told us we could have won if we only tried harder (even though we didn't know the goal at all).

I'm fairly certain we will all earn the house and guest. The alternative would have too much negative impact.

SydneyGrey

Pevey wrote: »

We all will get the house. It is a given. Go get your style pages.

You have no idea. I wish people would stop spreading this stupid rumor, because it just makes fewer people participate, then we really WON'T get the house. Do you seriously think ZOS will just hand it to us if nobody participates?

ShawnLaRock

I only need Sovngarde Arm Cops, and 85 Greymoor Chests to have both books complete - and it’s only like, the 3rd day - and I haven’t even farmed beyond doing the dailies on 2 characters.

I want them out of the way, so I can PUG Life Kyne’s Aegis for 86 Sea Giant pages for the rest of the event.

PS - 82 & 83 are also proving to be challenging, as well.

S.

Banana

Motifs. To many termites where I live

Aptonoth

I only have two more to get then I'm swapping to full treasure hunt mode. I seem to be getting one motif a day.

Hallothiel

@SydneyGrey

Yeah, I got ‘told off’ on another thread for daring to question this, as apparently this stressed people out who were digging, and they shouldn’t be as apparently the house is basically given already.

It does not say we will automatically get these rewards, it says we’ll get them WHEN UNLOCKED. Then IF we have unlocked them (by digging enough) they will be available in the Crown store for free.

And yes, this is a marketing ploy, obviously, but am tired of people who say this means that they can’t be bothered with this & we’ll still get the house. Not much to dig a bit every day so all can benefit. 😕

Sylvermynx

Well, I don't care two pins about the dailies and style pages, so I'm digging my little heart out!

Sarannah

markulrich1966 wrote: »

After the community has unlocked all three rewards (or the time runs out), all Greymoor players can claim the unlocked items from the in-game Crown Store for free."

Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/58773

Actually, you didn't read it right. It says "after the community has unlocked all three rewards" OR "the time runs out". Meaning it is possible to run out of time with below three rewards. So the house is NOT a given!

Now it is a whole other discussion on if ZOS would make such a promotion and not give the house away, or if the whole thing itself is rigged. But as it states, we can run out of time with less than three rewards!

PS: The motif pages will be really cheap on the guild traders, as usual when there's an event that gives them.

Kiralyn2000

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail. And yeah, I firmly believe that they've got pre-determined milestones to advance the progress bar to if the community doesn't exceed them.

But that's not an arguement for "don't bother doing any Antiquities, it's guaranteed". It's an argument for "just do some while going for your other goals, that'll be enough" and "don't live an utterly unhealthy lifestyle and Grind 18 Hours A Day Every Day, because that kind of absurdity is totally unnecessary."

Old_Foggy

With 38% done at the latest update, i'd say we will reach 100% way before the 5th, but i'm afraid if i dig many more holes in Skyrim it's going to cave in. I'm sure with all my digging it's got more holes than a tramps string vest now

Arciris

For my part, since the beginning of the event, i've done about 8 hours of digging. Arteum is at risk of vanishing from so much digging
I've also done my dailies, on 3/4 chars, maybe 2 sets of quests each and it's enough to get a lot of goodies.

So those are not mutually exclusive.

colossalvoids

It's a promotion so people would buy the chapter to get the house like previous time, so get your motifs for sure if you need it.

Elvenheart

I’ve dug so many holes in Artaeum since the release of antiquities that I’ve been banned from the island by the Psijic Order for awhile. They said I’ve dug up too many Faded Psijic Folios and there aren’t that many left for other people to find, and they need time to bury some more. They’re not too worried about the availability of Warped Scrying Dippers, though.

(P.S. Everyone knew that each night the Psijics bury more folios and dippers for people to dig up, right? It’s a major source of tourism for their little island. They love seeing all the people running around thinking they are finding “lost” antiquities. They watch us from their tower and we provide an endless source of entertainment for them. Life on the island used to be so boring 🏝)

Toanis

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

We all will get the house. It is a given. Go get your style pages.

You have no idea. I wish people would stop spreading this stupid rumor, because it just makes fewer people participate, then we really WON'T get the house. Do you seriously think ZOS will just hand it to us if nobody participates?

Can you imagine the press if ZOS has to admit that they failed to motivate their players to participate in an event promoting the latest expansion?

If it wasn't rigged, ZOS would have done something to make digging interesting, like making all the blue and purple treasures available again, or adding new event-leads. Most of us who got Greymoor on release already dug up all treasures and the items they care about. Summerset was "explore the expansion zone " Elseweyr was "kill dragons in our latest expansion" Greymoor is "go somewhere and dig up green treasures". Even if there is a goal, it wont be set very high.

DigitalHype

Toanis wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

We all will get the house. It is a given. Go get your style pages.

You have no idea. I wish people would stop spreading this stupid rumor, because it just makes fewer people participate, then we really WON'T get the house. Do you seriously think ZOS will just hand it to us if nobody participates?

Can you imagine the press if ZOS has to admit that they failed to motivate their players to participate in an event promoting the latest expansion?

If it wasn't rigged, ZOS would have done something to make digging interesting, like making all the blue and purple treasures available again, or adding new event-leads. Most of us who got Greymoor on release already dug up all treasures and the items they care about. Summerset was "explore the expansion zone " Elseweyr was "kill dragons in our latest expansion" Greymoor is "go somewhere and dig up green treasures". Even if there is a goal, it wont be set very high.

The purpose of the event isn't to get players to dig antiquities. It's to get people to purchase the Greymoor DLC, so they don't miss out on the house.

DreamsUnderStars

daemondamian wrote: »

TLDR: if you focus on antiquities, you miss out on collecting the motifs & style pages.

I don't see how, if you do the three dailies and then go dig up stuff, I don't see how you will miss out on your style pages.

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And the purpose of the event is to get people to work together for a communal goal... getting people to hopefully buy the expansion is a side benefit for ZOS.

JKorr

markulrich1966 wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

We all will get the house. It is a given. Go get your style pages.

You have no idea. I wish people would stop spreading this stupid rumor, because it just makes fewer people participate, then we really WON'T get the house. Do you seriously think ZOS will just hand it to us if nobody participates?

with all respect, but actually it is you spreading rumors.

The official announcement is pretty clear:

"The faster you dig, the faster the reward will be unlocked!

After the community has unlocked all three rewards (or the time runs out), all Greymoor players can claim the unlocked items from the in-game Crown Store for free."

Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/58773

So, reading that again....

All Greymoor players can claim the unlocked items from the crown store for free.

Where does it say the rewards that are NOT unlocked will be available? If the players manage to to unlock all the items before the time runs out, all the items are unlocked. If players DO NOT manage to unlock the items, they will not be unlocked.

So you're claiming that, whether or not players manage to unlock the items, everyone is going to get everything anyway? I do want a source for that one, because the source you cited doesn't say that.

PizzaCat82

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

daemondamian wrote: »

TLDR: if you focus on antiquities, you miss out on collecting the motifs & style pages.

I don't see how, if you do the three dailies and then go dig up stuff, I don't see how you will miss out on your style pages.

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And the purpose of the event is to get people to work together for a communal goal... getting people to hopefully buy the expansion is a side benefit for ZOS.

As someone who has done nothing but dailies on 15 characters a day since Tuesday I still don't have all the style pages.
That's 60 dialies, with probably 75 regular boxes and 3 fancy boxes.

I can only imagine someone doing them on 1 character a day.

Saucy_Jack

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail.

This is something I don't understand. If a goal's been set, and whether the goal is reached or not is determined 100% by the players, and the players don't reach the goal, why would ZOS get dinged for that?

DreamsUnderStars

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail.

This is something I don't understand. If a goal's been set, and whether the goal is reached or not is determined 100% by the players, and the players don't reach the goal, why would ZOS get dinged for that?

They're betting on the event being rigged to fail, why ZOS would (supposedly) rig an event to fail is beyond my understanding though. This isn't a carnie event at a state faire.

Toanis

Seems like some of you missed the text hidden between the lines in the event page. It says:
"Slackers! Don't wait until Greymoor is included in ESO plus. Buy it now for 50% off and get a new house for free."

Source: The same source that told me that Santa Claus is just some dude who's stacking the shelves the rest of the year.

vuwuv

They are aiming to increase Greymoor sales. And people who bought the chapter just to have that free house will be rather disappointed if the community challenge fails. So there should be no way.

PizzaCat82

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail.

This is something I don't understand. If a goal's been set, and whether the goal is reached or not is determined 100% by the players, and the players don't reach the goal, why would ZOS get dinged for that?

The goal being reached or not is determined 75% on how hard that goal is and 25% on how hard the players feel like working to reach it.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail.

This is something I don't understand. If a goal's been set, and whether the goal is reached or not is determined 100% by the players, and the players don't reach the goal, why would ZOS get dinged for that?

They're betting on the event being rigged to fail, why ZOS would (supposedly) rig an event to fail is beyond my understanding though. This isn't a carnie event at a state faire.

I always feel like they want to see it fail and when it inevitably doesn't because the full in game community is actually really good then they say its because ZOS wouldn't let it fail. I don't get people sometimes lol.

LadyNalcarya

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail. And yeah, I firmly believe that they've got pre-determined milestones to advance the progress bar to if the community doesn't exceed them.

But that's not an arguement for "don't bother doing any Antiquities, it's guaranteed". It's an argument for "just do some while going for your other goals, that'll be enough" and "don't live an utterly unhealthy lifestyle and Grind 18 Hours A Day Every Day, because that kind of absurdity is totally unnecessary."

Yeah, I think balanced approach is the best. I've been too lazy to dig up my leads lately so I just decided to use all of them for the event (+I got some motif leads from treasure maps). If the event is not rigged, I don't think they would set unrealistic goals - after all, they have access to player stats and can see what would be reasonably achievable.

Chilly-McFreeze

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail.

This is something I don't understand. If a goal's been set, and whether the goal is reached or not is determined 100% by the players, and the players don't reach the goal, why would ZOS get dinged for that?

Because they had to admit they are losing player interest or fail to motivate. How would that go in the press?
Of course it's rigged or at least whitewashed like most press statements. Think about their praises about pvp experience, class identity or (how many was it?) 10 million registered accounts (totally ignoring how many where inactive). Don't fool yourself, zeni will not put themselves in a bad light.

markulrich1966

JKorr wrote: »

markulrich1966 wrote: »

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Pevey wrote: »

We all will get the house. It is a given. Go get your style pages.

You have no idea. I wish people would stop spreading this stupid rumor, because it just makes fewer people participate, then we really WON'T get the house. Do you seriously think ZOS will just hand it to us if nobody participates?

with all respect, but actually it is you spreading rumors.

The official announcement is pretty clear:

"The faster you dig, the faster the reward will be unlocked!

After the community has unlocked all three rewards (or the time runs out), all Greymoor players can claim the unlocked items from the in-game Crown Store for free."

Source: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/58773

So, reading that again....

All Greymoor players can claim the unlocked items from the crown store for free.

Where does it say the rewards that are NOT unlocked will be available? If the players manage to to unlock all the items before the time runs out, all the items are unlocked. If players DO NOT manage to unlock the items, they will not be unlocked.

So you're claiming that, whether or not players manage to unlock the items, everyone is going to get everything anyway? I do want a source for that one, because the source you cited doesn't say that.

guess you are right.
I was too focussed on the part that says scrying makes it faster.

Now at 38% already, and another weekend left, so I guess there is enough buffer that people can focus on stylepages.

amapola76

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail. And yeah, I firmly believe that they've got pre-determined milestones to advance the progress bar to if the community doesn't exceed them.

But that's not an arguement for "don't bother doing any Antiquities, it's guaranteed". It's an argument for "just do some while going for your other goals, that'll be enough" and "don't live an utterly unhealthy lifestyle and Grind 18 Hours A Day Every Day, because that kind of absurdity is totally unnecessary."

Exactly. No one is saying blow it off and don't do antiquities at all. But it's not that hard to pick up your dailies, scry, hit a harrowstorm, pop by your digsite on the way, and if you've got time, scry again and maybe hit another daily. It takes 30 minutes to do all that (assuming the lag isn't terrible, which is a whole other story)... if a million or so people dig once or twice each per day, yes, I really do believe we will hit the mysterious goal.

amapola76

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

DreamsUnderStars wrote: »

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail.

This is something I don't understand. If a goal's been set, and whether the goal is reached or not is determined 100% by the players, and the players don't reach the goal, why would ZOS get dinged for that?

They're betting on the event being rigged to fail, why ZOS would (supposedly) rig an event to fail is beyond my understanding though. This isn't a carnie event at a state faire.

I always feel like they want to see it fail

This makes zero sense.

Kiralyn2000

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

It would be terrible PR for the event to fail.

This is something I don't understand. If a goal's been set, and whether the goal is reached or not is determined 100% by the players, and the players don't reach the goal, why would ZOS get dinged for that?

1) demoralizing to the playerbase, especially the ones who bought the expansion because of the contest (which is the opposite result for an event that's supposed to stir participation), and

2) bad visuals for the company - "you held a celebration of your game/expansion, and no one cared enough to show up"


edit - and re: "if a goal's been set". Why do you think the goal is a vague "% completed", rather than a clearly defined "dig up 1million artifacts"? So it can be fudged.