PVP being forced onto players

manwoodsal

I want to know why they much think they need to force more PVP onto players in this game. Come up with a new system that taken the transmutes crystals. and the only quickest way to get them is in PVP.. Do they not have the players to do the PVP.. Or they just want to push other players into it so that the others have someone to kill and kept them happy.

manwoodsal

I don't like PVP much at all. And also even hate being force into it myself.

Jaimeh

They said they will add more ways to get crystals from pve...

Daemons_Bane

Did you not hear about them wanting to get more ways brought to the PvE crowd.?

scorpius2k1

manwoodsal wrote: »

I want to know why they much think they need to force more PVP onto players in this game. Come up with a new system that taken the transmutes crystals. and the only quickest way to get them is in PVP.. Do they not have the players to do the PVP.. Or they just want to push other players into it so that the others have someone to kill and kept them happy.

After the twitch stream announcements today for the upcoming update 28 in November, there are a lot of changes coming to transmutes which might alleviate all of your woes. Let's see what they have in store for us.

JamieAubrey

Why am I forced to PVE ?

hakan

here we go. same threads again. with this logic they shouldnt give anything for pvpers. the audacity of some people...

manwoodsal

Yes I did hear about them saying that we maybe can get more of them. But it wouldn't like be what you can get in doing PVP.

Daemons_Bane

manwoodsal wrote: »

Yes I did hear about them saying that we maybe can get more of them. But it wouldn't like be what you can get in doing PVP.

You have no idea about that yet, as they don't even know themselves yet.. so calm down

scorpius2k1

So basically, Zenimax should develop a completely impossible system concept that caters to each and every single player's personal preference, want, and need because they don't like something? OK then.

🙄

Next topic, please.

Iselin

I don't think you know what "forced" means.

ayu_fever

i despise pvp in all forms, but even i can deal with suffering for about 30 minutes in cyrodiil with my 2 healers to get 25k AP.
i get wrecked constantly and i do not care one bit.
i spam heals and capture something.
its literally a non issue doing this every month.

if the new pve ways are more rewarding and more efficient, i will never go to cyrodiil ever again, and i would prefer that.

(at least cyro will run better with no pve carebears in there)

Strider__Roshin

I'd gladly trade the amount PvE that is forced onto PvPers for the amount of PvP forced onto PvEers.

idk

manwoodsal wrote: »

I want to know why they much think they need to force more PVP onto players in this game. Come up with a new system that taken the transmutes crystals. and the only quickest way to get them is in PVP.. Do they not have the players to do the PVP.. Or they just want to push other players into it so that the others have someone to kill and kept them happy.

The title says Zos is forcing PvP onto players, meaning there is no way to avoid it yet the OP quoted here does not speak to how we are being forced into PvP for crystals, but merely that PvP is the more efficient way to get crystals.

manwoodsal wrote: »

I don't like PVP much at all. And also even hate being force into it myself.

Please explain how we are forced to do PvP for crystals?

TineaCruris

manwoodsal wrote: »

I want to know why they much think they need to force more PVP onto players in this game. Come up with a new system that taken the transmutes crystals. and the only quickest way to get them is in PVP.. Do they not have the players to do the PVP.. Or they just want to push other players into it so that the others have someone to kill and kept them happy.

I never understood why people play an MMO if they don't want to PvP. Why play a game with thousands of other players logged on at the same time if you don't want to fight them and only fight computer generated pixels.

Jpk0012

manwoodsal wrote: »

I don't like PVP much at all. And also even hate being force into it myself.

Please explain how we are forced to do PvP for crystals?

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I get anywhere from 3-8 crystals per BG. I get 1-2 from PvE.

Not sure if that is what OP is talking about, or something else.

Ufretin

Why do ZOS force me to play the game to earn XP and gold? Not fair!!!

Crow_IX

manwoodsal wrote: »

I want to know why they much think they need to force more PVP onto players in this game. Come up with a new system that taken the transmutes crystals. and the only quickest way to get them is in PVP.. Do they not have the players to do the PVP.. Or they just want to push other players into it so that the others have someone to kill and kept them happy.

pvp is never forced on anyone. in fact its the lower end of population of the game and pvpers get neglected in terms of balancing and performance. if you want transmutes there are tons of things you can do like dailies and such. plus if you want 50 free transmutes then its super easy to get tier 3 rewards in a single day and not touch pvp til the next month, per character might i add. so idk why youre worried or complaining about pvp. youre not forced to pvp by any means.

Pauwer

If you run pledges everyday, you get the same amount as one day's rewards for the worthy, right? And the 50 crystal geode is soooo easy to get from end of campaing rewards that it's crazy. Just lfg or fix some walls. Or... start playing pvp, it's great. We want you. Uncle uummh Sheo wants you.

CowNRB

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Why am I forced to PVE ?

So true. wish some people would understand that everyone is "forced" todo something they don't want to do. which is more true to the pvp crowd as mostly everything they need for pvp comes from pve

Akinos

Forced, lol, not like ZOS put a gun to your head and told you to pvp or else. Sheesh.

Xebov

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Why am I forced to PVE ?

Because the main part of ESO is PvE mit story and dungeons. Thats the main selling point and thats what the game is designed around. PvP is just an extra on top.

TineaCruris wrote: »

manwoodsal wrote: »

I want to know why they much think they need to force more PVP onto players in this game. Come up with a new system that taken the transmutes crystals. and the only quickest way to get them is in PVP.. Do they not have the players to do the PVP.. Or they just want to push other players into it so that the others have someone to kill and kept them happy.

I never understood why people play an MMO if they don't want to PvP. Why play a game with thousands of other players logged on at the same time if you don't want to fight them and only fight computer generated pixels.

MMOs are for the most part about a community and RPG elements. That does not explicitely include or exclude PvP. In most cases PvP is just an extra, if it even exists in the first place. In the end its a matter of taste and personality.

AcadianPaladin

I don't feel forced to PvP at all. For PvE, rapids is not necessary but for stam players, vigor can be handy - simply doing the Cyrodiil tutorial basically now gets you there. When I want transmute crystal I solo the simpler alliance zone pledges on normal. No problem. Though I'm a solo PvE player, I have no problem with the game having group content and PvP as well. There is plenty for all and I'm not forced into anything to still very much enjoy the game.

Note: I'm not endorsing or complaining about the move to swap rapids and vigor but simply making a point. I don't really care where either skill fits in the tree.

StaticWave

Another entitled pve thread

StaticWave

manwoodsal wrote: »

I want to know why they much think they need to force more PVP onto players in this game. Come up with a new system that taken the transmutes crystals. and the only quickest way to get them is in PVP.. Do they not have the players to do the PVP.. Or they just want to push other players into it so that the others have someone to kill and kept them happy.

Go do vma. It gives you 4 crystals per run. Do trials and get 5 per run. Or do random daily dungeons and get 1 x whatever amount of characters you have.

Sanguinor2

Just find 11 people that dont want to PvP either, go into nCR+3 and nAS+2 on 5 chars peer week, clear them in 2/3 minutes there you go 50 transmutes a week in less than 30 minutes.

mandricus

Xebov wrote: »

Because the main part of ESO is PvE mit story and dungeons. Thats the main selling point and thats what the game is designed around. PvP is just an extra on top.

You know nothing about this game. Read Matt Firor's story, then try again.

Thechuckage

mandricus wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

Because the main part of ESO is PvE mit story and dungeons. Thats the main selling point and thats what the game is designed around. PvP is just an extra on top.

You know nothing about this game. Read Matt Firor's story, then try again.

Game direction can be changed overtime. Current ESO is worlds apart from beta. PvP is no longer the main focus.

Pauwer

But i guarantee you, a good pvp fight will give you way more kicks than some trial boss fight. I will eat your shorts if it isn't so.

Taleof2Cities

Thechuckage wrote: »

mandricus wrote: »

Xebov wrote: »

Because the main part of ESO is PvE mit story and dungeons. Thats the main selling point and thats what the game is designed around. PvP is just an extra on top.

You know nothing about this game. Read Matt Firor's story, then try again.

Game direction can be changed overtime. Current ESO is worlds apart from beta. PvP is no longer the main focus.

There's a difference between opinion and fact ...

AlnilamE

You don't have to PvP at all. Just work on your pledges and on completing the gear sets you are trying to work on and you will have enough stones (at the lowest cost, an item will cost 25 transmute stones to craft).

Also, unless you plan on just deconning everything including what you are wearing, you probably won't need to do anything for a while.

This system is mainly to get those "I want to try this some day" sets out of our inventory.