Cyrolag even during AOE cooldowns?

scottii

so uh. what we gone do boys?

Banana

Pve

MCBIZZLE300

Haha I was just thinking the same after rage quitting cyro.

Joy_Division

Nothing in the past 6 years of ESO led me to believe these tests would alter the lag in Cyrodiil.

gatekeeper13

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

scottii

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

@ZOS_GinaBruno solid information here.

Starlight_Whisper

Remember the deer .... I seriously have my doubts that there will be improvements

Gorreck

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Basically this.

Davor

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Please explain how upgrading the servers will help. Since Amazon is running the servers how can Zenimax upgrade them? Are you saying that Zenimax bought the lower servers and there are better tier servers to use but Zenimax doesn't want to pay for it?

If not please explain, I just don't get it since it's a third party that runs the servers.

gatekeeper13

Davor wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Please explain how upgrading the servers will help. Since Amazon is running the servers how can Zenimax upgrade them? Are you saying that Zenimax bought the lower servers and there are better tier servers to use but Zenimax doesn't want to pay for it?

If not please explain, I just don't get it since it's a third party that runs the servers.

By upgrading servers I mean they should buy more server capacity from the company that owns the servers used by ZOS. (talking about EU server)

Perfect example is the last MYM event. With 100% player activity 24/7, Cyro server worked way smoother than it did with 30% of population after the event ended. I bet that ZOS bought extra capacity or whatever else needed for the duration of the event. But this is sth that costs a lot of money and to lower costs, they try to reduce server load through tweaks.

TineaCruris

It seems like keeping track of all the cool downs is overworking the servers. I'm being serious with this comment. I'm not trolling.

TineaCruris

Davor wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Please explain how upgrading the servers will help. Since Amazon is running the servers how can Zenimax upgrade them? Are you saying that Zenimax bought the lower servers and there are better tier servers to use but Zenimax doesn't want to pay for it?

If not please explain, I just don't get it since it's a third party that runs the servers.

servers are leased. They lease more and/or better servers. That's all that has to be done. We know they have the monthly income to afford it easily.

Ackwalan

There was noticeable less lag during test 1 then before testing. During test 2 there is less lag then during no test, but more lag then during test 1. The outlier is the ball groups. During test 1 the ball were not there, but they have returned during test 2. While there have been fewer population locked hours during both tests, during the large population locked zerg fights the lag seemed to be about the same until a ball group would sow up.

This was just my personal experience as some that plays a mix of solo and medium (10-15) sized groups.

TineaCruris

Ackwalan wrote: »

There was noticeable less lag during test 1 then before testing. During test 2 there is less lag then during no test, but more lag then during test 1. The outlier is the ball groups. During test 1 the ball were not there, but they have returned during test 2. While there have been fewer population locked hours during both tests, during the large population locked zerg fights the lag seemed to be about the same until a ball group would sow up.

This was just my personal experience as some that plays a mix of solo and medium (10-15) sized groups.

During test one vast majority were in IC or refused to even try to play with 3 second cool down on everything if you use one skill.

Test 2 is seeing roughly normal populations.....but even more lag somehow.

scottii

Davor wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Please explain how upgrading the servers will help. Since Amazon is running the servers how can Zenimax upgrade them? Are you saying that Zenimax bought the lower servers and there are better tier servers to use but Zenimax doesn't want to pay for it?

If not please explain, I just don't get it since it's a third party that runs the servers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but ESO uses Akami as their servers, not Amazon (AWS). From what I remember, there was a change to the servers at Akami almost one year ago. Prior to the change, the performance wasn't the best, but much more tolerable than they have been since the change.

FENGRUSH

scottii wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Please explain how upgrading the servers will help. Since Amazon is running the servers how can Zenimax upgrade them? Are you saying that Zenimax bought the lower servers and there are better tier servers to use but Zenimax doesn't want to pay for it?

If not please explain, I just don't get it since it's a third party that runs the servers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but ESO uses Akami as their servers, not Amazon (AWS). From what I remember, there was a change to the servers at Akami almost one year ago. Prior to the change, the performance wasn't the best, but much more tolerable than they have been since the change.

That's not what akamai does. Blaming akamai is people finding a name and screaming at it.

scottii

FENGRUSH wrote: »

scottii wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Please explain how upgrading the servers will help. Since Amazon is running the servers how can Zenimax upgrade them? Are you saying that Zenimax bought the lower servers and there are better tier servers to use but Zenimax doesn't want to pay for it?

If not please explain, I just don't get it since it's a third party that runs the servers.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but ESO uses Akami as their servers, not Amazon (AWS). From what I remember, there was a change to the servers at Akami almost one year ago. Prior to the change, the performance wasn't the best, but much more tolerable than they have been since the change.

That's not what akamai does. Blaming akamai is people finding a name and screaming at it.

Then enlighten us with a more technical response. I cannot find any information other than ESO using Akamai.

FENGRUSH

Akamai is a content delivery network. They handle network traffic. So they dont run and manage MMO servers. Theres a possibility that there could be issues tied up with ZOS' network policies through akamai, but that would be for ZOS to identify and solution through akamai. The servers they wouldnt manage though.

Akamai is used as a layer to protect and assist speeding up traffic around the globe. If you google something from austalia, akamai would assist in sending you in through the quickest route as they have thousands around the world. That's why if you google a big brand anywhere in the world it should load resources near instantly as these resources are preloaded on akamai side. These are also in place to protect from DDOS. If a company takes a DDOS attack on from around the world, akamai would distribute the attack and mitigate at thousands of different points to mitigate, while then proactively blocking the attack.

All in all they do cool stuff and are a very capable company. Blaming them wouldnt do anything. Even if something they were doing was cause for lag, itd be on ZOS to engage them for a solution.

Luckylancer

Davor wrote: »

gatekeeper13 wrote: »

Cyro lag will never go away unless servers are upgraded. Three years and 50 patches later, we will still be here complaining about lag.

I was so annoyed from lag today I left Cyro and did some trials and test parses with my magsorc.

Please explain how upgrading the servers will help. Since Amazon is running the servers how can Zenimax upgrade them? Are you saying that Zenimax bought the lower servers and there are better tier servers to use but Zenimax doesn't want to pay for it?

If not please explain, I just don't get it since it's a third party that runs the servers.

Is there only one option, one price? It is clear servers cant take this load and there is always a better that cost more.

They dont hire the better one because they can still earn money from complaining but paying players.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Here is the test I want to see done. Define "ally" from any skill tooltip as a group member. Limit groups to 4 members. Go.

The fact that I can be in a group of 1, below 25% health, cast rapid regen, and watch it go to a full health pug not in my party (as my party is just me) at max range is everything you need to know about their coding issues.