Templar is truly the original necro. How many templar skills are on your bar? Name them.

LuxLunae

EDIT: I forgot to mention, Ultis don't count as skills.

Ok first I want to know,

1. How much class skills do you use
2. How useful are those class skills
3. Do you feel identity

Now I realize I MIGHT BE THE OUTLIER HERE !!

1. I use at max jabs cleanse and rune.
2. Jabs is the only useful skill, cleanse is worthless but others can use it to cleanse rune is worthless as I am not going to stand in a small circle like that guy from Witcher 3 DLC
3. Since I am changing to using Flurry and Mighty Chudan, 2 templar skills have become utterly worthless. Cleanse I shouldnt even bother with. Nobody is using DOT nowadays to kill and by the time I switch my bar and hit the cleanse the Sorc has already blown me to bits...

So in a sense I am leaning towards being a no class bar templar as it might become more efficient than you know.. actually using the class skills....

Speaking on the stamplar side...

Danksta

Imagine thinking you need to stand in the rune to get your resistance buffs and resource return.

technohic

5 skills (you a lie or just trying out the class)

Right now, 5 on my PvP stamplar. Its not bad. I am not trying to out the class as I have mained a templar since PC launch and even beta.

Restoring Focus
PotL
Binding javelin or Toppling charge if I want to run the torc
Extended ritual
Biting Jabs

6 Skills even if I run in a group and slap on remembrance.

POTL is at risk of a loss in the next patch depending on if I feel it is giving burst.
Jabs obviously will not fly during those tests

I mean, I get it; but lack of templar abilities is not the problem. Lack of defense, utility (mobility, escapes AOE CC) and debuff abilities are. It really doesn't help to overblow the issues.

EDIT: And to add to this.

Restoring focus is absolutely a must. WTH would you use chudan when you get the resists and resource returns?

POTL is our burst and needed, although hard to build it up on a good opponent so it is at risk of coming off. Still adds minor fracture though. Out only debuff

Binding javelin does decent damage and CCs while toppling provides gap closer and off balance along with the stun

Extended ritual is really important as templar does not have a uniquie defense and people do use DOTs. You can cleanse that delayed curse, defile,, fracture/breach, magicka steal and even other templar jesus beams.

Biting jabs is still one of the best spammables in game.

FrancisCrawford

I just healed a dungeon today equipping Shards, Reflective Light, HotD, Solar Prison (or whichever morph I use), Channeled Focus, and Radiant Glory. Radiant Glory is the only one that was unusual for me to run, but I kind of liked having it.

When soloing I might run most of those same skills plus Sweeps, Solar Barrage and Crescent Sweep.

Everest_Lionheart

6+ skills

PvE solo build. Sweeps, vampires bane, channeled focus, blazing spear, solar barrage and solar disturbance ult. I have sweeps double barred because it’s my only heal. Sometimes I swap the backbar sweeps for ritual of retribution though. Have to slot wall of elements from destro line because of maelstrom staff, also need ele drain because solo player and I use channeled acceleration from psijic and degeneration from mages for the major sorcery and minor force buffs. Solo magplar still has a good identity.

Guthix_of_the_Green

1. Solar barrage - 40% light attack buff + AoE pulse

2. Reflective light(multi) - huge multi dot that does big direct damage

3. Blazing spear (Shards) - Huge area direct aoe with minor dot+ restore synergy

4. Cresent sweep ULTIMATE - low-cost, nice direct burst to minor dot
BACKBAR
1. Ritual of retribution - huge AOE damage + healing
2. breathe of life - Big direct heal+ 2 other party memebrs
3. Practice incantaion ULTIMATE


I didnt realize i had 7 class abilities barred . But this is my main and all mob packs die with all the aoe

Danikat

6+ skills

I use 6 templar skills, 3 on each bar.

On my bow bar I've got Blazing Spear, Reflective Light and a Restoring Light skill...I think it's Ritual of Retribution but I'm not entirely sure. (I'm not logged in and I'm not very good at remembering the names.)

On my dual wield bar I've got Biting Jabs, Power of Light and Breath of Life. I was using the Dawn's Wrath ultimate as well, but I've been experimenting with different options recently as well.

I make builds based on the theme I have in mind for the character and pick skills which I think suite them, not what I'm told is currently popular. I made my character a templar because I wanted to use those skills, so I work them into whatever build I'm using. The only one I'd like to take out is Biting Jabs, because I'd rather have another dual wield skill, but it's very effective and pretty fun, if it was less glowy it'd be perfect.

AcadianPaladin

6+ skills

Magplar healer -

Resto bar: Ext Ritual, Channeled Focus, Ritual of Rebirth.
Destro bar: Shards, Reflective Light, Sweeps.

AlnilamE

5 skills (you a lie or just trying out the class)

I didn't realize this was a PvP thread, but anyway, on average, I have 5 skills on my Magplar and 5 on my Stamplar, depending on role.

Fur_like_snow

6+ skills

If this is about the upcoming PvP test than yes Templar is gonna get boned and you’re gonna have to rethink your build. Normally I run 5-6 class skills on my stamplar.

Fischblut

6+ skills

2. Jabs is the only useful skill, cleanse is worthless but others can use it to cleanse rune is worthless as I am not going to stand in a small circle like that guy from Witcher 3 DLC

"You a lie or just trying out the class"

My stamplar uses:

Power of the light, Binding Javelin, Biting Jabs
Restoring Focus, Extended Ritual, Repentance, Remembrance ultimate

And some stamplars also use Empowering Sweep ultimate, and Toppling Charge.

2. How useful are those class skills

Very useful.

3. Do you feel identity

Yes. I don't like nerfs and bad changes, like incoming AoE changes. But since 2018 and at the moment, my stamina templar is still my favourite character

nukk3r

6+ skills

PvE magplar DD, 8 skills. This is my dungeon setup:

Oreyn_Bearclaw

6+ skills

An end game PVE DPS rotation will use 6-7 skills on a magplar. Depends on my spammable. For 4 man, I use sweeps, so its 7 total.

Sweeps,
Purifying Light,
Solar Barrage,
Blazing Spear,
Vampires Bane,
Radiant Oppression
Crescent Sweep.

That's pretty much on par with most other magic classes. My DK uses 6. My NB uses 6-7, sorc probably uses the most, but that is because pets take two slots.

NotaDaedraWorshipper

Feels like my templars are one of the classes which uses most class skills. While my stamsorc might as well had been the stamweaponskill class for ages.

Ratzkifal

6+ skills

Jabs, Rune, Extended Ritual, Repentance, Toppling Charge, Power of the Light.

I used to use Javelin but they turned it from a knockback into a stun and since I already have a regular stun with toppling charge I switched that skill out.

DocFrost72

5 skills (you a lie or just trying out the class)

Solo stamplar.

Front bar: Jabs, blood craze, power of the light, rearming trap (what is it now? barbed? lol), vigor, empowering sweep.

back bar: restoring focus, poison inject, endless hail, ritual of retribution, repentance, balista.

I voted 5 though, because I'll be removing ritual next patch except for situational fights (praxtin, ie)

West93

5 skills (you a lie or just trying out the class)

Stamina templar 5 skills pvp

1. Biting jabs
2. Power of the light
3. Toppling charge
4. Rune focus
5. Cleansing ritual

Next patch might drop power of the light though.

West93

5 skills (you a lie or just trying out the class)

LuxLunae wrote: »

Ok first I want to know,

1. How much class skills do you use
2. How useful are those class skills
3. Do you feel identity

Now I realize I MIGHT BE THE OUTLIER HERE !!

1. I use at max jabs cleanse and rune.
2. Jabs is the only useful skill, cleanse is worthless but others can use it to cleanse rune is worthless as I am not going to stand in a small circle like that guy from Witcher 3 DLC
3. Since I am changing to using Flurry and Mighty Chudan, 2 templar skills have become utterly worthless. Cleanse I shouldnt even bother with. Nobody is using DOT nowadays to kill and by the time I switch my bar and hit the cleanse the Sorc has already blown me to bits...

So in a sense I am leaning towards being a no class bar templar as it might become more efficient than you know.. actually using the class skills....

Speaking on the stamplar side...

Rune gives you either magicka or stamina regen and quite a lot, it really helps with sustain and buff lasts 20seconds (used to last 8) you don't need to stand in rune circle, but sometimes its possible in pvp if you are kitting around a tree/rock and going back to same spot in circle.

Why would you run chudan its ***, rune costs nothing and is a great major resolve skill. If you want more defense try out malubeth or even bloodspawn/trollking and engine guardian.

Cleanse cost a lot but is not worthless.

What I want for templar is I wish that for magplar darkflare could work like crystal frag (chance to proc it instant) and for stamplar to have a stamina based self heal (maybe a morph from hasty prayer that no one uses).

Lady_Sleepless

I think for a few patches now templar has been one of the best classes for actually using class abilities.

Kalik_Gold

Stamplar - 5 skills
Magplar - 6 / 7 skills

Joy_Division

Danksta wrote: »

Imagine thinking you need to stand in the rune to get your resistance buffs and resource return.

Hard to imagine it took ZoS years to address this.

To the OP: Just wait to see your Templar skills during the no-AoE test!

Everest_Lionheart

6+ skills

nukk3r wrote: »

PvE magplar DD, 8 skills. This is my dungeon setup:

What kind of numbers you doing with this? I’m looking to convert my magplar from solo to DPS for trials.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

6+ skills

Joy_Division wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Imagine thinking you need to stand in the rune to get your resistance buffs and resource return.

Hard to imagine it took ZoS years to address this.

To the OP: Just wait to see your Templar skills during the no-AoE test!

@Joy_Division
Long Live Wrobel's House!!!

Not gonna lie, very excited for the AOE test. That said, my Templar is definitely going to sit this one out. haha

nukk3r

6+ skills

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

nukk3r wrote: »

PvE magplar DD, 8 skills. This is my dungeon setup:

What kind of numbers you doing with this? I’m looking to convert my magplar from solo to DPS for trials.

This is more of a utility setup for my dungeon group. If a tank does a good job with stacking and immobilizing I use Mystic Orb instead of Timestop.

I swapped HtD, Timestop and Barrier for Trap, Spell Symmetry and Meteor and got 60k, but i'm not really good at parsing. The main issue is sustain, so if the healer is slacking with orbs a heavy attack here and there won't hurt.

Ri_Khan

6+ skills

I'll sweep y'ass too!

ArchMikem

5 skills (you a lie or just trying out the class)

My MagPlar is a Healer, so I basically use most abilities BUT Jabs.

sharquez

Did op have a stroke with this inarticulate mess of a post?

Gapclose, Jabs, POTL/morphs, Ultis, execute, BOL, Cleanse, repentance

Everest_Lionheart

6+ skills

nukk3r wrote: »

Everest_Lionheart wrote: »

nukk3r wrote: »

PvE magplar DD, 8 skills. This is my dungeon setup:

What kind of numbers you doing with this? I’m looking to convert my magplar from solo to DPS for trials.

This is more of a utility setup for my dungeon group. If a tank does a good job with stacking and immobilizing I use Mystic Orb instead of Timestop.

I swapped HtD, Timestop and Barrier for Trap, Spell Symmetry and Meteor and got 60k, but i'm not really good at parsing. The main issue is sustain, so if the healer is slacking with orbs a heavy attack here and there won't hurt.

I’ve been taking my solo magplar into normal DLC dungeons, non DLC vet dungeons and normal trials and it keeps up, but I need an extra gear for vet trials. Sitting at 42k because mine is a heavy AOE setup also running double lightning staves because it’s better for solo.

Sustain is also my problem. Too much heavy attacking on long boss fights. That’s the trade for melting trash instantly I guess.

Reverb

6+ skills

It depends. In pvp I use many class skills on both my Magplar and my Stamplar. On my magplar I have 7 class skills slotted right now.

As a pve dps I think I usually have 5-6 class skills. As a pve healer I have 4, 5 when a nova is needed.

Edit: Updated numbers. I somehow forgot to count Luminous Shards initially, despite that never coming off my bar.

Reverb

6+ skills

Joy_Division wrote: »

Danksta wrote: »

Imagine thinking you need to stand in the rune to get your resistance buffs and resource return.

Hard to imagine it took ZoS years to address this.

To the OP: Just wait to see your Templar skills during the no-AoE test!

I’m really not looking forward to it on my magplar. I think I’ll just take up fishing.

Salvas_Aren

6+ skills

jabs, cleanse, rune, sphere, melting faces, ritual and ultimate healing ult, sometimes even a charge.

and, as the titles says, how i have healed and rezzed in all possible circumstances, often healing people who hit 0 HP for a second, i regurlarly got called the OG necromancer, and im probably not alone.