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Greymoor Home Decorating Contest - Winner photoshopped/filtered?

NotaDaedraWorshipper
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Firstly, I shall congratulate all the winners, and thank ZoS for holding a housing contest with such nice prices. Couldn't been easy to decide winners and runner ups.

But after looking at the winners closely I've found something that is really bothering me. Which is that the Nord theme winner's screenshot looks photoshopped or at least filtered with something. The in game textures and lightning doesn't look like that.

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Edited by NotaDaedraWorshipper on July 25, 2020 1:27PM
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  • idk
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    I went to the home and reproduced the shot. I'm pretty sure you guys are wrong on some of these, especially the perspective on the wheels. Looks like Seaofstars did in fact take a normal screenie. But the horn does look odd. Maybe time of day? It's partially outside. 8jctuzd7kghh.png

    Good counterpoint
    Really, idk
  • Caelnir
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    That proves it's edited even more. You couldn't fit the items on sides as he/she did. Textures are still different and color correction is even more visible. As I stated before, there is no editing on furnishing aspect but noone can convince me that screenshot is not edited. It is %100 not raw.
  • Caelnir
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    You can fit more in if you change the FoV, it did this with mine.

    Let's say she changed FoV, and let's say the angle is all right. Do you still think there is no editing color wise or some kind of fx filter on that screenshot? I really do not buy that brush texture on some items myself.
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Yeah. Fitting everything into the screenshot is not what bothers me and made me think it's altered in some way, but the lightning and brushed feeling of the textures.
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  • StabbityDoom
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    JnD wrote: »
    I really don't mind if they used or not a slight photoshop or editing effect to publish it.
    All houses that won or runners up are absolutely amazing.
    I'm sure, as they said in the video, that many people sent beautiful creations. It would be awesome to be able to see some if them :smile:

    I showed a few on my stream today and I am happy to tour anyone's entries on PC/NA or EU - please just let me know! I was super impressed with just the ones I saw today!
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  • Caelnir
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    Hey @caelnir it takes real guts to admit that. I admire that.

    Well, I am just pointing out the issues that might be caused because of the reasons "not" because of editing.

    I am still sceptical person about it and remain to be. No matter which light I tried her items always look more blurry than mine and texture is always more blended with background. There are things I can not explain without proof. It's not my place to claim what people did or did not.

    Also there is no reason to jump on people voicing their doubts either. We are not attacking, we are sharing our thoughts. Hope that is clear.
  • JnD
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    JnD wrote: »
    I really don't mind if they used or not a slight photoshop or editing effect to publish it.
    All houses that won or runners up are absolutely amazing.
    I'm sure, as they said in the video, that many people sent beautiful creations. It would be awesome to be able to see some if them :smile:

    I showed a few on my stream today and I am happy to tour anyone's entries on PC/NA or EU - please just let me know! I was super impressed with just the ones I saw today!

    Sorry, I hadn't seen your today's stream. I will tonight, for sure. Looking forward to it! :blush:
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    I'm of a similar mindset as Caelnir and can only agree with him. I have in no way meant their house is badly done or not deserving of winning. If I'm wrong then I'd be wrong and I'm fine with that. I've also tried reason the things I deem odd with various things that would explain it.
    But I'm still sceptical about it and think it looks amiss.
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  • bluebird
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    Well, yes it does look unnatural, especially compared to Stabby's comparison. I play on a high-end PC with max graphics settings, and even with either of the Anti-aliasing settings, and with low gamma, images never come out that smooth and vibrant. They may have indeed touched up their screenshot after the fact, because those don't look like qualities achievable with the vanilla ingame settings.

    However, they might just be using a Graphics tweak AddOn or Reshade mod:
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    If they have something like this, all their game will look different from base game values, and they may not have deliberately 'tampered' with their contest entry. The rules clearly said to disable Special FX, but there was no mention of forbidding the use of Graphical enhancement mods. So it wouldn't have been against the rules.
    Edited by bluebird on July 25, 2020 9:53PM
  • Chuck_Finley
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    One of the Vampire winners looked a little bit touched up to me too but ultimately they were all very nice homes and I'm sure they would have won anyway. Because it was about the design of the home, not how vibrant the reds were or how deep the blacks were.

    However since they said repeatedly that by the end they couldn't really pick their "favorite 3" because there were so many they loved, I would love to see an extended gallery go up of all the entries they loved. Even if they post 80 images for each category :smiley:

    Heck even if its 200+ images per category I'd love to see the best entries from this contest! I just loved this contest idea so much and I really want to see more!
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    I showed a few on my stream today and I am happy to tour anyone's entries on PC/NA or EU - please just let me know! I was super impressed with just the ones I saw today!

    What is your stream or youtube link? I would love to see a tour of the entries too!
    Edited by Chuck_Finley on July 26, 2020 2:55AM
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    I showed a few on my stream today and I am happy to tour anyone's entries on PC/NA or EU - please just let me know! I was super impressed with just the ones I saw today!

    What is your stream or youtube link? I would love to see a tour of the entries too!

    I will be putting an index up today so you can skip directly to the entries, but for now, here's a link to the episode:

    I'll be doing more
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  • rrimöykk
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    bluebird wrote: »
    If they have something like this, all their game will look different from base game values, and they may not have deliberately 'tampered' with their contest entry. The rules clearly said to disable Special FX, but there was no mention of forbidding the use of Graphical enhancement mods. So it wouldn't have been against the rules.

    One of many reasons why these competitions should be divided to PC only and console only. We can not use any mods or addons or pts and we are forced to compete in the same category. That's the most unfair aspect of housing contest.
  • mikikatze
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    Oh my god, you sound like somebody took something away from you which you never owned in the first place...

    Did it state in the rules that Photoshop etc. is forbidden? I only read the German rules where this wasn't mentioned.
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    Screenshot looks like upon reshade, it wasnt forbidden as i've read.
  • StabbityDoom
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    It could be as simple as just gamma. I should state: Mine is usually up pretty high for touring houses, and that could explain the difference.
    Edited by StabbityDoom on July 26, 2020 1:07PM
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  • Kittytravel
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    Firstly, I shall congratulate all the winners, and thank ZoS for holding a housing contest with such nice prices. Couldn't been easy to decide winners and runner ups.

    But after looking at the winners closely I've found something that is really bothering me. Which is that the Nord theme winner's screenshot looks photoshopped or at least filtered with something. The in game textures and lightning doesn't look like that.

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    Posting this for comparison; taken from the ESO live stream twitch.tv/videos/689595274 at 54:20
    Doesn't seem to be any difference to me and I highly doubt they edited it in real time; feel free to go look at it yourself.
    Edited by Kittytravel on July 27, 2020 2:20AM
  • bluebird
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    Firstly, I shall congratulate all the winners, and thank ZoS for holding a housing contest with such nice prices. Couldn't been easy to decide winners and runner ups.

    But after looking at the winners closely I've found something that is really bothering me. Which is that the Nord theme winner's screenshot looks photoshopped or at least filtered with something. The in game textures and lightning doesn't look like that.

    pB9TurU.png
    Posting this for comparison; taken from the ESO live stream twitch.tv/videos/689595274 at 54:20
    Doesn't seem to be any difference to me and I highly doubt they edited it in real time; feel free to go look at it yourself.
    Just FYI, that's the same image. ESO Live was showing off the Screenshots, they didn't visit anybody's home. :smile:

    But in any case, touching up the image or using graphics tuning addons wasn't against the rules anyway. And the judges likely looked at the creativity of the concept, the execution of the vision, and the details put into the entries (as they seemed to be mentioning those criteria often during the stream). Even OP wasn't campaigning to have the winner disqualified at all (unless I missed some malicious comments that were later deleted), and as I said they have done nothing against the rules either way so people were just wondering how exactly they got the entry to look like that.
    Edited by bluebird on July 27, 2020 2:42AM
  • Kittytravel
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    bluebird wrote: »
    Firstly, I shall congratulate all the winners, and thank ZoS for holding a housing contest with such nice prices. Couldn't been easy to decide winners and runner ups.

    But after looking at the winners closely I've found something that is really bothering me. Which is that the Nord theme winner's screenshot looks photoshopped or at least filtered with something. The in game textures and lightning doesn't look like that.

    pB9TurU.png
    Posting this for comparison; taken from the ESO live stream twitch.tv/videos/689595274 at 54:20
    Doesn't seem to be any difference to me and I highly doubt they edited it in real time; feel free to go look at it yourself.
    Just FYI, that's the same image. ESO Live was showing off the Screenshots, they didn't visit anybody's home. :smile:

    But in any case, touching up the image or using graphics tuning addons wasn't against the rules anyway. And the judges likely looked at the creativity of the concept, the execution of the vision, and the details put into the entries (as they seemed to be mentioning those criteria often during the stream). Even OP wasn't campaigning to have the winner disqualified at all (unless I missed some malicious comments that were later deleted), and as I said they have done nothing against the rules either way so people were just wondering how exactly they got the entry to look like that.

    Thanks, the lower resolution on OPs image confused me as well as the slight cropping at the very top of it.
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