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Need some help/advice in PVP

brear_x
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Hello!

So At the start of this year I decided to give up PVE'ing as I just didn't enjoy it and I started to take pvp seriously so pretty much in cyrodiil every day. I always did multiple battlegrounds per day so I'm not completely new to PVP. My main problem is avoiding damage or healing or a mixture of both, my burst combo is fine I have no problems with that at all.

I see people my own CP easily out healing or out pacing everything else yet I can't at all. I can last quite a while when it's 1v1 unless they are really good, but as soon as you add 1 more person that's it I die in seconds no matter how low experience the other people seem

Here are my build stats etc

Class - Nord Stam Warden

CP - 267

CP allocation - This isn't exact but it's just spread out and aiming mostly at resistance, healing and tumbling

Health - 30.9k

Mag - 12k

Stam - 29k

Crit resist - 2700

Health recov - 800

Stam recov - 1900

Mag recov 600

Wep damage - 4,400 - 4,900 (Enchant procced) - Max with fury it's at about 5,400

Spell resist - 29k

Physical resist - 32


Armor - NMA & Fury - 2 Heavy 5 medium - Fury is all gold NMA is all purple

Wep - front bar - NMA nirn Maul - gold - wep damage enchant

Wep - Back Bar - NMA dagger - gold - defending

Shield - Agility shield, purple

(I am still waiting to get potentates back bar but we never seem to have vlastrus lol)

Skills

FB - Rally - Sub assault - Executioner - Dizzy - Bird of Prey - DB of smiting

BB - Leeching vines or the mushrooms - Vigor - Shuffle - Netch - Armor buff - Healing trees - (I do have undo but I realised that warden armor buff gives minor protection anyway so not much point?

So I play in CP as I can't stand no CP for some reason , it really doesn't interest me

I am not in the slightest expecting to be able to go round 1 shotting everyone, but when I see people 3-500 CP managing to heal through 3 peoples damage it just really baffles me as to how they do it. I really don't think getting higher CP will make a massive difference, as I jjust moved from PS4 and it was the same on there

How can I practice kiting and LOS and why are my heals so low? My heals are like 1.1k on vigor and crit at most for 2.5k. Will this be the low CP? I see stam wardens on youtube healing for 4K + even with the recent patch

I just really want some overall advice, how long did it take you to get good at pvp, or at least starting to notice a difference. I know everyone learns at different rates. IIs there any tips for learning?

Hoping someone can help me! xD
  • Karmanorway
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    I have pvped for 5 years and im still bad, pvp will be a never ending learning curve, and u will always meet someone better then you.

    Edit: Just saw u had all the information i asked for 😂 can u write down your cp allocation and mundus?
    Edited by Karmanorway on July 20, 2020 10:56PM
  • brear_x
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    HI,

    I have warrior mundus

    around 29k spell resist and 32k physical - 2.7k crit resist

    I use fury and new moon - 5 medium 2 heavy and atm engine guardian helmet malubeth shoulders as I haven't had the chance to farm many keys yet being new to pc

    It's just frustrating because sometimes I just feel I really won't get much better than I am now, regardless if I was max CP or not. Really frustrating xD
  • Karmanorway
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    brear_x wrote: »
    HI,

    I have warrior mundus

    around 29k spell resist and 32k physical - 2.7k crit resist

    I use fury and new moon - 5 medium 2 heavy and atm engine guardian helmet malubeth shoulders as I haven't had the chance to farm many keys yet being new to pc

    It's just frustrating because sometimes I just feel I really won't get much better than I am now, regardless if I was max CP or not. Really frustrating xD

    Are you on EU?
  • brear_x
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    On PC EU yeh
  • Karmanorway
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    brear_x wrote: »
    On PC EU yeh

    Send me a message ingame If u can @karmanorway
  • brear_x
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    I will do when I get home I’m just photographing comet NEOWISE :)
  • Goodall
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    Thats PVP. One day I will be smacking people down. Then all of a sudden I will come across a player that will completely melt me away like I was nothing.

    You never going to find the perfect build imo. I'm always tweaking stuff which is half the fun. And even if you find the perfect build it will perform different on the situation.


  • TineaCruris
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    As a stam toon, you should be running steed mundus in PvP.....if you are not already.
  • brear_x
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    As a stam toon, you should be running steed mundus in PvP.....if you are not already.

    Is that to help me get around objects quicker then? better for 1vx?
  • TineaCruris
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    brear_x wrote: »
    As a stam toon, you should be running steed mundus in PvP.....if you are not already.

    Is that to help me get around objects quicker then? better for 1vx?

    The health regen and movement speed is OP in PvP. It doesn't seem like it when you read the mundus description, but it is. You will see and agree I think. You are faster and more survivable with steed. (the two things you need most in PvP) All my stam toons run Steed mundus during PvP. Go with other mundus to do more dps in PvE though. And depending, you are probably better off with thief mundus in PvE to get your crit up rather than warrior mundus. The warrior mundus is actually one of the weaker mundus in most situations. Always steed in PvP for stam toons, then thief or shadow for PvE is usually the strongest.

    And as far as how long it takes to get good at PvP? I don't know, I kinda stink, but I win most of the fights and have a good time most of the time when things are mostly working with the game. So I think that should be the measure not whether or not you can 1v1 some famous streamer whose been paid to play the game for the last 5 years straight.
    Edited by TineaCruris on July 21, 2020 1:12AM
  • OlumoGarbag
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    If your cp are this low, you should really play non-cp until you have more.
    class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling
  • Ruder
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    @brear_x
    For a new low CP PvPer I recommend you to go Full Heavy armor and put Troll King, Engine Guardian or Bloodspawn.

    I run NMA / Fury on my warden in 7 heavy, also I love to use Steed and Lord munduses for survivability.
  • brear_x
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    Ruder wrote: »
    @brear_x
    For a new low CP PvPer I recommend you to go Full Heavy armor and put Troll King, Engine Guardian or Bloodspawn.

    I run NMA / Fury on my warden in 7 heavy, also I love to use Steed and Lord munduses for survivability.

    Yeh tbh that’s one thing I haven’t tried is full heavy.

    The more I think about it the better it will be as I suppose I might start surviving a little longer to be able to practice kiting and LOS. Whereas in medium armour you just melt and you can’t learn anything!
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