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PSA #5: Stamina Warden PVE DPS Is Still Terrible (A Final Plea)

Skjaldbjorn
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And we're back. It's Stam Warden DPS Sucks Electric Boogaloo. Reading these patch notes actually made me really happy. There's some great changes here. Lokke/Rele nerf to shift the meta? Yandir buff that makes sense? AY buff? There are so many changes here that are going to drastically shift the meta in really good ways. The vast majority of these notes, even a lot of the "nerfs", are positive for the PVE end-game. We're reshuffling a lot of the tired elements that have been stock standard meta for patch after patch. That's exciting stuff! Stam Sorcs got a freaking class spammable? Like...what?

And yet, my beloved Stamden is...still terrible. At this point, i'm reasonably convinced that's just the direction you guys want them to be in. Good in PVP, just straight trash in PVE. If that's the case, seriously, just say so. We can all move on to other classes and stop pretending or clinging to a vain hope that one day Stamden will be meta. The closest we ever really got was right before Elsweyr, and then you nerfed our damage passive, threw birds in the dumpster and the wheels fell off. We're not asking for a lot, but Warden hasn't been legitimately relevant in over a year as a Stamina DPS.

I don't normally tag people because I think that's rude, but this is my last attempt at getting some kind of answer or direction from the devs. After this one, I throw in the towel, you win, i'm a Stam Sorc main or whatever. So @ZOS_GinaBruno is this the actual methodology behind the complete lack of Stamden changes over the last year or so? Or is there something coming in the near (and I mean near) future that we should be hoping for?
  • Taleof2Cities
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    Unless you have specific comments about the patch notes, @Skjaldbjorn, new player ideas really should be in the Combat & Character Mechanics forums.

    PTS forums is for testing, evaluation, and feedback on actual changes in the patch.
  • SodanTok
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    Not enough complains to generate big feedback regarding stamina warden. Or warden in general. As the class started weak in PVE and strong in PVP the feedback traction was always heavy on the nerf in PVP side and nothing else. Consistent bugfixes only confirm its viewed as "working as intended" class where almost all other classes have way more volatile (up and down) changes in every patch. Q3 DLC will be 2 year anniversary since last time ZoS noticed warden being weak and invested time to touch it, so holding thumbs? :D
  • Narvuntien
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    Its kind of awkward where 2% is too low and 3% is too high for the predation passive.

    Maybe they should swap it to a flat bonus per animal companion sloted, but then, we might have a PVP issue with tanks dealing big damage.. very awkward problem to fix.
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