What should be first pve character (damage dealer)?

Edelner

What should be first character (damage dealer) and why? Please choose magicka or stamina and write the build and arguments.

AmoralOne

Assuming if this is for PvP

Wheres the other option Join the ranks of us healers, and negate tanks. DPS are a dime a dozen, and they smell bad, but a good support. Now thats a needle in a haystack You'll have guilds sliding in your DM trying to bait you in their guilds with warm cookies, and milk.

Starlock

I don't do "builds," but I'll just toss this in here - what do you want to play and what types of content are you looking to do?

Chaos2088

Magicka

Vanos444

Magicka

Start as a summer race and play Templar...

max_only

Your first character in this game? A Magicka templar. That way you can still get into groups as a healer if the dps slots are full. (you don’t need much to be a healer early on, you toss your shards and you use your class heals which you use for AOE damage anyway. You don’t even need a restoration staff at first.)

When solo, just pressing sweeps will heal you as you damage so PVE is really simple. Sweeps sweeps sweeps. It’s the ultimate dad build. Wear Julianos and anything else you can get your hands on until cp 160. All points in Magicka. Always wear 5 light, 1 heavy, 1 medium so you can train for the future and take advantage of the armor passives that don’t require 5 pieces — yes those passives are that good.

zvavi

Magicka

I... Just don't enjoy stamina.

VDoom1

Magicka

If it's your first character in ESO, ever, I recommend you go as a Magicka DD. Usually it's easier going as a magicka DD and their rotation is easier than stamina DDs. Plus it's a lot of fun. MagPlar (magicka Templar) and MagSorc (magicka Sorcerer) are very fun.

Tandor

Choose whatever character you want to play, don't follow someone else's preferences, and don't have any regard to the "endgame". Most of all, don't base your entire approach to ESO on said mythical endgame, just play to smell the roses and enjoy the journey. This game is about so much more than reaching the destination, in so far as it exists in this or any other MMO, basically it's just the point at which you moan about the lack of new content. Stick to one alliance questline and avoid hopping around between the alliance areas. This way you'll find yourself immersed in the game, unless that is you're only here for the PvP in which case there are doubtless more suitable games that are focused on PvP as opposed to this one which is very much focused on PvE.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Magicka

If you are pursuing endgame, which is fine and I applaud you for it, then yeah, magicka is easier.

Looks goofy, but easier.

MitsubishiOutlander

If someone is playing Elder Scrolls Online for the first time I suggest making a Healer class for first character. Let me explain why I'm thinking that way cause it will be helpful.

For starter's due the nature of Elder Scrolls Online their is crap ton of DPS. So when doing group content like dungeons where you got to queue up for it. Unless you got a tank/healer friend you can queue up with your going to be waiting a while to get in the dungeon.

Where playing as a Healer class you should be getting in a dungeon in less then 5 mins. Unless it's one of the dungeons that's hard cause most people don't understand the mechanics for that dungeon.

Let's say your Healer is now champion level 160 but you would like to level up a DPS class now. All you would have to do is get your DPS to level 50 once it reaches that it will become champion level 160 in this case. At this point you could queue for dungeons as your Healer to get in faster in order to get gear for your DPS class.

I know some people going to say something like "But I find Healer boring OR it's a class not for me" for a answer. I still find leveling a Healer for the first character helpful. The main focus of your job as a healer is to make sure the party members stay alive and do your part to help the fight in any way you can like applying DOT skills and party buffs.

I have a DPS warden I find there is more pressure on a DPS in group content then a healer but maybe that's just me. But now and then you could get more pressure on you as a healer just like what happened to me last night.

While I was in a dungeon a person joined which never done that dungeon before not their fault don't blame them. But the tank which was around CP 230 did not give us enough time to explain the dungeon mechanics to the new person. The tank ends up pulling a Leeroy Jenkins running in attacking...

For that who might not understand why I'm referring to Leeroy Jenkins watch this video Youtube Video Clip (Start time @ 1:23). If your wearing headset might want to turn down the volume before watching.

FrancisCrawford

Magicka, because you have good self-healing without going into PvP for Vigor. (Stamina wardens and necros have a bit of that too.)

Similarly, you have good healing for dungeon groups.

Templar is the best and easiest choice, because you almost immediately get enough skills to be very comfortable with. DK is the worst. The others are a matter of taste, although I'm probably in the majority when favoring wardens and pet sorcerers (except among people who don't like pets).

maddiniiLuna

Magicka

He want's PvE characters tho.

Ether way magicka is the best class to start, as in my opinion stamina is considerably harder to play due to the fact, that you are primarily close ranged. Personally i play like only stamina pve and pvp, so i know that you just got to pay a lot more attention to your surroundings then playing a ranged class.

The only difference is veteran raid content, where you often will stack up or have very specific mechanics to encounter.

max_only

Clarification: mag Templar is a great dps, it’s just that until you can maximize your potential in group pve, signing up as a Templar healer for groups is going to be easier. You still do damage as a healer. This isn’t wow where the healer just stands there waiting to heal because all their Magicka is eaten up every 3 casts and they can’t afford to do damage. In solo questing, mag Templar is mostly a one button class. By the time you get your footing you can make that character into dps focused only and you will have had some experience with the content (as a healer) before all eyes are on you to deliver the “phat deeps”. The “phattest deeps” is delivered by the class you understand the most and have geared appropriately. Until then, magtemplar carries you through the game.

UGotBenched91

max_only wrote: »

Clarification: mag Templar is a great dps, it’s just that until you can maximize your potential in group pve signing up as a Templar healer for groups is going to be easier. You still do damage as a healer. This isn’t wow where the healer just stands there waiting to heal because all their Magicka is eaten up every 3 casts and they can’t afford to do damage. In solo questing, mag Templar is mostly a one button class. By the time you get your footing you can make that character into dps focused only and you will have had some experience with the content before all eyes are in you to deliver the phat deeps.

I started with a healer but haven’t played him in awhile. What turned me away is the amount of sets you are expected to just have and carry with you for different dungeons and trials.

max_only

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Clarification: mag Templar is a great dps, it’s just that until you can maximize your potential in group pve signing up as a Templar healer for groups is going to be easier. You still do damage as a healer. This isn’t wow where the healer just stands there waiting to heal because all their Magicka is eaten up every 3 casts and they can’t afford to do damage. In solo questing, mag Templar is mostly a one button class. By the time you get your footing you can make that character into dps focused only and you will have had some experience with the content before all eyes are in you to deliver the phat deeps.

I started with a healer but haven’t played him in awhile. What turned me away is the amount of sets you are expected to just have and carry with you for different dungeons and trials.

By the time op is ready for trials they will have either supported an alt to max level with their Templar or be ready to respecc their Templar into something more unique. I’m not suggesting they Stay a healer til the end. I’m suggesting the best dps for a first timer is actually a class that is known for healing. I only carry 2 sets on my healer (pug and non pug lol)

Cerbolt

Magicka

The easiest class to start with is magicka Templar. You've got plenty of damage and can heal yourself if needs must. But beyond this I'm not sure what to recommend since you haven't given much information to go on.

UGotBenched91

max_only wrote: »

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Clarification: mag Templar is a great dps, it’s just that until you can maximize your potential in group pve signing up as a Templar healer for groups is going to be easier. You still do damage as a healer. This isn’t wow where the healer just stands there waiting to heal because all their Magicka is eaten up every 3 casts and they can’t afford to do damage. In solo questing, mag Templar is mostly a one button class. By the time you get your footing you can make that character into dps focused only and you will have had some experience with the content before all eyes are in you to deliver the phat deeps.

I started with a healer but haven’t played him in awhile. What turned me away is the amount of sets you are expected to just have and carry with you for different dungeons and trials.

By the time op is ready for trials they will have either supported an alt to max level with their Templar or be ready to respecc their Templar into something more unique. I’m not suggesting they Stay a healer til the end. I’m suggesting the best dps for a first timer is actually a class that is known for healing. I only carry 2 sets on my healer (pug and non pug lol)

Ah gotcha good advice! Yeah my first guild was an elitist guild ( the bad kind) and I’m still trying to wash myself of their “recommendations” as I never intend to be as hardcore as they were.

Jaimeh

Magicka

Edelner wrote: »

What should be first character (damage dealer) and why? Please choose magicka or stamina and write the build and arguments.

Magicka sorc is nice, good damage, shields, speed, pets, all around friendly and strong class for new DDs. However, if you are planning to do also questing with your character, magNB is another great option because of the invisibility from cloak--makes it easy to pass through mobs on the way to an objective if you don't want to fight them, etc.

MitsubishiOutlander

UGotBenched91 wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Clarification: mag Templar is a great dps, it’s just that until you can maximize your potential in group pve signing up as a Templar healer for groups is going to be easier. You still do damage as a healer. This isn’t wow where the healer just stands there waiting to heal because all their Magicka is eaten up every 3 casts and they can’t afford to do damage. In solo questing, mag Templar is mostly a one button class. By the time you get your footing you can make that character into dps focused only and you will have had some experience with the content before all eyes are in you to deliver the phat deeps.

I started with a healer but haven’t played him in awhile. What turned me away is the amount of sets you are expected to just have and carry with you for different dungeons and trials.

For some what easy to obtain healer gear that should get you through most content go with something like below.

Kagrenac's Hope (5 Piece) Chest, Belt, Shoes , Restro Staff, Lightning Staff OR something else.

Sentinel of Rkugamz (Monster Set) Head, Shoulder

Hollowfang Thirst (5 Piece) Pants, Hands, Necklace , Rings (two of them)

Reason for the Sentinel of Rkugamz (Monster Set) is the #2 bonus which tends to proc quite a bit. The main reason for Hollowfang Thirst is the more or less all it offers you as a healer. I play as a Templar Healer and after getting my Sentinel of Rkugamz monster set I noticed healing is little more easy.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Magicka

This ultimately comes down to a ranged vs melee argument IMO with a shield as the icing on the cake. Magic generally does much better at range than stamina (yes there are Bow bow builds using synergies that will melt crap, but not what I am talking about). You generally have to deal with less mechanics in range than you do in melee, and a shield is generally a better oh crap button than Vigor (main stamina heal). Magic is generally a much easier way to learn new content.

DPS in this games boils down to really two things: Your ability perform a rotation, and your ability to deal with mechanics. Gold star if you can do both at the same time, and that is much easier if you dont require your nose on the boss.

If I had to delete 17 of my 18 toons today (i have 3 of each class), the debate would ultimately be between my mSorc and my mNB. Neither are ever that far from the meta. If you always want to be top dog DPS, you need 12 characters, as virtually every spec has spent at least some time at the top.

Sorcs are easier to play, NBs have a higher ceiling if you have the skill. NB is the hardest rotation in ESO, as it is essentially 100% dynamic.

Browiseth

Stamina

become the chad, roll a stam sorc

+1 chad points for argonian

JinMori

Magicka

magicka, because it's more versatile.

Bradyfjord

Your original post presents a flawed question. It's more nuanced than stam/magicka.

Best advice goes back to what Deltia said in a video back in the day. "Max out all skills, morphs, guilds, and everything else that you can. You might need it at some point."

I took his advice, at least for my main. That way, I can adapt more easily to the content I might be playing. I can make any build I like because of this.

Everest_Lionheart

Magicka

I started as magicka warden and changed to stamina and my DPS went up significantly. The rotation changed and got a whole lot more complicated because certain skills are necessary and have weird channel/cast times especially when you play DW which feels
Fast and furious because of the animations and skills but your bread and butter damage has a 3 second channel. You need to really be in a rhythm for that particular class. Other stam classes play easier.

I created a second character, a magicka templar and after playing so long at stamina warden that magicka templar is full easy mode. Cast your rune, debuffs, aoe, dots and spam 1 skill until everything dies. You can lay down enough burst aoe sometimes that you don’t even need to spam your sweeps to cut through trash mobs. This is the build I use when I take people through public dungeons or team up with a partner for 4 man base game dungeons which I can also solo. Last night one of my guilds was doing public dungeons. They asked me to hold back because I can run into the room throw my spear, drop my solar barrage, unstable wall and ritual of retribution and everything dies. Everything. That’s 7 buttons pressed for the win with LA’s in between. It’s basically god mode and probably should be nerfed, but my stamwarden still does higher single target DPS.

I can’t deny how simple magplar is for a new player though. But I would recommend trying a harder class first of you’ll gimp yourself in the future if you try to play a different style.

Runefang

Magicka

Magicka DD is easier than Stamina for sure. Your class is the more important choice really.