So ZOS is now spending your subscription money on Youtube cooking shows

caperb

You would think that with all the performance problems, ZOS will spend money on better performance. Cyrodiil has been unplayable for years now and the lag is spreading to other parts of the game too. Soon we will get more players with the stadia release, so performance will even get worse. It would make the most sense if money is spent on increased work force or increased server capacity.

Instead they spend money on a Youtube cooking show to bring in more players..

The best part is, this video will not even reach a lot of people because of the language.

karekiz

This video needs to randomly cut out and the food teleport everywhere for the REAL eso cooking experience.

L_Nici

Uh interesting, I as a german can understand that partially, so yay.

DTAmoral

As much as I want to agree with you so hard, from a business point of view, they probably have a budget for this. Im sure you know, but a business doesn't just have 1 big pool of money, and you focus all of it at one thing.

They probably have a ton of different budgets for different things. unfortunately for us the performance budget doesn't seem to get enough love

I wish when we spent money on the game it gave us an option for how to redirect our money lol I spend $50 with ZOS and then I get to choose what budget the $50 goes to. <-- this is probably really flawed but it would be cool lol

MurderMostFoul

mArKeTiNg MaKe Me AnGrY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Linaleah

I'm genuinely curious how they chose the show. not that they chose this method of marketing, but why this particular show? usually marketing is targeted, and its done so for a reason. is Netherlands a market that specifically needed targeting?

Sarannah

Maybe alot of Dutch people play ESO, so it's not strange to fund something like that.

PS: I am Dutch.

CMDR_Un1k0rn

Sarannah wrote: »

Maybe alot of Dutch people play ESO, so it's not strange to fund something like that.

PS: I am Dutch.

I know loads of Dutch players.

Dare I say that the country does enjoy the game for whatever reason?

Actually oddly enough, most of my online friends in mainland Europe are Dutch.

Linaleah

ah well that would explain it

Kadoin

DTAmoral wrote: »

As much as I want to agree with you so hard, from a business point of view, they probably have a budget for this. Im sure you know, but a business doesn't just have 1 big pool of money, and you focus all of it at one thing.

And yet, not enough dev time to fix some errors that are literally a difference between "=" and "=="...

dotme

caperb wrote: »

You would think that with all the performance problems, ZOS will spend money on better performance... Instead they spend money on a Youtube cooking show to bring in more players..

I might be wrong, but I don't think that video has anything to do with ZOS. Looks like a normal YouTube creator video to me.

Linaleah

dotme wrote: »

caperb wrote: »

You would think that with all the performance problems, ZOS will spend money on better performance... Instead they spend money on a Youtube cooking show to bring in more players..

I might be wrong, but I don't think that video has anything to do with ZOS. Looks like a normal YouTube creator video to me.

official Greymoor intro looks like a sponsored video, I don't speak the language so i didn't really watch the rest and i cannot say if he brings up the sponsorship. but honestly, given his number of subscribers (as in how big of an audience will this sponsorship get) - he probably got a few thousand and a free copy of the game at most (i'm erring on a side of more rather then less). not exactly an insane amount of marketing dollars.

TheRealPotoroo

caperb wrote: »

You would think that with all the performance problems, ZOS will spend money on better performance. Cyrodiil has been unplayable for years now and the lag is spreading to other parts of the game too. Soon we will get more players with the stadia release, so performance will even get worse. It would make the most sense if money is spent on increased work force or increased server capacity.

Instead they spend money on a Youtube cooking show to bring in more players..

The best part is, this video will not even reach a lot of people because of the language.

LOL, the channel is called EtenmetNick - Eat with Nick.

Nemesis7884

he's dutch? where the hell is the melk hagel??

The_Old_Goat

Just to clarify something for you, once you pay ZOS for a sub, a product or anything, it's no longer your money.

Gilvoth

i love it

Ratzkifal

I don't speak dutch, but where does it say that ZOS paid this guy to do this?
To me it looks like a normal cooking channel that makes food inspired by different things. Was that video sponsored by ZOS? Also, how is that a bad thing anyway? Yeah, there are other things they should spend money on but that doesn't mean they shouldn't spend money on things like this at all... That is, if they even spent money for that.

Kiralyn2000

caperb wrote: »

You would think that with all the performance problems, ZOS will spend money on better performance.

I'm reasonably sure that the Marketing Dept has always had, and will always have, a budget. Even if the building was burning down.

(actually, I'm pretty sure all the departments of the company continue to have some sort of budget, even if there's a Major Priority for one of them to work on.)

kargen27

"Today we recreate food from one of the coolest game franchises I know. The Elder Scrolls!
I've played these games until late at night so many times while I was eating chips in my underpants. Today we make not 1 but 2 dishes from this world!"

That is what I got when I translated part of the description. I'm going to guess this has no affiliation with ZoS nor the Elder Scrolls and would not be at all surprised when the powers that be see it if it isn't shut down for using the intro.

virtus753

The_Old_Goat wrote: »

Just to clarify something for you, once you pay ZOS for a sub, a product or anything, it's no longer your money.

As a customer you still have an interest in how the money that you gave is being spent. Grammatical possession covers a lot more than legal possession.

essi2

Even if it was an official promotion, it would be Bethesda Softworks money being spent, not ZOS'.

Veinblood1965

It's "their" money now, they could spend it on chocolate covered pickles and it's theirs to spend. NONYA.

Linaleah

kargen27 wrote: »

"Today we recreate food from one of the coolest game franchises I know. The Elder Scrolls!
I've played these games until late at night so many times while I was eating chips in my underpants. Today we make not 1 but 2 dishes from this world!"

That is what I got when I translated part of the description. I'm going to guess this has no affiliation with ZoS nor the Elder Scrolls and would not be at all surprised when the powers that be see it if it isn't shut down for using the intro.

doubtful. at most its free advertisement, but I'm still reasonably sure its a sponsored video. the last part of the description according to google translate says

The Elder Scrolls Online is a huge online world, set for the events of Skyrim. Greymoor is the name of the new expansion, taking you back to Skyrim and the dark caves below. Greymoor is out now for PC, Xbox and PlayStation

with a link attached that takes you to "buy now" splash page. most youtubers disclose sponsorships as in "this video is sponsored by..." inside the video itself and most of them tend to start with a short intro for their sponsors, with longer sales pitch later in a video. description just has links to the sponsor.

and I'm not saying there is anything wrong with ZoS sponsoring a cooking show, and its not like they've never done something like that before, "sponsored twitch streams like Yoggcast, cough" - just saying that as habitual youtube watcher, this reads like a sponsored video to me.

baratron

It looks like he's taken recipes from the Elder Scrolls Official Cookbook and translated them into Dutch. Nothing to do with either ZOS or Bethesda. Just a fan video.

jircris11

caperb wrote: »

You would think that with all the performance problems, ZOS will spend money on better performance. Cyrodiil has been unplayable for years now and the lag is spreading to other parts of the game too. Soon we will get more players with the stadia release, so performance will even get worse. It would make the most sense if money is spent on increased work force or increased server capacity.

Instead they spend money on a Youtube cooking show to bring in more players..

The best part is, this video will not even reach a lot of people because of the language.

You ARE aware cooking shows are cheap right? When it comes to performance, frankly anything outside of a core code overhaul and disabling addons we won't get what most want.

Elsonso

dotme wrote: »

caperb wrote: »

You would think that with all the performance problems, ZOS will spend money on better performance... Instead they spend money on a Youtube cooking show to bring in more players..

I might be wrong, but I don't think that video has anything to do with ZOS. Looks like a normal YouTube creator video to me.

Agreed. Although, he might be thrilled if ZOS or Bethesda tossed a few guilders his direction.

caperb

Linaleah wrote: »

I'm genuinely curious how they chose the show. not that they chose this method of marketing, but why this particular show? usually marketing is targeted, and its done so for a reason. is Netherlands a market that specifically needed targeting?

Was curious about this too. We are not a very big country and I'm pretty sure most people interested in mmo's/rpg's already know about this game and either already own it or will not buy it. It is no easy task to change a Dutch mind when they already made their decision.

Some people say this could easily be a fan video too, but he promotes the game in Dutch, telling people it's available now. Given the limited audience I was quite surprised.

kargen27

He has a lot of cooking videos though only this one with ESO foods. The meatloaf one looks good.

Dusk_Coven

Is this a fake post to get view for this video?

spartaxoxo

You obviously have never owned a business. You spend some of your money on marketing in order to gain MORE revenue. Those ad dollars will hopefully end up netting a profit. Which you can use on making improvements to your business. Complaining that they are attempting to attract more players at a time when potential interest is absurd. Why would you expect no money to go towards marketing during a time of a new expansion?

Lisutaris

Well... nice/good idea but 6 years too late and other things more important atm ?. ... gj?
-> IF IT IS PAID ofc If it is just a "private and not paid" youtuber .... let them have fun and enjoy it.
If yes: