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Issues with certain motifs. Should ZOS make Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone styles farmable?
Like we all know, you can only obtain Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style for CE or CE upgrades.
We don't know why ZOS made this choice but we can all agree it's unreasonable to place whole motifs behind paywalls.
One could argue you need DLCs for new motifs, as a counter argument I say you can trade those motifs directly or witrh guild trader.
You can farm Morag Tong motifs in Vvardenfell but you cannot farm Divine Prosection or Dragonbone motifs from anywhere.
I think it's reasonable suggestion to make CE motifs farmable after one year of their initial release.
Crown store and CE aren't place for whole motifs (there are three crown store motifs, but they need a diffrent approach and solution).
I hope someday we could get official answer from ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno
We don't know why ZOS made this choice but we can all agree it's unreasonable to place whole motifs behind paywalls.
One could argue you need DLCs for new motifs, as a counter argument I say you can trade those motifs directly or witrh guild trader.
You can farm Morag Tong motifs in Vvardenfell but you cannot farm Divine Prosection or Dragonbone motifs from anywhere.
I think it's reasonable suggestion to make CE motifs farmable after one year of their initial release.
Crown store and CE aren't place for whole motifs (there are three crown store motifs, but they need a diffrent approach and solution).
I hope someday we could get official answer from ZOS. @ZOS_GinaBruno
Issues with certain motifs. Should ZOS make Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone styles farmable? 93 votes
Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).
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36 votes
Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution only (make CE motifs farmable after two years).
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4 votes
No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).
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TropicsDelight✭✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).I would like at the very least to be able to get the motifs or previous CE upgrades for prior expansions in the crown store. I am fairly new to the game and bought the Greymore pre-purchase and subbed ESO+ and because I bought the newest upcoming expansion I am effectively locked out of getting the Dragongone motif as it was sold on a CE of a expansion that was included in my pre-order of Greymore.
It would not really be cool to the people who bought the CE version of expansions to make the items they got world drops, but giving other players who are new a chance to buy that content on the crown store would make sense in quite a few different ways.
For future expansions they might want to consider a "Ultimate CE edition" of the expansion that includes all of the previous CE versions of the expansions along with the CE version of the newest release. That would allow new players to actually get the CE content from the prior expansions that came out before they ever played the game. That would sell very well to the newer players just starting the game. It makes little sense to not give those new players a way to purchase the old CE content from each expansion in a package like that. -
Darkenarlol✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Humble_Adventurer wrote: »we can all agree it's unreasonable to place whole motifs behind paywalls.
hmm...no
it is a cosmetic item from collector's edition
i see no reason why you should get it for free
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flyingduchessSoul ShrivenYes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).It's an outfit style, just like the Imperial and Morag Tong conversions. Not a motif.
After a while (idek how long that took) ZOS added the Morag Tong Motif as a rare drop from the Morrowind dailies. Same thing will probably happen to the Divone Prosecution. CE owners will prolly have to get the motif same as everyone else to craft it lmao.
I don't really get this whole idea of "I paid money for this so everyone else should too" though. I might get why it'd be an issue if people would just get it as a daily reward or something, but what's wrong with working for it? You can get basically every motif ingame by farming it, even if it takes a while and you gotta do harder content to increase the drop chance. The ones that don't drop ingame will lucky still be available during anniversary events, but again you gotta be lucky with that. If not, you just go to the guild store and splurge, if that's your thing. I know for a fact that if that incentive is taken away and more motifs would solely be available in the Crown Store, it'd be a lot more boring lmao. The incentive to farm it would be gone and we all know MMOs are kept alive by that. I can't help the fact you guys actually paid cash for that lol -
Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).Darkenarlol wrote: »hmm...no
it is a cosmetic item from collector's edition
i see no reason why you should get it for free
You do realise people can gift Summerset CE upgrade from Crown store?
That means people can get CE style with in-game by trading gold to crowns.
It's as free as farming Morag Tong style pages
By your logic sales shouldn't be allowed either because why should people get discount from items you have paid the full price?
This applies outside of TESO. For example in Steam, Origin or IRL.
You missed the idea behind my post, motifs shouldn't be included in CEs in the first place. -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Aside from the nitpick that those are outfit styles, not Craftable motifs, sure.
I own the Divine Prosecution one, and I wouldn't mind seeing it made into. Craftable motif that's available in game.
On the other hand, if ZOS prefers to preserve the exclusivity of the CE rewards, I can't blame them. At least it's just a cosmetic. -
Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Outfit conversions are no different from other CE-exclusive cosmetics. They are exactly what CE value consist of.None of us is getting any younger, you know.
Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event. > https://nairinhe.github.io/
...All true adventures include some deep bruises and frantic screaming, right?is Fennorian a light source?PC EU - EP
Annarath - Dunmer stamblade. Hero, thief, murderer. Of House Dres by blood, raised by Khajiit and Argonian people.
Norra Storfjallet - a mountain range Nord frostwarden. Must. Protect. Everyone. Found out that world is bigger than dad's farm.
Soothing-Paws Habasi - Khajiit healplar. Grandma you wish you had, but Annarath ain't sharing.
Serpentina Scintilla - Imperial magcro. If she said she's from Tharn family, even Tharn family would believe.
Gentle-Like-Snow - Argonian healblade. When she grows up she wants to be like Fennorian, but vampirism is a questionable first step.
Nuada Vendresi - Dunmer fire DK. Annarath's brother. Our mistakes shape us in most peculiar ways. -
MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).Yes, why not. Tbh, those CE motifs are rather lazy made, I only like boots from Prosecution and everything else have better thematic alternatives in dungeon/trial motifs.
If you look at detail and textures, despite CE motifs are produced in same time as relevant dungeon motifs, but difference in quality is very noticeable. -
Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).You can buy it after a year from its release in the collector bundle CE in the crown store with the exclusive mount of the chapter. Right now is available the Summerset one.
I think we all know this. I even posted about this as you can see here.Humble_Adventurer wrote: »You do realise people can gift Summerset CE upgrade from Crown store?
That means people can get CE style with in-game by trading gold to crowns.
It's as free as farming Morag Tong style pages
By your logic sales shouldn't be allowed either because why should people get discount from items you have paid the full price?
This applies outside of TESO. For example in Steam, Origin or IRL.
You missed the idea behind my post, motifs shouldn't be included in CEs in the first place.
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BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).This discussion feels a lot like “everyone should get a craft bag” type thing.
No. People paid for CE rewards, they should get CE rewards. Want that cosmetic only armor look? Pay for it, support the game.
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Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).This discussion feels a lot like “everyone should get a craft bag” type thing.
No. People paid for CE rewards, they should get CE rewards. Want that cosmetic only armor look? Pay for it, support the game.
It’s not limited time only, or even that much more expensive.
Craft bag cannot be compared to motifs (styles).
The other is cosmetic and can be "bought" with gold. I don't think everyone should get craft bag.
ZOS made Morag Tong farmable, why not do the same thing with Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone. ZOS made Imperial City free. They can easily make these styles farmable.
I bought this game when it was p2p, I bought Imperial edition, I bought Imperial City. I don't mind this game being b2p now, or people having access to Imperial style or Imperial City.
Game should not get it's money from things from unnecesary microtransactions. There are better ways to show support for this game.
We can also argue if CE and crown store motifs even look good. People can make their characters good looking without CE motifs or crown store costumes. In my opinion CE motifs shouldn't have existed in the first place.
I probably wouldn't have made this thread if Morag Tong motif wasn't farmable.
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Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).Ah, finally I understand why ZOS divorced some armour styles from craftable motifs.
So they could monetise yet another aspect of the game while adding to their pool of defenders. Now they new get both the "crafting doesn't matter because it isn't combat" as well as the "it's only cosmetic" groups. That was better played than I had given them credit for. Not nice, but better played.
But then, I am in the "originally bought a sub-only game with the understanding that there would be no paywalls and only account services in any associated cash-shop" crowd...
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redgreensunset✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).As someone who got both Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style I'm fine with them becoming farmable after a year or two. Like ifyou want something right now you pay and if you're willing to wait you can farm. Works for me. -
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✭✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Humble_Adventurer wrote: »Darkenarlol wrote: »hmm...no
it is a cosmetic item from collector's edition
i see no reason why you should get it for free
You do realise people can gift Summerset CE upgrade from Crown store?
That means people can get CE style with in-game by trading gold to crowns.
It's as free as farming Morag Tong style pages
That doesn't make it free, it just means someone else has to pay for it.Humble_Adventurer wrote: »I probably wouldn't have made this thread if Morag Tong motif wasn't farmable.
Morag Tong is only available as a crafting motif because back when Morrowind was released outfit styles didn't exist yet. Back then it was a style conversion that allowed you to change existing pieces to Morag Tong ones.
With the introduction of outfit styles that feature became obsolete and both Morag Tong and Imperial conversions were changed to outfit styles just like any new additions after that.
And because all motifs are also outfit styles, making the new ones available as motifs would diminish the value of the CE. Why would Zos want to do that? -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Collectors EditionRas Kalik | Redguard - Templar | The Vestige, Ahkahtuz | Champion 1000+ | PS4/NA | ESO+ Cancelled | DC PVPPvP Combatants:
Aurik Siet'ka | Redguard - Necromancer
Cee Fôr | Redguard, Vampire - Nightblade
Cacique the Sage of Ius | Redguard - Warden
Jux Blackheart | Redguard, Lycan - Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell | Redguard - Dragonknight
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin | Reachman, Nord - Warden <No CP>
Movárth Piquine | Nord, Vampire - Necromancer <Tank/Support>
Kaotik Von Dae'mon | Breton half-Redguard* - Sorcerer <Healer/Support>
PvE Adventurers:
Herzog Zwei the Genesis | Breton - Templar <Healer>
Cinan Tharn | Imperial, Vampire - Dragonknight <Tank>
Tyrus Septim | Imperial - Sorcerer <Lightning/Shock Damage>
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar | Imperial - Dragonknight <Fire Damage>
mmoRPG personal lore:Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard Paladin and the wielder of Chrysamere; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. (not only Sai Sahan has a secret snowflake!) Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from undead, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being from Hammerfell, and a Redguard wields two massive swords in respect to the Ansei. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight.
Jux Blackheart a master thief that was frequenting the Sisters of the Sands inn for pilfering during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of this and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight and his greed. He lost two fingertips as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught...
Kaotik Von’Daemon is an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, a Breton monk and two Imperial soldiers. One of the Imperials claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (Ras Kalik's mentor in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn is really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son, that was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired battle-mage soldier and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn is also a master of disguise, and uses his disguises while he robs various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Tharn also runs an illegal gambling ring...
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a Breton and also a prominent monk of the Cult of the Ancestor Moth, was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Ancestor Moth cult worshippers wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure. Ras Kalik did indeed notice the sword however, and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Breton men have parted ways for now... While Ras Kalik is off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little does Kalik know a few people are awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The one known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons, is awaiting his arrival also.
The journey to Senchal will also put him on a path to meet a strange man which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is only known as "the member C-4", as he gave up his born name when joining the cult. Cee Fôr is on a path to spread the disease as he was infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Cee For know, the infection is tied to Vampirism, but eventually the need for blood, will take over.
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected) within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in the Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar - grandfather of Silus Vesuius.
Uri Ice-Heart - twin of Urfon Ice-Heart. Twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart that are originally from Markarth but are now residing on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, their younger sister Araki has also relocated but she is in Windhelm currently. The twins joined the Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed east to Hammerfell with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri sent his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety to avoid the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. (but he doesn't know his sister has moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild). After hearing of Urfon's death... Uri left the Reach and is seeking vengeance. -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Well, you don't speak for me.... Now, what you could do would be set up a support ticket asking nicely if you could purchase for crowns those motifs since the CE options are now subsumed into the whole game pack you bought. -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).And because all motifs are also outfit styles, making the new ones available as motifs would diminish the value of the CE. Why would Zos want to do that?
Because ZOS have shown themselves quite happy to diminish the value of exclusive-buy items a year after launch before.
Case in point: Explorer's Pack vs. Adventurer's Pack -
Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).Sylvermynx wrote: »Well, you don't speak for me....
Read thread.Humble_Adventurer wrote: »I bought this game when it was p2p, I bought Imperial edition, I bought Imperial City. I don't mind this game being b2p now, or people having access to Imperial style or Imperial City.
Many of my friends and people in this thread have bought CE and are fine with motif "style" becoming farmable, some even want it. So you neither don't speak for me.Sylvermynx wrote: »Now, what you could do would be set up a support ticket asking nicely if you could purchase for crowns those motifs since the CE options are now subsumed into the whole game pack you bought
Why would I want to buy it with crowns? Why would I even want to trade Summerset CE upgrade for gold? Cannot people understand motif "style" shouldn't be CE only in the first place?
People who support this and game this way are supporting "pay more money to play less game" model. If people want to support this game and it's player base, they should buy TESO copies and DLCs for their friends. -
Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Can someone explain, why having mount or costume as CE-only cosmetic is fine, but outfit style (not motif, you cannot craft with it) - isn't?None of us is getting any younger, you know.
Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event. > https://nairinhe.github.io/
...All true adventures include some deep bruises and frantic screaming, right?is Fennorian a light source?PC EU - EP
Annarath - Dunmer stamblade. Hero, thief, murderer. Of House Dres by blood, raised by Khajiit and Argonian people.
Norra Storfjallet - a mountain range Nord frostwarden. Must. Protect. Everyone. Found out that world is bigger than dad's farm.
Soothing-Paws Habasi - Khajiit healplar. Grandma you wish you had, but Annarath ain't sharing.
Serpentina Scintilla - Imperial magcro. If she said she's from Tharn family, even Tharn family would believe.
Gentle-Like-Snow - Argonian healblade. When she grows up she wants to be like Fennorian, but vampirism is a questionable first step.
Nuada Vendresi - Dunmer fire DK. Annarath's brother. Our mistakes shape us in most peculiar ways. -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Nope. You need to buy what you want to buy. I don't buy anything for anyone other than myself. Yep, I'm selfish that way. I don't have any problem with what I pay to play the parts of the game I enjoy.
I did NOT buy the new chapter, and won't as it includes nothing I want to play. I'll get the skyshards once it's a free DLC with my ESO+ sub.
And I don't see any reason not to have CE limited motifs, just like other CE limited stuff. -
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✭✭✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Humble_Adventurer wrote: »Like we all know, you can only obtain Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style for CE or CE upgrades.
We don't know why ZOS made this choice but we can all agree it's unreasonable to place whole motifs behind paywalls.
We know exactly why ZOS made this choice - so that there's a bonus for getting a Collector's Edition. Just like the CE-only mounts/costumes/etc.
What is so odd about that?
I mean, I can't get a lot of Kickstarter or Pre-order bonuses for games that I didn't Kickstart or Pre-order, so this is nothing particularly new.Edited by Kiralyn2000 on May 17, 2020 3:18PM -
CMDR_Un1k0rn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Summerset CE bonuses were added to the CS when Elsweyr dropped. I see no reason the same won't happen to the Elsweyr CE bonuses when Greymoor releases in little over a week.Edited by CMDR_Un1k0rn on May 17, 2020 5:35PMA dude who likes tanking.
Jurgeld the Stalwart, Sergeant - Nord Dragonknight, EP
Next character now being decided...
PC-EU
PvP campaign - Ravenwatch -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).Ah, finally I understand why ZOS divorced some armour styles from craftable motifs.
So they could monetise yet another aspect of the game while adding to their pool of defenders. Now they new get both the "crafting doesn't matter because it isn't combat" as well as the "it's only cosmetic" groups. That was better played than I had given them credit for. Not nice, but better played.
Yup. Took me a while to realize that too, but it started becoming more obvious with Elsweyr. They're using all sorts of new tricks to trick players into paying more for less. You know those dragon-themed outfit styles that were in the cash shop around Esweyr? They're what... basically a portion of a motif and to collect all of them it'd cost you significantly more moeny than the cash shop only motifs ever costed?I play ESO on XBOX NA
Remember: Elder Scrolls Online appeals to a diverse customer base that view and play the game in different ways.
Regardless of how you play, be aware Elder Scrolls Online is play-to-pay game.
Use at your own risk and learn at https://www.psychologyofgames.com -
Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).You are forgetting the Stalhrim Frostcaster, Tsaesci Akaviri and Grim Harlequin style which are also behind a paywall and otherwise unobtainable.
Perhaps they could make it farmable after a year, just how the chapter you needed to pay extra for becomes just another DLC in your ESO+ package. It would also keep their older content fresh for longer.This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done. -
Iluvrien✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, they should give players ability to farm Divine Prosecution and Dragonbone style (make CE motifs farmable after one year).Sylvermynx wrote: »And I don't see any reason not to have CE limited motifs, just like other CE limited stuff.
Hmm, good point.
Ok, let’s not have any CE limited stuff. If an addition (merch, for example) is good the just sell it. ZOS just sells whatever the item is. For as long as people want to buy it.
No more of this artificial scarcity, FOMO, pre-orders over working content approach. If it is worth putting out there, then keep making it available. If not? Don’t bother. -
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✭✭No, they shouldn't give players abitlity to farm CE styles (explain).Sylvermynx wrote: »And I don't see any reason not to have CE limited motifs, just like other CE limited stuff.
Hmm, good point.
Ok, let’s not have any CE limited stuff. If an addition (merch, for example) is good the just sell it. ZOS just sells whatever the item is. For as long as people want to buy it.
No more of this artificial scarcity, FOMO, pre-orders over working content approach. If it is worth putting out there, then keep making it available. If not? Don’t bother.
It's not really limited if CE bundle appears in the crown store when chapter becomes a DLCNone of us is getting any younger, you know.
Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event. > https://nairinhe.github.io/
...All true adventures include some deep bruises and frantic screaming, right?is Fennorian a light source?PC EU - EP
Annarath - Dunmer stamblade. Hero, thief, murderer. Of House Dres by blood, raised by Khajiit and Argonian people.
Norra Storfjallet - a mountain range Nord frostwarden. Must. Protect. Everyone. Found out that world is bigger than dad's farm.
Soothing-Paws Habasi - Khajiit healplar. Grandma you wish you had, but Annarath ain't sharing.
Serpentina Scintilla - Imperial magcro. If she said she's from Tharn family, even Tharn family would believe.
Gentle-Like-Snow - Argonian healblade. When she grows up she wants to be like Fennorian, but vampirism is a questionable first step.
Nuada Vendresi - Dunmer fire DK. Annarath's brother. Our mistakes shape us in most peculiar ways.
