Massive dps and sustain issues

OWLTHEMAD

Just coming back to the game as a magblade after months of hiatus playing another game.

My dps has tanked and i feel that sustain is the reason.

I keep having to heavy attack during a parse.

Im parsing on 3 and 6 mil.

I do this to test self sufficiency.

Prior to leaving i at most had to heavy attack once on a 3 mil during a sloppy parse.

Maybe twice on a 6 mil.

Now i just blow through magicka like its nothing.

I see the rotation has changed on alcast and have tried his way with no improvements.

Any heavy hitters want to share some wisdom?

I used to hit 44k (46k on a good parse) and am currently lucky to get 36. With some practice i might be able to get back to 40 but this is too much of a drop.

Any help would be appreciated.

zvavi

I don't know how long ago it was. So can't provide much pointers, check liko parses and skill durations in general I guess

OWLTHEMAD

Well im doing that. I reapply everything on cooldown. I use the explosion on unstable wall as a visual q to reapply and space things out a bit to not over apply the things on different timers.

I just cant sustain it and thats the problem.

Im not sure what changed as i dont beleive that much did between dragonhold and harrowstorm. (Istopped in dragonhold)

I legit have no idea why im failing so hard.

John_Falstaff

@OWLTHEMAD , since you're parsing on 3mil, just as a sanity check - do you provide own ele drain and use parse food (max magicka + magicka regen)?

carlos424

John_Falstaff wrote: »

@OWLTHEMAD , since you're parsing on 3mil, just as a sanity check - do you provide own ele drain and use parse food (max magicka + magicka regen)?

Ele drain for sure. Parse food on 3m is kinda cheating : )

OWLTHEMAD

Typically run eledrain or debilitate morph of cripple for that. And i typically run witchmothers.

I didnt have a problem with it before.

Foefaller

Only thing I can suggest being fairly new is to look over the patch notes for the major update(s) you missed and see if anything pops out.

Make sure you look at sets too, since they're doing passes at standardizing the formulas used to determine effects, might be one of the ones you were using got a recovery or restore effect that was tweaked into line with the norm.

OWLTHEMAD

Yeah i had been keeping up with it and i just dont know. The nightblade rotation is difficult to begin with, more so now then in times past so i might just need to tighten everything up. Though looking at the new rotations for magblade those are just. . . Weird.

I dont know. Its kind of upsetting but i may just need to hardcore practice the rotation.

zvavi

OWLTHEMAD wrote: »

I dont know. Its kind of upsetting but i may just need to hardcore practice the rotation.

Neh, practicing rotation is fine. Practicing rotation when this[snip] server lags during non prime time with skills not firing so you can't get used to the [snip] rotation because you have to use every skill[snip] twice, that's what's annoying.

Apologies had to get that out of my system.

[edited for profanity]

John_Falstaff

carlos424 wrote: »

John_Falstaff wrote: »

@OWLTHEMAD , since you're parsing on 3mil, just as a sanity check - do you provide own ele drain and use parse food (max magicka + magicka regen)?

Ele drain for sure. Parse food on 3m is kinda cheating : )

Not really, because you're trying to emulate a group PvE setting. Sure, if you intend to do some solo stuff? Okay. But if you're in a group, you have shards/orbs, you have other synergies, you have Symphony, you have Hollowfang, you have Worm/Hircine and whatnot. So you know you'll have the kind of sustain the parse food provides if you're in a more or less organized group.

@OWLTHEMAD , depending on how much time you've been away for, you might've missed some sustain swings, including the old change that gave cost to bow proc (it costs half the skill cast now instead of being free). Plus your damage dropped because the class lost Minor Berserk buff. Generally, I don't find it useful anymore to parse on 3mil/6mil because of big difference in self-buffs available to different classes (except maybe when I want to see how much will I do during certain mechanics when I'm away from the group), just parse on iron atro, it'll give you a better idea of what you'll be capable of in organized group.

OWLTHEMAD

I havent been away thqt long lol. Just started mhw after finishing the story of dragonhold. And am only just coming back. So what ever it was was between then and dragonhold.

I often parse on both but cant stand iron atro because of time commitment. If im testing a change in my rotation id rather spend 1 minute and change not 5 minutes and change.

Tested on iron atro btw and was getting 58k.

I used to get 68k.

This time sustain wasnt an issue so im at a loss.