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The normal NPC vampires have a bat-swarm teleport and many more amazing abilities we don't get.

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I literally cannot believe this. AND AND.....the abilities look so GOOD the animations are AMAZING.



Take a gander at this video. Yes. I time-stamped it for you all so you can see what the **Normal** vampire NPCs got in terms of abilities. Time stamp isn't working for some reason, but the NPC abilities start at: 2:07

Yup that's right. They get a BAT SWARM TELEPORT. Ranged blood magic, a healing siphon that lifts people up in the air, the natural ability to summon swarms of bats, the ability to create a clone of themselves that explodes in a big shadow-y ball of blood, and their SCION FORM has access to ranged blood magic.

Are we sure they didn't mix up what was supposed to get what? Seriously, look at this video. These abilities look freaking SICK.

You can argue that blah blah blah different bloodline blah blah, but they *could* of given us these as new abilities since we knew nothing about this new bloodline (if it even is a new bloodline).

I am astounded. Any word on this @ZOS_GinaBruno? Why do the normal NPC vampires get these cool nicely animated really fleshed out skills and we don't?
Edited by Noxavian on April 24, 2020 2:47AM
  • Paradisius
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    Wow. I would really love to use that shadow creature that seems to either be healing or buffing the vampire, and that shadow clone and blood magic make me so envious. I am surprised we got none of these abilities.
  • Noxavian
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    Paradisius wrote: »
    Wow. I would really love to use that shadow creature that seems to either be healing or buffing the vampire, and that shadow clone and blood magic make me so envious. I am surprised we got none of these abilities.

    Yup. I would love to use literally every single thing I saw on this video.

    Especially the bat swarm teleport. Please. Also they turned the old bat swarm into a normal AoE ability for the NPCs and I would LOVe that as a vampire too.... Instead of summoning around the caster they fly in this huge area.

  • Michaelkeir
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    I feel the same about playable necromancers vs npc necromancers.

    Those are some sweet looking powers they have. Love that ground based bat swarm. Would make a great aoe to go along with out single target slash. That drain is SICK looking. Wish ours looked that cool.
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    Well, this makes me sad.
  • Vevvev
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    Wow, those NPC vampires get such awesome abilities and a pet summon.... like.... the thing some people wanted. Also that cloud of bats ability looks absolutely amazing.
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  • Noxavian
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    Vevvev wrote: »
    Wow, those NPC vampires get such awesome abilities and a pet summon.... like.... the thing some people wanted. Also that cloud of bats ability looks absolutely amazing.

    YES. The cloud of bats AoE ground ability looks so cool and the pet along with the bat swarm teleport..... All things players wanted....I think they might of mixed up who got the rework. (:
  • esp1992
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    Ok, after seeing those abilities compared to the ones we’re getting, NOW I’M PISSED!
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  • Noxavian
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    esp1992 wrote: »
    Ok, after seeing those abilities compared to the ones we’re getting, NOW I’M PISSED!

    SAME. They are so cool!
  • Carylas
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    I wish they gave exclusive skills for us to use in Blood Scion form and its morphs, just like the WWs have. Using regular weapons in that mode takes away all the epicness and coolness IMO.

    NPC vampire skills look amazing. How hard would it be to give a bat-themed gap closer to vampires similar to the Sorcerer's Bolt Escape? Or even maybe a teleport skill which Nightblades got with the Shadow Image morph.

    I also like the bone spike attack of the enemy necromancer.
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    If they want Vampire dps to be a thing they need a AoE/Dot ability (that actually does damage) some of these would be good.
  • Noxavian
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    Carylas wrote: »
    I wish they gave exclusive skills for us to use in Blood Scion form and its morphs, just like the WWs have. Using regular weapons in that mode takes away all the epicness and coolness IMO.

    NPC vampire skills look amazing. How hard would it be to give a bat-themed gap closer to vampires similar to the Sorcerer's Bolt Escape? Or even maybe a teleport skill which Nightblades got with the Shadow Image morph.

    I also like the bone spike attack of the enemy necromancer.

    Can very much agree with every aspect of what you said!

    And the wackest thing is my friend the NPCs get a bat-themed gap closer. But we don't. They also get a teleport shadow-clone skill. (:

    And yeah the bone spike attack was actually originally going to be an ability of the necromancer, but oops guess they didnt like it. (it was in the concept art for the bone tyrant line)
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    Narvuntien wrote: »
    If they want Vampire dps to be a thing they need a AoE/Dot ability (that actually does damage) some of these would be good.

    Exactly! Almost all of these skills would be useful to vampires.
  • Ulthlian
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    Well, obviously, Lamae is trolling us :D
    These abilities look SICK! Bat swarm teleport and siphon especially :|
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    I have to admit, when you put them side by side like that, the player vampire abilities do look very underwhelming. At the very least they need some proper sound effects, because right now it just looks and feels super weird.
    The only thing in their toolkit that looks great is probably the AOE stun effect. The conal one makes you look like you're throwing butterflies into the air like some kind of woodland fairy.
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    Ulthlian wrote: »
    Well, obviously, Lamae is trolling us :D
    These abilities look SICK! Bat swarm teleport and siphon especially :|

    YES CAN AGREE! Make your words known, give more feedback on the official thread for it. If we can get enough people that want these skills, we might be able to get a few of them.
  • Noxavian
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    I have to admit, when you put them side by side like that, the player vampire abilities do look very underwhelming. At the very least they need some proper sound effects, because right now it just looks and feels super weird.
    The only thing in their toolkit that looks great is probably the AOE stun effect. The conal one makes you look like you're throwing butterflies into the air like some kind of woodland fairy.

    Exactly my man. They look mega underwhelming in comparison. I'd argue they need a bit more than proper sound effects, they need better animations that are on the same level as the AoE stun effect. And can agree the cone one looks very weird.

    How do you think vampire players are going to feel fighting these NORMAL (cant emphasis that enough, these aren't in a dungeon, these aren't special....they're just normal. What are we then? Not a vampire like them, I guess.) vampires and unable to do *literally any* of the cool stuff they can?
  • Cameron991
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    Yes these are amazing!! And I feel like you can easily implement this zos :) we are all huge vampire fans who have been waiting 6 years for a way to immerse ourselves as a vampire and these npc have just that. I’m glad with the work you all have done but the abilities these npc have are honestly what I think us vampires have wanted to see. I think we would all be fine if you just put these abilities into the blood scion form like ww and we would be the happiest vampire community. you all designed the perfect looking vampire for npc please let us use those in vamp lord form at least and keep what we have now as normal skills. If you did this I think the 20% cost reduction for non vamp skills won’t be bad bc we would be able to build a full vamp build, like I’m sure we all want to do!! Please listen to us Zos. This vampire stuff you are doing is beautiful so please let us be apart of that beauty :) please and thank you!
    Edited by Cameron991 on April 24, 2020 8:23AM
  • Sephyr
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    Noxavian wrote: »
    I literally cannot believe this. AND AND.....the abilities look so GOOD the animations are AMAZING.



    Take a gander at this video. Yes. I time-stamped it for you all so you can see what the **Normal** vampire NPCs got in terms of abilities. Time stamp isn't working for some reason, but the NPC abilities start at: 2:07

    Yup that's right. They get a BAT SWARM TELEPORT. Ranged blood magic, a healing siphon that lifts people up in the air, the natural ability to summon swarms of bats, the ability to create a clone of themselves that explodes in a big shadow-y ball of blood, and their SCION FORM has access to ranged blood magic.

    Are we sure they didn't mix up what was supposed to get what? Seriously, look at this video. These abilities look freaking SICK.

    You can argue that blah blah blah different bloodline blah blah, but they *could* of given us these as new abilities since we knew nothing about this new bloodline (if it even is a new bloodline).

    I am astounded. Any word on this @ZOS_GinaBruno? Why do the normal NPC vampires get these cool nicely animated really fleshed out skills and we don't?

    Because we got Todd Howarded.
  • Noxavian
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    Cameron991 wrote: »
    Yes these are amazing!! And I feel like you can easily implement this zos :) we are all huge vampire fans who have been waiting 6 years for a way to immerse ourselves as a vampire and these npc have just that. I’m glad with the work you all have done but the abilities these npc have are honestly what I think us vampires have wanted to see. I think we would all be fine if you just put these abilities into the blood scion form like ww and we would be the happiest vampire community. you all designed the perfect looking vampire for npc please let us use those in vamp lord form at least and keep what we have now as normal skills. If you did this I think the 20% cost reduction for non vamp skills won’t be bad bc we would be able to build a full vamp build, like I’m sure we all want to do!! Please listen to us Zos. This vampire stuff you are doing is beautiful so please let us be apart of that beauty :) please and thank you!

    I implore you to check out the most recent poll I posted!
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