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Asylum Destro Staff change

Olupajmibanan
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Perfected version now also has the 3 Force Shocks condition just as the non-perfect. How is this supposed to be of any help?

State of Perfect Asylum Destro staff before was: shining on magDK but still usable by anyone else.
Now you made it: usable by magDK but useless on anyone else.
  • DarkPicture
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    3 cast for proc isnt worth for magdks too
  • Inklings
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    Concentrated Force:
    The perfected version of this set no longer has a unique value, and instead grants up to 103 Spell Damage.


    This is horrible. Its taking away the situations were this weapon actually shined, which was VERY limited. The non perfected version should have been moved down to 2 casts to make it relevant. Not the other way around. =/
  • flacidstone
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    So for magdks I guess fg/ms will be the meta over elfbane and asylum inferno?
  • karekiz
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    ZoS:

    So you liked playing Mag DK did you?

    I agree that the Perfected 2 set bonuses should be merged into the normal, with a bonus stat value.
  • Firstmep
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    That DSA destro staff though lol 600 spell dmg lol wtf.
  • flacidstone
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    Right
  • flacidstone
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    Where do we feel this leaves mdk and even elf bane?
  • Olupajmibanan
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    My biggest problem with the change is that instead of increased build diversity which this patch was supposed to do with the arena weapon upgrades we get decreased build diversity. If you are not a magDK, Perfect Asylum Destro is now a decon item.
  • carlos424
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    Inklings wrote: »
    Concentrated Force:
    The perfected version of this set no longer has a unique value, and instead grants up to 103 Spell Damage.


    This is horrible. Its taking away the situations were this weapon actually shined, which was VERY limited. The non perfected version should have been moved down to 2 casts to make it relevant. Not the other way around. =/

    Exactly. You already have to sacrifice a second set in order to run this staff. It was barely worth running the perfected version, and then only on a couple of setups. Probably not worth running now. I guess magdk still, but sustain will suffer, not to mention damage...... “grants up to 103 spell damage”. Lol. Really? For the perfected version? What’s the point of that?
    Some of the pts changes are ok I guess, but they are really minimizing the endgame players.
    Edited by carlos424 on April 20, 2020 9:02PM
  • flacidstone
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    So I’m on Xbox and currently trying to gear a mag dk but for the sake of transmute crystals, what set up do I take now? Was going elf bane asylum fg but is that dead now?
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    Why are they making rewards from harder content lackluster, when it should be the opposite. If this is the way of narrowing the so-called skill gap, they're going about it the wrong way. People will get their shiny skin and never step foot there again.
    Edited by Jaimeh on April 20, 2020 8:29PM
  • ELawlis
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    I really hope this is given a second look and the current perfected proc is put on non-perfected. A nerf to Elfbane effecting Zaan was bound to happen, but there’s no reason the asylum staff should be gutted as well.
  • code65536
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    Imperfect Asylum destro was basically worthless. Ever since Asylum's release, the normal version was effectively not worth using. Only the Perfected version was.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam Normal should be every 2, like Perfected.
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  • frozzzen101
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    Yeah, non perfected version really should go to 2 casts instead. Not really happy with devaluing high end items in general with normal mode ones, but even with MagDKs aside, it also completely ruins the staff for any and all pvp purposes. Really hope they reconsider.
  • colossalvoids
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    Well seems like two of my sorcs and magdk going on hiatus with this change, gg zos. Why having different builds if we all can be just the same, right?
  • Sanguinor2
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    I knew magdk was getting either a direct or an indirect nerf now that it dared to be on top of the pve dps Food chain.
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  • carlos424
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    So I’m on Xbox and currently trying to gear a mag dk but for the sake of transmute crystals, what set up do I take now? Was going elf bane asylum fg but is that dead now?
    Na, it will still be good, assuming grothdar still works with elfbane. I messed around with regular asylum inferno and its about 3-4k less dps than perfected. Of course, that was also with zaan still working with elfbane.
  • flacidstone
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    carlos424 wrote: »
    So I’m on Xbox and currently trying to gear a mag dk but for the sake of transmute crystals, what set up do I take now? Was going elf bane asylum fg but is that dead now?
    Na, it will still be good, assuming grothdar still works with elfbane. I messed around with regular asylum inferno and its about 3-4k less dps than perfected. Of course, that was also with zaan still working with elfbane.

    Thanks. I mean like said about elfbane is mainly for parses I feel and the new illambris change could also be interesting.
  • WrathOfInnos
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    The bug fix was honestly a good thing, to not proc several ticks of Burning simultaneously. Adding a 1pc Perfected bonus would have been enough to counter the fix/nerf and make it viable without being overpowered.

    The changing of the proc from every 2 casts to every 3 is completely unnecessary and makes the set worthless for every build.

    I also don’t understand why the new Perfected bonuses do not follow the set bonus standard. Wouldn’t 129 Spell Damage (like every other set in the game) make more sense than 103?
  • Vildebill
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    Haha talk about destroying a good weapon. If they don't change it so that both has 2 casts the staff is decon fodder.
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  • Vaoh
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    It’s hard to tell. Instead of writing out the tooltips, they only tell us bullet point notes for changes.

    For example, will both versions require 2 or 3 Force Shock casts to proc the Asylum Destro? Does the Master Destro get a free Spell Damage for 4sec buff or was the Initial Damage increase sacrificed?

    No way to know based on the wording. Need to have people on PTS see.
  • Olupajmibanan
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    It’s hard to tell. Instead of writing out the tooltips, they only tell us bullet point notes for changes.

    For example, will both versions require 2 or 3 Force Shock casts to proc the Asylum Destro? Does the Master Destro get a free Spell Damage for 4sec buff or was the Initial Damage increase sacrificed?

    No way to know based on the wording. Need to have people on PTS see.

    In other words, hope dies last, you say?

    We will wait than till someone posts here a screenshot of Concentrated Force set bonus.
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    Firstmep wrote: »
    That DSA destro staff though lol 600 spell dmg lol wtf.

    on a spammable skill that stuns :open_mouth:
  • Olupajmibanan
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    RIP then. Even the time frame between each cast has been reduced hasn't it? I remember it being 10 seconds.
    Edited by Olupajmibanan on April 20, 2020 9:22PM
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    Rip. My pack mules are going to run out of space with all of the gear being retired.
  • Nicalas
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    You guys are forgetting the "Fix" the current PTS version only proc's half the combustion as the non perfect version on live.
    Edited by Nicalas on April 21, 2020 1:35AM
  • CleymenZero
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    Perfected version now also has the 3 Force Shocks condition just as the non-perfect. How is this supposed to be of any help?

    State of Perfect Asylum Destro staff before was: shining on magDK but still usable by anyone else.
    Now you made it: usable by magDK but useless on anyone else.

    Not even usable on magdk actually. You're better off with a charged staff and a monster set if we're only talking burning uptimes...
  • Red_Feather
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    Really weird nerf. I knew of nobody that would use this.
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    RIP then. Even the time frame between each cast has been reduced hasn't it? I remember it being 10 seconds.

    Yikes. That might make hurt even more. You used to be able to stop force pulse for a crystal frags proc or to handle a mechanic or something. Now you pretty much have to do 3 force pulses in a row or you are really cutting it close for letting the status effects buff fall off.
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