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Necro and warden too tanky
Karmanorway
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And since we dont like nerfs i am only going to ask for buffs.
Buff wep dmg by 50% to every class (except warden and necro) permanently against necros and Wardens.
And to everyone that say necro and Wardens suck, maybe go take a few BGs, 90% necros and wardens. Try kill a necro 1vs1 and see how that goes 🙃
Edited by Karmanorway on April 16, 2020 12:24PM Buff wep dmg by 50% to every class (except warden and necro) permanently against necros and Wardens.
And to everyone that say necro and Wardens suck, maybe go take a few BGs, 90% necros and wardens. Try kill a necro 1vs1 and see how that goes 🙃
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Everest_Lionheart✭✭✭✭✭As a warden if I mess up and don’t keep my green lotus and bull netch up I can basically be one shot. Crystal slab can sometimes Buy me a few seconds but not if one of your team mates shows up. It’s basically a max window of 20 seconds where you can go full ham 1v1 without much impunity but realistically it’s really a window of max15 seconds because you have to get back around your rotation To get those skills back up and there are delays in casting with some of them. So that 3 skills with 2 bar swaps plus any dots that need to be re upped in that time.
I usually get caught re upping the dots when when the green lotus goes down which really leaves me in a world of trouble then I’ll miss the cast because I am roll dodging something and ended up dead. That the life of a stamina warden. You can kill with impunity for 15 seconds but can be crushed like a bug in 3 if you make an error.3 -
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✭✭✭Karmanorway wrote: »And since we dont like nerfs i am only going to ask for buffs.
Buff wep dmg by 50% to every class (except warden and necro) permanently against necros and Wardens.
And to everyone that say necro and Wardens suck, maybe go take a few BGs, 90% necros and wardens. Try kill a necro 1vs1 and see how that goes 🙃
I kill Necro's and warden's on my Magdk one v one all the time. Putting the shoe on the other foot I am often killed by other players on my stamcro one vs one. My Warden is a bow/bow build and not utilised to her full potential
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I think they are in a good place... maybe necro should have minor defile rather than major, but that is all imo.
I actually find that magsorc's are 90% of BG's. I don't think they need a stealthy nerf though
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✭✭✭And around we go. Last time it was the DKs who were too tanky and nobody could ever kill them. Before that it was sorcs and their shields. Sometimes you're the top dog, other times you're just the dog. You got to learn to live with it.9 -
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✭Each class has their own unique way of defence. Templar has a lot of healing in its toolkit, sorc has shields. If one of these mechanics gets nerfed, it only hits one class. Necro's shine in % damage reduction. Maybe this needs a tweak.
But, I like your proposal for buffing damage. If nightblades can't even gank a unbuffed sorc, something is wrong. I believe the fairest way to get rid of the tank meta is to remove (reduce) damage reduction from battle spirit, since it hits all classes equal, as opposed to buffing or nerfing defensive mechanisms.0 -
Zardayne✭✭✭✭✭I'm assuming OPs complaining about stamden (which op has) since my magden feels quite a bit different...
Try playing a magden in CP Cyrodiil and see how many you kill one on one. Sure I can build semi tanky but hell I've got to as I have to wait for 3 seconds for shalks to go off (while you've done rolled around and positioned out of the line of fire), double cast fetcher infection so I can do decent DOT damage and increase your damage taken, all the while I'm lashing you with my wet noodle of either force pulse or the super slow (and easily avoidable) cliff racer. Are there a few folks that can make a magden work decent, certainly but for the most part their hoping some unskilled folks take a whole Northern storm to the face while shalks miraculously hits. So to give everyone against me a 50% damage buff is absurd!0 -
Mortiis13✭✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »Karmanorway wrote: »And since we dont like nerfs i am only going to ask for buffs.
Buff wep dmg by 50% to every class (except warden and necro) permanently against necros and Wardens.
And to everyone that say necro and Wardens suck, maybe go take a few BGs, 90% necros and wardens. Try kill a necro 1vs1 and see how that goes 🙃
I kill Necro's and warden's on my Magdk one v one all the time. Putting the shoe on the other foot I am often killed by other players on my stamcro one vs one. My Warden is a bow/bow build and not utilised to her full potential.
I think they are in a good place... maybe necro should have minor defile rather than major, but that is all imo.
I actually find that magsorc's are 90% of BG's. I don't think they need a stealthy nerf though
Major defile is okay.
The problem is u can apply minor defile as well with Blastbones, this and the cp to increase defile makes it to much in my opinion.0 -
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✭✭HP% heals are good for the game, that is why NB dark cloak got toned down and other classes have to invest in healing...
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Tbh. I only like the "theme" of the warden...My 2 favorite classes.
...I don't like the fact that it is performing better than original 4 launch classes.
Nerco ? Not my pair of shoes when it comes to power fantasy. But being totally honest, Necro is THE REASON why so many times we see "pls buff NB" threads.
ZSO had to push the sales of Nerco and they did not wanted to make it way too P2W (just a little tiny bit). So what did they do ? The wrecked NB class (most similar base class when it comes to power - fantasy).
That is a crime I will never forgive, and as a result I will probably just keep "hating" necro with passion. Not gonna call for nerfs pointless though - but if some will happen, I won't lie - it will bring a smile on my face.
Pretty much this.Pay to win classes ...
They have the best major buffs and debuffs almost at no cost.
You get subscription for free ? When did that happen ?
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justaquickword✭✭✭✭Great idea, just keep buffing everything.
I'm sure that will help with the power creep in the game.
What we all really want to see are more threads on that subject.
Good Times.0
