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Rename Karthwatch to Snowhawk [Greymoor]

TheRimOfTheSky
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There's an new village upcoming in Greymoor found in the south part of the zone, where Broken Tower Redoubt was in Tes V called Karthwatch
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I think it's quite obvious that Karthwatch is not so creatively derived from the nearby Karthwasten, which according to the map would be found just across the bridge, best case scenario the town is just named after the river or valley itself. I mean, there's literally a 3-letter difference, if the devs wanted to add a Karthwasten settlement then they shoulda added it under the same name and location, not as some sort of copy that fulfills the same thing while appearing to be different.

I propose the town's name should be changed to Snowhawk, one of the very first known city-states Skyrim ever, being around since 1994. Take a look at the Arena map, Karthwatch is literally in the exact location that is already:
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Changing the name would help connect lore and continuity between games, and avoid any confusion between Karthwatch and Karthwasten. It would be way better to use original Arena lore rather than create something based very poorly off of a re-used settlement from Tes V, and Snowhawk is a much cooler name with its bird of prey, eagle-frost imagery to begin with, just check out its Arena intro quote:

."We bid you enter Snowhawk, where the wind is as sharp as its talons and as fierce as its name..."

Snowhawk might've appeared as a fort in but it never got the treatment it deserved as a proper settlement in Skyrim, ESO has a chance to change that. Hope you all agree and that the devs change this before launch
Edited by TheRimOfTheSky on April 9, 2020 9:30AM
  • karthrag_inak
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    This one had nothing to do with this village's name. And finds the entire concept somewhat disturbing.

    Stop staring at this one!
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  • Aliyavana
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    Please do, give arena lore justice
  • xclassgaming
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    Yes. Do it zos.
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  • Enodoc
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    I hope you can actually see the Karth River from there, as then the name would at least be valid, otherwise it would be incorrect anyway.

    But I do like the idea of bringing Snowhawk-the-Settlement back in basically the right place, so I would definitely agree to the suggestion. Hopefully it has absolutely no dialogue, otherwise it's too late.
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  • Aliyavana
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    Enodoc wrote: »
    I hope you can actually see the Karth River from there, as then the name would at least be valid, otherwise it would be incorrect anyway.

    But I do like the idea of bringing Snowhawk-the-Settlement back in basically the right place, so I would definitely agree to the suggestion. Hopefully it has absolutely no dialogue, otherwise it's too late.

    Maybe they could call it snow hawk in lore books as a work around
  • TheRimOfTheSky
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    With the Snowhawk Mage style mentioned as soon being available from Summerset Coffers during the Summerset Celebration, it seems we will have some level of mention for Snowhawk.

    I do hope they explain explain what the story behind the Snowhawk Mages is instead of it just being limited to outfit style pages with no text, or that they have something confirming Karthwatch and as the same/linked settlement. Very glad they are doing at least this, as it's probably way too late to rename Karthwatch entirely, and Snowhawk could be an alternate/future name.
  • Glurin
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    Or maybe Karthwatch is destroyed and Snowhawk built on the ashes at some point in the 700ish years between now and when Arena takes place.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."
  • Enodoc
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    Glurin wrote: »
    Or maybe Karthwatch is destroyed and Snowhawk built on the ashes at some point in the 700ish years between now and when Arena takes place.
    Now that we've had a chance to test the questline on PTS, this is likely. Karthwatch isn't really in an extant state by the end of it.
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