JumpmanLane wrote: »People who support this game in its current state aren't ACTUALLY playing the game. They are standing around tallking to other folks or picking flowers or role playing or doing dolmens or something. THEY ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME ON ANY KIND OF HIGH LEVEL. That much must be made clear.
They are not in Cyro PvPing. They are not in vTrials pushing leader boards. They are not doing vDungeons, particularly DLC ones. ZOS can possibly make some money off of people NOT playing their game,
Curious_Death wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »People who support this game in its current state aren't ACTUALLY playing the game. They are standing around tallking to other folks or picking flowers or role playing or doing dolmens or something. THEY ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME ON ANY KIND OF HIGH LEVEL. That much must be made clear.
They are not in Cyro PvPing. They are not in vTrials pushing leader boards. They are not doing vDungeons, particularly DLC ones. ZOS can possibly make some money off of people NOT playing their game, but for every new person that buys this game, ZOS runs the risk of alienating: as soon as a new player actually gets good at the game, reaches endgame and plays it at a high level, ALL OF THE BUGS hit them in the face.
ZOS mentioned in their announcements concerning testing the changes to light and heavy attacks that the climb was steep and most didnt enjoy the climb. How much is any new player going to enjoy "the climb" when once they reach the mountain top the game stops working lol.
Well I am going to call you on that bulls***t.
I spent all my time yesterday in a number of vet HM DLC dungeons. They all worked perfectly well. No disconnects, no desyncs nothing like that at all. I played with players from around Europe and Africa.
Today I’ll be back in them and vet trials. Looking forward to it.
Maybe you can’t do this content, which is sad for you, but it’s out there working. You don’t want to play,? Jump off man.
wow then u confirm how UNSTABLE servers is! THX!
coz i played on EU PC i have got few bugs:
1) My brother yesterday had 9 loading screens.. in 10 min in cyrodiil at home keep when we tried to run to resource! well done!
2) *my hero dont light attack sometimes or heavy attack - when i hold mouse button for heavy attack my hero stats shaking and do nothing ... and this sounds - repeating 50% of his attack sound... WEIRD
3)Weapon cannot be swapped... - crap!
4)I stucked at breakfree - i cant use skills - i run around ... and i can break free every second - not being stunned - untill stamina ends.
5)When i fire bow heavy attack - an arrow fired.. nothing happens and my hero stuck in bow heavy attack animation.
6)I got stunned (26k stamina left) i cannot break free untill i got killed (SO MUCH FUN!)
7)I got stunned - used breakfree > FEARED > breakfree > stunned (within 4-5 sec!)!? cant break free ofc.
8)I got stunned and i didnt breakfree... i used roll-dodge > i glided on the ground still moving (stunned) and get up without problem (that was fun )
9)I got strange freeze(1-2 sec) in fight (60 fps) then got stunned (again freeze untill i got killed)
10)I was fighting with friend for fun - killed him (didnt wanted to end that way) with one LA - coz his hp was cutted in 1 sec for 20k of delayed DMG!
11)I was running from couple of players... i used shield + rapid regen.. then turned around... one light attack killed me ... again a desync? (with shield on!)
12)I was tanking > so holding block > then got killed coz - idk why my hero stop holding block??? > i figured out that u needs to watch if ur hero dont stop blocking and release mouse button then hold it again to block... (soo much fun with all this animation block bug effects!)
Thanks for your list of meaningless anecdotes.
JumpmanLane wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »People who support this game in its current state aren't ACTUALLY playing the game. They are standing around tallking to other folks or picking flowers or role playing or doing dolmens or something. THEY ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME ON ANY KIND OF HIGH LEVEL. That much must be made clear.
They are not in Cyro PvPing. They are not in vTrials pushing leader boards. They are not doing vDungeons, particularly DLC ones. ZOS can possibly make some money off of people NOT playing their game, but for every new person that buys this game, ZOS runs the risk of alienating: as soon as a new player actually gets good at the game, reaches endgame and plays it at a high level, ALL OF THE BUGS hit them in the face.
ZOS mentioned in their announcements concerning testing the changes to light and heavy attacks that the climb was steep and most didnt enjoy the climb. How much is any new player going to enjoy "the climb" when once they reach the mountain top the game stops working lol.
Well I am going to call you on that bulls***t.
I spent all my time yesterday in a number of vet HM DLC dungeons. They all worked perfectly well. No disconnects, no desyncs nothing like that at all. I played with players from around Europe and Africa.
Today I’ll be back in them and vet trials. Looking forward to it.
Maybe you can’t do this content, which is sad for you, but it’s out there working. You don’t want to play,? Jump off man.
I’m a Grade 2 Grand Overlord and l PvP EVERYDAY. PCNA and I’m in America. I got fiber optic internet. I play on a gaming rig WELL over spec for this game.
Say what you want to say. White Knight all you want to: THIS GAME IS BROKEN....ZOS admits that. Why can’t you? Lol.
Possibly because it isn’t?
It was genuinely non-functional for a while on Monday when the PC EU server crashed and had to be ‘maintained’. But yesterday it was working perfectly in vet DLC dungeon content for the entire evening.
I don’t know about PC NA, it seemed OK when I popped over when PC EU was down...
You might want to redefine your notion of ‘broken’.
ZOS said it themselves when "declining " to fix certain bugs in the past: They don't affect the majority of the play base because the majority of the play base isn't playing the game on a high enough level to notice. PvE or PvP. The better you get at the game the worse it plays. Period.
Yes, that is certainly how it is - I think as well that most are quite content with being just mediocre at the game and enjoy playing it like this. Overland content isn't difficult and can well be played with mediocre skills. A lot do not play the way you play it as well - some are playing the markets instead of the game and have fun doing that, some like even fishing and catching all the rare fish in the game and so. There is more than just combat in this game - a lot more. I even saw quite a few just walking around looking for nice motives for photography. ESO is a work of art - I don't take pictures, but I enjoy walking around (as in neither riding nor running) and just take in the scenery.
Lately I roamed around in older regions and recognized how much the art work of the game has improved in new zones compared to some of the older ones. These are things to appreciate as well, not just combat and competitive gameplay - ESO so much more than this.
JumpmanLane wrote: »People who support this game in its current state aren't ACTUALLY playing the game. They are standing around tallking to other folks or picking flowers or role playing or doing dolmens or something. THEY ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME ON ANY KIND OF HIGH LEVEL. That much must be made clear.
Salix_alba wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »People who support this game in its current state aren't ACTUALLY playing the game. They are standing around tallking to other folks or picking flowers or role playing or doing dolmens or something. THEY ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME ON ANY KIND OF HIGH LEVEL. That much must be made clear.
this is patently false especially to assume it about everyone
Salix_alba wrote: »@JumpmanLane as much as id like to repost the quote again just re-read it I don't think you understand what I meant by 'you' specifically assuming this about everyone and honestly if you don't get that while its not just you (its also not not everyone else) that is where i have a problem.
Lots of people are actually playing the game and enjoying it i did not say there weren't any problems in the game there are and they are annoying but I at least still have fun playing the game I pvp, I pve, I craft and i even farm from time to time and I enjoy doing it I even go into dungeons vet and otherwise with friends and while I can take or leave dungeons thats just me
It is very insulting to read these posts that claim every single one of us is hating on something. and specifically you saying we aren't playing the game we are just fooling around I do take that personally. No we're playing no matter what that is and I dont rp but those people are playing also whats wrong with people making their own fun the fact that you can do that is a great thing about this game
I see you removed the quote on your end but you are still insulting a large part of the player base saying most people are mediocre. I think that's pathetic they made this game for people to have fun not to be elitist pricks.
oh yeah BTW I am not mediocre I am awesome.
Curious_Death wrote: »Curious_Death wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »Wow just realized it's been 9 months since I played. When is that deleting of cold accounts supposed to occur? I'm going to have to redownload and login before that happens.
Cold storage is not deleting accounts but putting them on a kind of backup server - and just pull it out, if the player returns.
and ... u believe it will works flawless ?
Well, I guess they will be able to put something from one server onto another without to delete it in the process - so yes.
just like after elsweyr release... non elsweyr accounts could make necromancer or like pts tested changes.... work flawless on live but yes... lets stay positive
There will be bugs like always -but I don't think they will loose account data - this is their income source and some players return after a long time, if the game is still there then - and ESO doesn't seem to go away anytime soon, despite the problems with cyro - most of the game works quite well. And if you believe it or not, the last 2 patches actually achieved some performance goals - at least for me it did.
Mist of the game does not work quite well. Trials are a mess, vet dungeons are partially unplayable, normal dungeons are slowly being infected, and forever loading screens in overland content coupled with abilities refusing to fire had reached overland as well. It's not nearly as bad as cyro, but this is exactly how it started there too..
The servers have reached their maximum capacity and calculation capacity. And the more changes , new sets, new dlc, new quests they introduce, the worse it's going to get. They need to replace the old server tech with new tech that can handle it, otherwise what we see in cyro, will be Overland's fate too eventually.
TheMightyRevan wrote: »if you try to do anything, that requires a fairly good performance youre just doomed. zos made everything worse, in pve and especially in pvp in the last months.
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JumpmanLane wrote: »People who support this game in its current state aren't ACTUALLY playing the game. They are standing around tallking to other folks or picking flowers or role playing or doing dolmens or something. THEY ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME ON ANY KIND OF HIGH LEVEL. That much must be made clear.
They are not in Cyro PvPing. They are not in vTrials pushing leader boards. They are not doing vDungeons, particularly DLC ones. ZOS can possibly make some money off of people NOT playing their game, but for every new person that buys this game, ZOS runs the risk of alienating them: as soon as a new player actually gets good at the game, reaches endgame and plays it at a high level, ALL OF THE BUGS hit them in the face.
Curious_Death wrote: »Curious_Death wrote: »Strider__Roshin wrote: »Wow just realized it's been 9 months since I played. When is that deleting of cold accounts supposed to occur? I'm going to have to redownload and login before that happens.
Cold storage is not deleting accounts but putting them on a kind of backup server - and just pull it out, if the player returns.
and ... u believe it will works flawless ?
Well, I guess they will be able to put something from one server onto another without to delete it in the process - so yes.
just like after elsweyr release... non elsweyr accounts could make necromancer or like pts tested changes.... work flawless on live but yes... lets stay positive
There will be bugs like always -but I don't think they will loose account data - this is their income source and some players return after a long time, if the game is still there then - and ESO doesn't seem to go away anytime soon, despite the problems with cyro - most of the game works quite well. And if you believe it or not, the last 2 patches actually achieved some performance goals - at least for me it did.
Mist of the game does not work quite well. Trials are a mess, vet dungeons are partially unplayable, normal dungeons are slowly being infected, and forever loading screens in overland content coupled with abilities refusing to fire had reached overland as well. It's not nearly as bad as cyro, but this is exactly how it started there too..
The servers have reached their maximum capacity and calculation capacity. And the more changes , new sets, new dlc, new quests they introduce, the worse it's going to get. They need to replace the old server tech with new tech that can handle it, otherwise what we see in cyro, will be Overland's fate too eventually.
Not sure I agree doomer.
Trials - vCR was working fine yesterday when I played it.
Vet dungeons - totally playable all through the day
Normal dungeons - totally playable all through the day
Group finder - seems to find it harder at ‘peak’ times to create instances for already formed groups and convey ready checks (which can be ‘resolved’ by quitting the queue and rejoining it)
Long loading screens - definitely here
Non-firing abilities - not experienced them
PC EU doesn’t deal well with large numbers of players in the same place. But that has been the situation for years. Every so often it will flip its lid and just throw everyone out on the street, 304 them and require a long lie down and a stiff rebooting.
Amazingly, PC NA seems to have none of these issues, presumably because fewer players play on it and it is ZOS’s favourite.
But with the servers it is hard to know whether it is a hardware issue (which can be resolved by integrating better hardware) or a software issue (which would not be resolved by simply having more/better hardware).