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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/696147/playstation-5-patch-error-issue
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/696147/playstation-5-patch-error-issue
Incap finally stuns again but not to make balance better
BohnT2
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So we got a change in an incremental patch that has been wanted for almost a year now after incap lost its stun and got an awkward silence.
Countless posts emerged saying it's a bad debuff and often becomes a detriment for the Nightblade.
But those post were ignored for all this time.
I haven't seen the Devs publicly stating that they absolutely don't care about our feedback this obvious since them saying casttimes aren't liked by the majority of the player base but they'll keep them.
And now they're telling us that the change only happened because the coding effort was too big to keep the silence in the game.
Now we can only pray that patches in the future make casttimes impossible so every single skill loses them and we once again have a somewhat reactive gameplay in pvp
Edited by BohnT2 on March 16, 2020 8:15PM Countless posts emerged saying it's a bad debuff and often becomes a detriment for the Nightblade.
But those post were ignored for all this time.
I haven't seen the Devs publicly stating that they absolutely don't care about our feedback this obvious since them saying casttimes aren't liked by the majority of the player base but they'll keep them.
And now they're telling us that the change only happened because the coding effort was too big to keep the silence in the game.
Now we can only pray that patches in the future make casttimes impossible so every single skill loses them and we once again have a somewhat reactive gameplay in pvp
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L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭I am very happy with that. Finally that ultimate is usefull against Staminatargets again.
The ingame description still says silence though, I wonder if they *** it up already.Edited by L_Nici on March 16, 2020 12:51PMPC|EU0 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
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Donny_Vito✭✭✭✭✭
✭And now they're telling us that the change only happened because the coding effort was too big to keep the silence in the game.
Can you link that source for me? I want to read that. Thanks.1 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Feels good knowing that the only way to get rid of a bad mechanic is if it causes severe coding issues with some other in-game mechanic.
Let´s pray that the cast time on the skill causes some sever coding malfunction in a not so distant future and we might get that reverted as well
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BohnT2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Donny_Vito wrote: »And now they're telling us that the change only happened because the coding effort was too big to keep the silence in the game.
Can you link that source for me? I want to read that. Thanks.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516606/pc-mac-patch-notes-v5-3-6#latest
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L_Nici✭✭✭✭✭
✭@Donny_Vito its in the patchnotes https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516606/pc-mac-patch-notes-v5-3-6
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GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭ESO_Nightingale wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
...?
Low cost
High dmg
Dmg amplifier
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Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
...?
Low cost
High dmg
Dmg amplifier
Stun
And all that doesn´t matter when the skill can´t land due to cast times.......11 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
...?
Low cost
High dmg
Dmg amplifier
Stun
And all that doesn´t matter when the skill can´t land due to cast times.......
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Victor_Blade✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
...?
Low cost
High dmg
Dmg amplifier
Stun
And all that doesn´t matter when the skill can´t land due to cast times.......
Read: old
Ok forum ape12 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
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Ahhaha still angryVictor_Blade wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
...?
Low cost
High dmg
Dmg amplifier
Stun
And all that doesn´t matter when the skill can´t land due to cast times.......
Read: old
Ok forum ape
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✭✭Yeah its Pretty sad that it took the silence doing unintended stuff for zos ro return the stun back to incap instead of the pseudo cc that was the silence.Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.1 -
caperb✭✭✭✭✭
✭Curious if the bug only affected the incap silence or also other sources of silence. Negate just too good to lose to a nerf! Still good that incap got its stun back.
Also: "Fixed a crash that would sometimes occur during high volumes of combat."
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✭✭✭✭✭So we got a change in an incremental patch that has been wanted for almost a year now after incap lost its stun and got an awkward silence.
Countless posts emerged saying it's a bad debuff and often becomes a detriment for the Nightblade.
But those post were ignored for all this time.
I haven't seen the Devs publicly stating that they absolutely don't care about our feedback since them saying casttimes aren't liked by the majority of the player base but they'll keep them.
And now they're telling us that the change only happened because the coding effort was too big to keep the silence in the game.
Now we can only pray that patches in the future male casttimes impossible so every single skill loses them and we once again have a somewhat reactive gameplay in pvp
I'd have more confidence in the game;'s direction if they lied and said, "Yeah, we realized after a year it was a dumb change so we're ditching it."Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.14 -
Zalathorm✭✭✭✭Did you guys see that it DOESN'T EVEN STOP THEIR MOVEMENT?
They just slide around face in the dirt.
The incompetence is astounding.1 -
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Old, as if maybe in 1.6 or something. Back then it costed 50 ulti and and had stun & defile. On the other hand, it could still be dodged & blocked.GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
Pre - Elsweyr Incap (Murkmire - Wrathstone) was fine imho. It had 70 ulti cost and stun at 120, but no cast time.
But wait...
*Looks at Blastbones*
^ The old Incap was Underperforming
Anyway, the biggest tragedy imho is that NB was nerfed hard last year, just push ppl to use Necro. It is hard not to see that.
Tbh. If you are Sorc, Templar, DK or basically "any" base game class main - stuff like that should not happen. To nerf base game stuff, just to push new content. Sadly though, it still happens (Ice Heart set for example).
So be careful what you ask for. Ppl for example ask for new class, lets say Monk. Monk will probably mean Templar heavy nerfs. So keep that in mind, when asking for new stuff.
Edited by Tommy_The_Gun on March 16, 2020 2:15PM3 -
Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Curious if the bug only affected the incap silence or also other sources of silence. Negate just too good to lose to a nerf! Still good that incap got its stun back.
The patch notes specifically refer to "the unique silence from this ability", so other sources of silence should not be affected.0 -
Luede✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
...?
Low cost
High dmg
Dmg amplifier
Stun
maybe have a lock on dragon leap and come back again...1 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »Old, as if maybe in 1.6 or something. Back then it costed 50 ulti and and had stun & defile. On the other hand, it could still be dodged & blocked.
Pre - Elsweyr Incap (Murkmire - Wrathstone) was fine imho. It had 70 ulti cost and stun at 120, but no cast time.
But wait...
*Looks at Blastbones*
^ The old Incap was Underperforming
Anyway, the biggest tragedy imho is that NB was nerfed hard last year, just push ppl to use Necro. It is hard not to see that.
Tbh. If you are Sorc, Templar, DK or basically "any" base game class main - stuff like that should not happen. To nerf base game stuff, just to push new content. Sadly though, it still happens (Ice Heart set for example).
So be careful what you ask for. Ppl for example ask for new class, lets say Monk. Monk will probably mean Templar heavy nerfs. So keep that in mind, when asking for new stuff.
They already nerfed templar to make warden look more appealing when they came out, templars are used to it already.Politeness is respecting others.
Courage is doing what is fair.
Modesty is speaking of oneself without vanity.
Self control is keeping calm even when anger rises.
Sincerity is expressing oneself without concealing ones thoughts.
Honor is keeping ones word.0 -
Van_Winkle✭✭✭✭But this "stun" do not work... This game is only for cancer-tanks. Thanks to this new combat-"designers" team. In ancient times of Orsinium and Imperial City i was thinking, that there is no way to make pvp-balance worse, but this guys show us - there is nothing impossible xD0 -
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✭Donny_Vito wrote: »And now they're telling us that the change only happened because the coding effort was too big to keep the silence in the game.
Can you link that source for me? I want to read that. Thanks.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/516606/pc-mac-patch-notes-v5-3-6#latest
There you go
Thank you.
Interesting... must have missed that when they dropped the update with our console release.0 -
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✭✭✭But is this only temporary?
Will they revert it once they "fix" the conflict with Silence?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »ESO_Nightingale wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »The old incap was overloaded
...?
Low cost
High dmg
Dmg amplifier
Stun
And all that doesn´t matter when the skill can´t land due to cast times.......
And it's dodgeable. I have the absolute worst timing ever in PvP, casting Incap at the same moment my target decides to roll.CP2,200+ Master Explorer - AvA Two Star Warlord - Console Peasant - Khajiiti Aficionado - The Clan
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Lybal✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »But is this only temporary?
Will they revert it once they "fix" the conflict with Silence?
Soon :Nightblade
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Incapacitating Strike: This Ultimate no longer stun the target, but instead silence them for 3 seconds if cast with 120 or more Ultimate. This change was primarily done to fix an issue where the target affected by the stun was still be able to move.Edited by Lybal on March 16, 2020 8:34PMOut of this game, tired of horrible performance and a lot of changes.1 -
Salthy✭✭✭brandonv516 wrote: »But is this only temporary?
Will they revert it once they "fix" the conflict with Silence?
Soon :Nightblade
Assassination
Incapacitating Strike: This Ultimate no longer stun the target, but instead silence them for 3 seconds if cast with 120 or more Ultimate. This change was primarily done to fix an issue where the target affected by the stun was still be able to move.
"Incap is now a root".Edited by Salthy on March 16, 2020 9:34PMPC EU - NO CP / CP camp | Stamplar & Magblade0
