IMO both vampire and werewolf should use your highest stats mag or stam

drakthir

Both of these gifts from Daedric princes they should be equal on whatever your main stat is

Nemesis7884

eh i think you can absolutely make the case for vampires to also have some stamina related combat prowess... i dont see the lore friendliness for werewolves magical abilities tough...maybe you could give them a magic resistance bonus instead...

drakthir

With werewolf its a transformation using daedric magic, well it's a curse/gift.
My main point is that its a transformation into something different, it shouldn't be based on what was but to what is

TheShadowScout

Nah.

Werewolves being stamina-centric makes complete sense for a "besital" transformation!

Vampires being more magically inclined also makes a good deal of sense, tho I suppose they could use a skill that burns stolen blood to boost their physical prowess... that -would- go well with many classic vampire clichees...

Still.
No sense to make those "candoitall" conditions... too many people take them for the benefits only already. If anything, they ought to be -more annoying- to play as... I say, pile on more classic clichè stuff, like vampires having issues with running water and can loose control to auto-attack mortals when too blood-starved or werewolves having to hunt and devour some prey each full moon or suffer a debuff for the next game-month...

drakthir

There are magical beasts, and no im not suggesting a werewolf shooting fireballs or anything, im jsut saying, the transform should be equal no matter what you were before the transform Hircines gift should be equal for everyone, race shouldnt matter, im gonna say it class aswell, you are basically tranforming your race, locking yourself into a new class, it should be equal all round

CMDR_Un1k0rn

OP, I agree.

It's not like we don't already have a magicka spell or two that scales of stamina for damage if it's the bigger stat, because we do.

I'd like to remind everyone also, that ESO is the only TES game where being a magicka user in human/mer/beast-folk form makes the lycanthrope form almost useless.

I get it's an MMO but I don't want to hear "but the lore", because the lore is that when in lycanthrope form, you are, essentially, no longer your Tamrielic-self. You are a an extension of Hircine's power, and Hircine does not like weakness. He hunts it without mercy, instead.

Hircine does not create weak things. Even his creations that serve as prey, namely the unicorn, are incredibly strong.

drakthir

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

OP, I agree.

It's not like we don't already have a magicka spell or two that scales of stamina for damage if it's the bigger stat, because we do.

I'd like to remind everyone also, that ESO is the only TES game where being a magicka user in human/mer/beast-folk form makes the lycanthrope form almost useless.

I get it's an MMO but I don't want to hear "but the lore", because the lore is that when in lycanthrope form, you are, essentially, no longer your Tamrielic-self. You are a an extension of Hircine's power, and Hircine does not like weakness. He hunts it without mercy, instead.

Hircine does not create weak things. Even his creations that serve as prey, namely the unicorn, are incredibly strong.

Yes, this exactly.