The appearance of the Harrowfiend Vampires

TX12001rwb17_ESO

As of the recent update we are able to enter the Riften Ratway and fight a new type of Vampire enemy known as a Harrowfiend which according to dialogue is said to be somekind of stronger version of a bloodfiend, long story short they look like this..



Does that look familiar at all? because that is very obviously the face of a Volkihar Vampire and they are ironically enough involved with the Ice-Reach Coven, Remember the line in the book mortal blood which stated the Volkihar could reach through the ice, is that a coincidence?

What do you believe are the lore implications regarding this?

Thevampirenight

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As of the recent update we are able to enter the Riften Ratway and fight a new type of Vampire enemy known as a Harrowfiend which according to dialogue is said to be somekind of stronger version of a bloodfiend, long story short they look like this..



Does that look familiar at all? because that is very obviously the face of a Volkihar Vampire and they are ironically enough involved with the Ice-Reach Coven, Remember the line in the book mortal blood which stated the Volkihar could reach through the ice, is that a coincidence?

What do you believe are the lore implications regarding this?

They look to be a form of Soul Shriven Vampire to be honest with you. They could actually be a form of Vampiric Soul Shriven.
Harrow Fiends are well harrowed pun intended . My guess the process the Ice Reach Witches use in their creation makes them look like this. They are tied to the Main Witch Threat we are going to be seeing. They seem to be a byproduct of Witch Craft and the Harrow storms will actually cause more to be created from what I'm getting at. That will be the main threat we will likely have to stop during the Greymoor chapter.

They don't look like Volkihar as their features are more bat like. Not even close.
Harrow Fiends compared with Soul Shriven.
You can see in this comparasion not mine a comparison between Soul Shriven and Harrowfiend.

Alienoutlaw

the fact the new chapter is centred around skyrim i suspect that Lord Volkihar will be playing a huge role in the up coming story

Thevampirenight

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

the fact the new chapter is centred around skyrim i suspect that Lord Volkihar will be playing a huge role in the up coming story

If Harkon is involved, he won't be the antagonist they confirmed Harkon isn't the Antagonist. They said we wouldn't be seeing much of the Volkihar. So the vampires and the Vampire Lord we will be facing will not be Volkihar. That does not mean the Volkihar won't be involved however.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

the fact the new chapter is centred around skyrim i suspect that Lord Volkihar will be playing a huge role in the up coming story

If Harkon is involved, he won't be the antagonist they confirmed Harkon isn't the Antagonist. They said we wouldn't be seeing much of the Volkihar. So the vampires and the Vampire Lord we will be facing will not be Volkihar. That does not mean the Volkihar won't be involved however.

Did it ever occur to you that the villian was probably turned by Harkon and therfor is technically Volkihar, you do not have to be part of his court to be part of that Vampiric Strain and no not all the Volkihar look Bat-Like, Harkon himself doesnt have bat features, nor does Serana or Valerica or Vingalmo or Ronthil or even the LDB, these are clearly Volkihar Vampires, Same eye color, the lips are darkened, what more do you need? An eye exam perhaps?

Thevampirenight

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

Alienoutlaw wrote: »

the fact the new chapter is centred around skyrim i suspect that Lord Volkihar will be playing a huge role in the up coming story

If Harkon is involved, he won't be the antagonist they confirmed Harkon isn't the Antagonist. They said we wouldn't be seeing much of the Volkihar. So the vampires and the Vampire Lord we will be facing will not be Volkihar. That does not mean the Volkihar won't be involved however.

Did it ever occur to you that the villian was probably turned by Harkon and therfor is technically Volkihar, you do not have to be part of his court to be part of that Vampiric Strain and no not all the Volkihar look Bat-Like, Harkon himself doesnt have bat features, nor does Serana or Valerica or Vingalmo or Ronthil or even the LDB, these are clearly Volkihar Vampires, Same eye color, the lips are darkened, what more do you need? An eye exam perhaps?

Yes its possible however, I doubt hes connected to Harkon. I think they are going to try and tie in a more Breton theme to the chapter. The Vampires would likely have this theme. The Vampire Lord will we face might actually be Breton. Not only Breton but have connections to the Gray Host. The Vampire lord could be a Second Gen Vampire turned by https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Online:King_Styriche_of_Verkarth Who could very well be a Vampire Lord himself given his power and the power he had. My guess the Vampire Lord Big bad is trying to reform that power and restore the Gray Host so that will likely be another threat we will have to deal with. One From the Witches and one from a Power Hungry Vampire that wants to Conquer.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Gray_Host

I strongly suspect the Gray Host will play a prominent role in more ways then one. Given the name Greymoor it might not be far fetched Greymoor could be connected to the Gray Host or possible survivors that made it out and survived being ambushed or slaughtered by the Redguards and Bankgorai Garrison. There is another reason for this too, the Symbol on the Urns of the Gray Host is the exact same as the Black Reach entrance Marker Found on the Mysterious Parchments Rich confirmed the symbol is the entrance to Black Reach where we are told there is vampire city down there which can be seen in the trailer where the vampire goes to report to the vampire lord. So there is a Gray Host connection somewhere and this Vampire lord will be tied to it somehow.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

The Verkarth Vampire is already an enemy in the game and has been since it came out in 2014.

Thevampirenight

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

The Verkarth Vampire is already an enemy in the game and has been since it came out in 2014.

I think they are going to be expanding on the Verkarth Vampires. I think we might even learn more about their history as well. Even though the main leader of the Gray Host was slain along with most of his people and became a Anchor Boss we can fight at times. I think we might see survivors of the ancient Gray Host and the Vampire Lord big bad could be one of those Survivors. The names of the campaigns are named after prominent parts of the Greymoor Chapter. Gray Host so happens to be one, Ravenwatch another, Ice Reach and Black Reach.

Given Gray Host is named directly means they are going to be involved the symbol on the map plus the gray host urns shows a lot of circumstantial evidence towards this. I know you might want it to be Volkihar but all evidence points towards the Gray Host. Including the name of Greymoor. Gray/Grey different spelling but same word. Plus Gray Host Urns in Unhallowed Grave, that same symbol for the black reach entrance.
The evidence just points towards the Verkarth Vampires being prominent in the chapter. It is clear as day that they are, whether directly or indirectly and it could be both.

Noxavian

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As of the recent update we are able to enter the Riften Ratway and fight a new type of Vampire enemy known as a Harrowfiend which according to dialogue is said to be somekind of stronger version of a bloodfiend, long story short they look like this..



Does that look familiar at all? because that is very obviously the face of a Volkihar Vampire and they are ironically enough involved with the Ice-Reach Coven, Remember the line in the book mortal blood which stated the Volkihar could reach through the ice, is that a coincidence?

What do you believe are the lore implications regarding this?

Imagine thinking a random vamp that looks ugly immediately means it's related to the Volkihar clan

Spoiler: it's not. That is a bloodfiend skin, so says the data mine that has it as an unlockable thing for players.

Also: instead of stretching your reasoning and speculation, why not just wait till we have more details on the chapter? I would assume soon enough we'll know more.

Faulgor

Doesn't look particularly Volkihar to me.

B0SSzombie

Well hey, if you want to look like that, there's an upcoming (probably Crown Crate) skin called "Bloodfiend:"

TX12001rwb17_ESO

B0SSzombie wrote: »

Well hey, if you want to look like that, there's an upcoming (probably Crown Crate) skin called "Bloodfiend:"

And that looks nothing like the Bloodfiends that exist in game, it looks more like the Harrowfiends.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Noxavian wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As of the recent update we are able to enter the Riften Ratway and fight a new type of Vampire enemy known as a Harrowfiend which according to dialogue is said to be somekind of stronger version of a bloodfiend, long story short they look like this..



Does that look familiar at all? because that is very obviously the face of a Volkihar Vampire and they are ironically enough involved with the Ice-Reach Coven, Remember the line in the book mortal blood which stated the Volkihar could reach through the ice, is that a coincidence?

What do you believe are the lore implications regarding this?

Imagine thinking a random vamp that looks ugly immediately means it's related to the Volkihar clan

Spoiler: it's not. That is a bloodfiend skin, so says the data mine that has it as an unlockable thing for players.

Also: instead of stretching your reasoning and speculation, why not just wait till we have more details on the chapter? I would assume soon enough we'll know more.

That is not a Bloodfiend though, that is a Harrowfiend.

Noxavian

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

B0SSzombie wrote: »

Well hey, if you want to look like that, there's an upcoming (probably Crown Crate) skin called "Bloodfiend:"

And that looks nothing like the Bloodfiends that exist in game, it looks more like the Harrowfiends.

It's literally called bloodfiend in the data mine. Also regardless, doesn't look anything like a Volkihar vampire. Only similarity are the red eyes.

Noxavian

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Noxavian wrote: »

TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »

As of the recent update we are able to enter the Riften Ratway and fight a new type of Vampire enemy known as a Harrowfiend which according to dialogue is said to be somekind of stronger version of a bloodfiend, long story short they look like this..



Does that look familiar at all? because that is very obviously the face of a Volkihar Vampire and they are ironically enough involved with the Ice-Reach Coven, Remember the line in the book mortal blood which stated the Volkihar could reach through the ice, is that a coincidence?

What do you believe are the lore implications regarding this?

Imagine thinking a random vamp that looks ugly immediately means it's related to the Volkihar clan

Spoiler: it's not. That is a bloodfiend skin, so says the data mine that has it as an unlockable thing for players.

Also: instead of stretching your reasoning and speculation, why not just wait till we have more details on the chapter? I would assume soon enough we'll know more.

That is not a Bloodfiend though, that is a Harrowfiend.

The name of the skin in the data mine is blood fiend.

Thevampirenight

Yeah they are calling it blood fiend. The differance is the Skin looks far more defined then many of the Rat Way Harrowfiends.
They could be for all we know overhauling the appearance of blood fiends to distinguish them from vampires.
The Blood Fiend skin from the Datamine matches in many ways the concept art for the blood fiends.
My guess what they wanted them to look like this but maybe they got held back and thus didn't go through with it.


Now compared to the blood fiend skin.

And then the Harrow Fiend.


Its the eyes but also their faces. They look similar to the concept art. So maybe they are overhauling the appearance of the in game blood fiends .
On the uesp I found the text for the skin. It is also called Blood Fiend.
"Whether afflicted by the Rivenspire blood-curse or some other vile vampiric corruption, the result is the same: Victims transform into ravenous monsters. These creatures know nothing but rage and hunger. Appalling."—Nalana, Advisor to House Tamrith

So it seems the skin will be an actual blood fiend skin.