Besthesda, please put ESO back on Nvidia's GeForce Now.

CallmeFishmeal

I'm begging you! I've been playing ESO on GeForce Now since I purchased the game on Steam, about a year and half ago. I don't have a gaming computer so GeForce Now was the only way I could play. Every since Bethesda withdrew it's games from Nvidia, I haven't been able to play It sucks not being able to play a game that I purchased! I have not been able to participate in the event, or even do the new Harrowstorm dungeons I don't know what Bethesda's issue is with Nvidia, but I really hope they get it resolved quickly, cause now I'm feeling robbed out of my money. I would think that Bethesda would try to get as many people playing their games by allowing them to play on as many platforms as possible, but it seems I am mistaken. Please Bethesda Try to at least have it back up on GeForce Now before the Greymoore is live or give me my money back; for Greymoore, all my remaining crowns, and my ESO plus subscription.

rager82b14_ESO

I mean it would be good for the consumer if they did. So they won't do it.

CallmeFishmeal

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

I mean it would be good for the consumer if they did. So they won't do it.

Usually is the the case, but sshhhhhh, don't jinx it! I'm giving them this one last chance to prove themselves.

Siohwenoeht

As I understand it, it's a licensing conflict with Invidia so it may not be totally Bethesda's decision.

Invidia GeForce Now doesn't require an separate purchase like Stadia, for example, but now requires a subscription for the service after leaving free beta.

So Bethesda and I believe EA want those terms changed so that they make money off their IP's on the separate purchase.

CallmeFishmeal

No, it's 100 percent Bethesda's decision. You think Nvidia would just say, "Hey, now that we are out of beta, let's remove a bunch of games for our subscribers!" I don't think so. Activision was the one with the licensing issue but not much was said about why Bethesda pulled their games. I think it's because Nvidia finally cracked the code on cloud-stream gaming and Bethesda wanted some of that GeForce money. But that's just my theory. Nonetheless, I can't play my game at all and I know Bethesda isn't going to refund me for everything, or buy me a gaming computer, so I expect at least a response from them! They can tell me if they will ever add their games to GeForce Now again, or if I need to start raising some he'll over getting some money back for an ESO subscription that is being unused because they decided they didn't want their games reaching out to certain customers. I understand it's a small percentage of people who play ESO on GeForce Now, but I am one of them, and it's really unfair.

Arunei

Expecting a response from them isn't going to get you a response. No one working at the level of marketing decision for Bethesda comes to these forums, they're for ESO. No one here has any power to give you any answers you'll find satisfactory, and if anything, you'll get your thread locked making demands. And even if someone at that level did, for whatever reason, decide to check this forum and see this specific thread, there's a very good possibility they aren't at liberty to mention any sort of potential agreements that might be getting worked on. Unfortunately, the only thing you can do is wait to see what developments come in the future.

You also have to realize it isn't Bethesda's fault you don't have any other way of playing ESO. It's like buying a game on a phone, having no other way to play it, and then expecting your phone carrier to reimburse you the cost of the game when it's no longer supported on your phone. Or maybe another example, say you buy a game for a game console but your console breaks and now that game you bought is useless. You can't expect the maker of the game console, or the store you bought the game from, to reimburse you for the cost of the game. You either have to buy a new console to play it on, or cut your losses and move on. It sucks, I won't deny that, but that's just how it is.

Siohwenoeht

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

No, it's 100 percent Bethesda's decision. You think Nvidia would just say, "Hey, now that we are out of beta, let's remove a bunch of games for our subscribers!" I don't think so. Activision was the one with the licensing issue but not much was said about why Bethesda pulled their games. I think it's because Nvidia finally cracked the code on cloud-stream gaming and Bethesda wanted some of that GeForce money. But that's just my theory. Nonetheless, I can't play my game at all and I know Bethesda isn't going to refund me for everything, or buy me a gaming computer, so I expect at least a response from them! They can tell me if they will ever add their games to GeForce Now again, or if I need to start raising some he'll over getting some money back for an ESO subscription that is being unused because they decided they didn't want their games reaching out to certain customers. I understand it's a small percentage of people who play ESO on GeForce Now, but I am one of them, and it's really unfair.

I agree, what I was trying to convey was that Invidia may be pushing back on the publishers requiring their subscribers to purchase the game again.

In the end, yes Bethesda and Activision may have made the initial pull, but that doesn't mean Invidia is just going to accept their terms.

JamuThatsWho

According to reports, they weren't even suppose to be on it in the first place.

Nvidia misinterpreted part of a contract and mistakenly put more games on than they should've.

virtus753

JamuThatsWho wrote: »

According to reports, they weren't even suppose to be on it in the first place.

Nvidia misinterpreted part of a contract and mistakenly put more games on than they should've.

Those reports are specific to Activision games, though, and it was Nvidia who claimed to have “misunderstood” whether those games should have been available or not. Activision doesn’t seem to have confirmed or denied that claim, so who knows? Bethesda pulled all but one of their games a week after the Activision games were removed, and there hasn’t been anything said by Nvidia or Bethesda about a contract misunderstanding with that.

Nyladreas

Screw the customers, screw the people, screw their money, screw their time.

This is business.

Pretty much what's happening. Cause like anyone cares about this bureaucratic crap. We just wanna be able to play.

Thevampirenight

You do realize that Zenimax Online studios is connected to Bethesda but they are not Bethesda. They are their own subgroup of the Zenimax media company and they do have to somewhat listen to Bethesda on some things since they loan Zenimax Online Studios the right to access the ip.

Tommy_The_Gun

That is the biggest problem and concern with the game streaming services in general. You have a game that you like, you invested a lot of time in it (and posibly cash - you know, skins etc.) and one day... Poof ! It is gone, and you are left with nothing. No phisical copy, no saves, nothing...
It is even worse than with lets say Netflix / Amazon platforms. Movies and Shows can simply disappear - but once you watch it, you have had 100% of experience. Video games are different, because those have replay value. Another warning light for me not to use it.

sekou_trayvond

Honestly, for my own employment, it's probably best I don't have access to ESO at work.

"Dear Bethesda. Please keep my husband employed by reconsidering ESO's placement on GEForce Now. Signed, Sekou Trayvond's wife"

RinaldoGandolphi

Maybe they will bring it back at some point

Sarousse

It was totally awesome, i was able to play TESO on my phone everywhere.

One of the worst decision ever from Bethesda. They don't care about players being happy. All they care is about $$$.

idk

How do we know Zos pulled ESO from Geoforce? It could easily be Nvidia had a demand Zos was not willing to submit to and as such Nvidia pulled the plug.

witchdoctor

idk wrote: »

How do we know Zos pulled ESO from Geoforce? It could easily be Nvidia had a demand Zos was not willing to submit to and as such Nvidia pulled the plug.

Because on these forums ZOS can do no right. The obvious fact that no one here has the sighted the contracts or has any idea of the business terms is not considered.

VaranisArano

What confuses me about the whole deal is that Nvidia seems to have known that publishers were going to pull games as the free trial period wrapped up - they said as much in their PR statement, even if they are hoping those games come back. Plenty of games were pulled prior to the end of the trial, Activision's were pulled because Nvidia thought they had the license (they didn't), and then Bethesda pulled for a yet unknown reason.

So Nvidia clearly didn't expect that all their games would always be available. They knew that specific games might not stay available on their service.

And yet there are a number of players here and on the Geforce Now forums who apparently went with Nvidia for specific games, buying those games knowing they had no way of playing them if they weren't on Nvidia's service.

Why? They didn't know there was no guarantee that those specific games would stay available after the trial period? Or was it wishful thinking?

Brandathorbel

VaranisArano wrote: »

What confuses me about the whole deal is that Nvidia seems to have known that publishers were going to pull games as the free trial period wrapped up - they said as much in their PR statement, even if they are hoping those games come back. Plenty of games were pulled prior to the end of the trial, Activision's were pulled because Nvidia thought they had the license (they didn't), and then Bethesda pulled for a yet unknown reason.

So Nvidia clearly didn't expect that all their games would always be available. They knew that specific games might not stay available on their service.

And yet there are a number of players here and on the Geforce Now forums who apparently went with Nvidia for specific games, buying those games knowing they had no way of playing them if they weren't on Nvidia's service.

Why? They didn't know there was no guarantee that those specific games would stay available after the trial period? Or was it wishful thinking?

companies always put a disclaimer in to cover them being that nothing is guaranteed when you are working with another party.
it is normal.

nafensoriel

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

No, it's 100 percent Bethesda's decision. You think Nvidia would just say, "Hey, now that we are out of beta, let's remove a bunch of games for our subscribers!" I don't think so. Activision was the one with the licensing issue but not much was said about why Bethesda pulled their games. I think it's because Nvidia finally cracked the code on cloud-stream gaming and Bethesda wanted some of that GeForce money. But that's just my theory. Nonetheless, I can't play my game at all and I know Bethesda isn't going to refund me for everything, or buy me a gaming computer, so I expect at least a response from them! They can tell me if they will ever add their games to GeForce Now again, or if I need to start raising some he'll over getting some money back for an ESO subscription that is being unused because they decided they didn't want their games reaching out to certain customers. I understand it's a small percentage of people who play ESO on GeForce Now, but I am one of them, and it's really unfair.

Not how business works.
Yes, it is Zenimax's(not bethesda) choice however if that choice is prompted by predatory practices by Nvidia then can you blame them?

If you sell a product to a grocery store and the grocery store just copies it and sells it to the dollar store down the road do you get mad? Yep. You get mad. Nvidia is trying to charge a subscription without any form of compensation and using these companies as a means to profit without compensation.

You want anyone to go back to Nvidia? Complain to Nvidia to properly compensate companies for their work.

Soris

Wow i didnt even know ESO was on GFN. Please bring back