Endgame barrier to entry?

Moro-Murasaki

I currently play FFXIV but it's gotten to the point that I'm mostly just logging in to do my weekly raids and that's basically it. While that's it's own can of worms I'm curious to know what I'd realistically need to do to get into high end ESO. I've only ever been a casual player here, mostly just story stuff, but if I'm not particularly scared of the technical skill requirements I'm wondering about necessary time investment and the direction I'd need to take.

Is there an enforced meta composition and does it frequently change? Does high end content even get done on ps4 (since that's all I play on) or is it mostly a PC thing? Is there a stable place to look for recruitment or am I mostly bumbling around in-game to find someone to play with? Would I first need to cap CP in order to even begin to worry about most of this?

Thanks in advance to anyone who answers, any and all info is appreciated - in the mean time I'll get to googling.

Onefrkncrzypope

1. dedicated meta that must be followed: no but there is a meta that does out preform
2. Endgame Concet completes on PS4: Its getting smaller but only thing the keeps us from completing content is usually bugs or load screens(speed run and high scores)
3. the is guild finder. Its rudimentary at best but its a start.
4. for endgame content CP really makes a difference but vetcrags and normal trials are ran at lower CP. That being said you will probably be comfortable after around 500 cp in vet trials if I am being honest. DLC trials its all about burn so if DPS expect that bottleneck.

dazee

ESO endgame is pretty easy to get into- at least if you are a healer, I've been playing since pre one tamriel and have yet to pass 40k dps although I can hit 31k in trials on some characters now, so it is improving.

Gear is easy to get in ESO and requires less grind than FFXIV. I love FFXIV, and its my main mmo and has been for years, will be for the forseeable future. but ESO does some things that FFXIV does not.

I cant be a murderhobo on FFXIV! I cant STEAL THINGS on FFXIV! Gotta be a model citizen warrior of light/darkness after all.

FFXIV may have ESO beat on mechanics, story, presentation, battle animations, and many other things without question, but ESO has its own niche which as long as it continues to give us build freedom, character customization, and gameplay freedom, ESO will continue to do well.

As soon as ESO starts to become more like standard mmos such as FFXIV or WoW, it will start to die hard.

AgaTheGreat

There are several facebook groups for PS4 where you can find people to play with.
Mind you, in end game experience matter a lot and also connections (the people you know). So just getting enough experience can take more than half a year if not more. And that's just for joining entry end game guilds.

AgaTheGreat

There are millions of healers but only two spots per team. You have to be really good to have a spot in competent teams.

Just being a healer or tank doesn't guarantee you'll be able to join. I'm talking about competitive raiding.

dazee

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

There are millions of healers but only two spots per team. You have to be really good to have a spot in competent teams.

Just being a healer or tank doesn't guarantee you'll be able to join. I'm talking about competitive raiding.

Good thing I am good at healing. also Competitive raiding is pointless. its not a competition, or a race, its a challenge of teamwork, COOPERATION.

I love difficult content, I do savage raids in FFXIV, but world first races and such just make me laugh. No one needs that kind of pressure in games. people dont play games for pressure after all.

Gonna be brutally honest with you, compared to FFXIV endgame difficult content ESO vet trials are a joke. and most raid groups in FFXIV arent caring about who clears first, they just want to clear before the next tier in most cases. only the most tryhard groups want to clear in the first week, and those are the ones I'd never want to join, since i play games for FUN.

Welkynar

This is my advice based on my experience as a dps main:

Try to find a guild. Use your mic and make friends. All my guilds have very nice members who helped me out when I joined them. You could use guild finder or talk with people in zones and ask for a guild invite. For trading guilds, find them using guild finder. You get more profits from traders with dues. Typically they are in higher traffic areas, but you need to be active in order to sell enough to make it worth it.

To do higher end content, I think the first thing you need to consider is how you will get food and potions.

With ESO+: Level provisioning and alchemy (also do the other crafting skills so you can do daily writs and obtain and sell gold materials at trading guilds for money, and don’t forget about researching).

Without ESO+: Either buy food/potions, deal with inventory management to level provisioning and alchemy, or maybe ask people/guild members to donate food/potions

For gear, I would look at the Alcast website for viable sets. You don’t always have to use sets he uses for his builds. Before I did trials (and therefore unable to get trial sets), I just bought Mother’s Sorrow and Spell Strategist gear for my dps from traders. I can do about 43-44k dps on a 3 million health dummy with them. Of course, you can look up the gear you want and farm them.

Before I started doing veteran dungeons and trials, I practiced my rotation on dummies at my guild house.

When I was ready to do veteran content, I read and watched guides to learn how to do them. This is especially important for dlc dungeons and trials. Many people, even high CP players, still mess up because they don’t do this. If you know mechanics and you’re in a group that knows the mechanics, it’s a lot easier. I’m not sure about CP requirements, but I started veteran dungeons when I was around CP 200 to 300, and veteran trials at around CP 400.

For your build you might need to do veteran Maelstrom Arena. To get my maelstrom inferno staff, I had to spend 3 whole days to get it. It was so brutal. I have so many maelstrom daggers, bows, ice staves, lightning staves, etc., but to get that one inferno staff it took 3 days. At least I got to do it so many times I eventually got the Flawless Conqueror title. Never stepping into that place again.

If you’re a tank or healer, you don’t need to do vMA. For my Dragonknight tank, I use crafted weapons I think, and my Templar healer I use a staff I got from the clockwork city trial, I think.

If I made any mistakes, someone please let me know

dazee

you dont actually -need- VMA weapons, but they are definitely a great help for dps, and VMA itself is a pretty cool thing, SOLO endgame content with good rewards.

vgabor

If you want to do endgame content vMA is a great place to learn how to deal with mechanics and survive while still dpsing. The vMA weapons you get are secondary, the main benefit is what you learn doing it.

Moro-Murasaki

Thanks guys! \o/

I think I'll go ahead and re-up my ps+ to give things a try. I dove deep into some guides and watched some PoVs, I guess my only real concern is that I'll invest all this time getting to CP cap (or at least up there) and then not find the actual endgame content like... engaging?

Its not meant as a dig at the game, like there's a reason I'm thinking about picking it back up after all, but there's certainly a lack of precision that seems apparent in everything I've watched which seems like it could irk me. It's hard to tell. It's certainly a lot different from savage/ultimate in XIV but that isn't necessarily a bad thing just harder to wrap my head around.

Worst case I spend some time enjoying Tamriel lore so it's kinda win-win.

Responses are appreciated, thanks again!