Instead of giving us a free pet to redownload the game, how about just making a game that just works

Davor

Why is Zenimax giving us a pet for redownloading the game? I believe we had to redownload the game twice before if not more. Never got no free pets. How come this time? It does feel to me that what ever Zenimax is trying to do is not going to work.

So, how about instead of a free pet for our inconvenience, just give us a product that just works and most of us will be happy. I guess after 5 years of Zenimax saying "this will be the fix" I just lost faith and it seems this is a bribe or a way to say, "well you got a free pet that you don't even own, so if it doesn't work, you got something at least."

I really hope I am wrong. Tried coming back to Xbox ESO and load times are just not fun for me.

I wish the best of luck for everyone on Monday.

ArchMikem

I dont remember being forced to reinstall before.

And the whole point behind this reinstall is to have a better working game.

vestahls

The whole point of the reinstall is to make the game work better, OP.

AhPook_Is_Here

I'd rather have the free pet, the forums would get boring with a working game.

L2Pissue

Actually it's good and is going to eradicate currently under the shelf exploits, however, it may bring new exploits,
even though, looking at the bigger picture they seem to be investing in making the game playable.
Which is welcome

xXMeowMeowXx

But I waaaaaaant the Crimson Torchbug Pet too !!

Never got the torchbug pet aka the cutest firefly critter of dem all
To me that was da best pet of da pets to be had !!

Pretty Please with Sweet Rolls can I have a The torchbug firefly pet ?? It would make my adventures through Tamriel just gucci....

Not to mention a very cute nightlight for my home.

Hehe, then I would have two colors, but the little yellow fireball is my favorite.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Saelent

I WANT A FIX!!!
I WANT A FIIIIIX!!!

NO NO NO! I DONT WANT A FIX LIKE THIS, I WANT A FIX MY WAY!
MY WAYYYYYY!!!

Seriously? They’re literally doing what people have been asking for. ‘Shut down the game, blah blah’ and they’re just adding a little pet for our inconvenience. No actually, the pet is just to annoy you, because why should we have something nice for being patient.
Now you really are whining, no offence. /s

We’ve never had to redownload the whole game again, that’s just rubbish. They’ve tried to go through little downloads and little patches here and there, we get it, that didn’t work, they get it too and that’s what Monday is for. So, do what the rest of us do, count down until Monday. K?

tmbrinks

Isn't that the point of the re-download? Make assets load faster and more efficient.

Yes, there are some fringe case issues with the game, but as a whole it plays pretty well (and yes, I did PVP in the middle of MYM... only got DC'd twice in the entire event in pop-locked campaigns)

But... to complain before it's even happened and been stress tested, when they're at least trying? They have a published road map, a plan, right now. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's a start. They re-did the group finder, and it worked for the most part (at least way better than before) during the undaunted event. This year's MYM was better than many have been in the past. So, things are moving in the right direction.

(I know there are some issues on PS4 specifically... that seems to be a whole other issue, don't know what's up with that)

TheFM

tmbrinks wrote: »

Isn't that the point of the re-download? Make assets load faster and more efficient.

Yes, there are some fringe case issues with the game, but as a whole it plays pretty well (and yes, I did PVP in the middle of MYM... only got DC'd twice in the entire event in pop-locked campaigns)

But... to complain before it's even happened and been stress tested, when they're at least trying? They have a published road map, a plan, right now. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's a start. They re-did the group finder, and it worked for the most part (at least way better than before) during the undaunted event. This year's MYM was better than many have been in the past. So, things are moving in the right direction.

(I know there are some issues on PS4 specifically... that seems to be a whole other issue, don't know what's up with that)

Yeah sorry you are just lying about mym and pop lock. Literally everyone was complaining about the performance. And since then cyordiil has giant pink blobs popping up everywhere, glitching keeps that blink in and out of existence and outposts getting confused on which assets to use so it looks like some sort of tower defense game.

tmbrinks

TheFM wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Isn't that the point of the re-download? Make assets load faster and more efficient.

Yes, there are some fringe case issues with the game, but as a whole it plays pretty well (and yes, I did PVP in the middle of MYM... only got DC'd twice in the entire event in pop-locked campaigns)

But... to complain before it's even happened and been stress tested, when they're at least trying? They have a published road map, a plan, right now. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's a start. They re-did the group finder, and it worked for the most part (at least way better than before) during the undaunted event. This year's MYM was better than many have been in the past. So, things are moving in the right direction.

(I know there are some issues on PS4 specifically... that seems to be a whole other issue, don't know what's up with that)

Yeah sorry you are just lying about mym and pop lock. Literally everyone was complaining about the performance. And since then cyordiil has giant pink blobs popping up everywhere, glitching keeps that blink in and out of existence and outposts getting confused on which assets to use so it looks like some sort of tower defense game.

I guess I'm lying. I can't count to 2. Sorry, I must have forgotten, I only teach math all day long. The 6 million AP I earned during the event must have been a lie as well.

I wonder what else in my life is a lie...

VaranisArano

TheFM wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Isn't that the point of the re-download? Make assets load faster and more efficient.

Yes, there are some fringe case issues with the game, but as a whole it plays pretty well (and yes, I did PVP in the middle of MYM... only got DC'd twice in the entire event in pop-locked campaigns)

But... to complain before it's even happened and been stress tested, when they're at least trying? They have a published road map, a plan, right now. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's a start. They re-did the group finder, and it worked for the most part (at least way better than before) during the undaunted event. This year's MYM was better than many have been in the past. So, things are moving in the right direction.

(I know there are some issues on PS4 specifically... that seems to be a whole other issue, don't know what's up with that)

Yeah sorry you are just lying about mym and pop lock. Literally everyone was complaining about the performance. And since then cyordiil has giant pink blobs popping up everywhere, glitching keeps that blink in and out of existence and outposts getting confused on which assets to use so it looks like some sort of tower defense game.

It really depends. Much to my surprise, I had better performance in large battles during Midyear Mayhem than I have before or after the event ended, even in PC/NA Kaal at primetime. And it really was much better than last year during Summerset when I couldn't stay on Vivec past 10 am when the lag got crippling.

So I dunno. MYM was better for me too. Not good, but better.

Nemesis7884

brilliant idea - i mean why dont they just fix the issues immediately and everyone is happy... damn why havent they thought of it before - just brilliant

PrayingSeraph

Wow. See, even when they try to fix the game, and even offer a free pet for redownload inconvenience, you STILL have people complain about the manner in which they do it.

Come on guys, this does not look good for the forums....

Nairinhe

PrayingSeraph wrote: »

Wow. See, even when they try to fix the game, and even offer a free pet for redownload inconvenience, you STILL have people complain about the manner in which they do it.

Come on guys, this does not look good for the forums....

If only we could power the servers with all those complaints...

Mancombe_Nosehair

"Shut down the servers and fix stuff!", they shout.

Zos shuts down the server to fix stuff.

"It's not fair, Zos is shutting the server to fix stuff!"

You couldn't make it up.

Nestor

Just goes to show, the only thing consistent about people complaining is...

People will complain.🙄

GlorphNoldorin

Given previous stated supposed fixes that zos has put out..........given this track record, if I were betting.....I wouldnt be putting money on any improvements soon............... the OP has a point.

Langdon64

I'll take the pet. There will always be problems in the game.

jircris11

Davor wrote: »

Why is Zenimax giving us a pet for redownloading the game? I believe we had to redownload the game twice before if not more. Never got no free pets. How come this time? It does feel to me that what ever Zenimax is trying to do is not going to work.

So, how about instead of a free pet for our inconvenience, just give us a product that just works and most of us will be happy. I guess after 5 years of Zenimax saying "this will be the fix" I just lost faith and it seems this is a bribe or a way to say, "well you got a free pet that you don't even own, so if it doesn't work, you got something at least."

I really hope I am wrong. Tried coming back to Xbox ESO and load times are just not fun for me.

I wish the best of luck for everyone on Monday.

That IS the point of redownloading. It's the first major step in the overhaul on how the client gets information.

GMdoghunter

Totally agree give us a game that works not some buggy in fact riddled with bugs and something that simply doesnt work,well said GIVE US A GAME THAT WORKS OR LOSE SUBSCRIBERS.

MashmalloMan

Wow how revolutionary OP, you cracked the code. Don't you think they would just "give you a working game" if they could do that easily? Whats the point of this thread exactly? They're forcing us to redownload exactly because they've decided to focus on performance improvements so you got what you wished for?

I've never had to redownload the game..

Waynerx8

We will see, have we not already had memory improvements, which kinda did not work, continuous bugs never fixed, ZOS will have to hope Mondays patch does work, otherwise 2 patches in to their performance road map, not to mention 6 years year later from release.

My main issue is that should we be in this position after all these years ? not really, don't care about pets, just a working game for everyone.

Ysbriel

@Davor Hope fingers crossed that you are wrong and it’s just a new thing they are doing since even in free to play mobile games you get freebies when updates and down times happen.

TheFM

VaranisArano wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Isn't that the point of the re-download? Make assets load faster and more efficient.

Yes, there are some fringe case issues with the game, but as a whole it plays pretty well (and yes, I did PVP in the middle of MYM... only got DC'd twice in the entire event in pop-locked campaigns)

But... to complain before it's even happened and been stress tested, when they're at least trying? They have a published road map, a plan, right now. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's a start. They re-did the group finder, and it worked for the most part (at least way better than before) during the undaunted event. This year's MYM was better than many have been in the past. So, things are moving in the right direction.

(I know there are some issues on PS4 specifically... that seems to be a whole other issue, don't know what's up with that)

Yeah sorry you are just lying about mym and pop lock. Literally everyone was complaining about the performance. And since then cyordiil has giant pink blobs popping up everywhere, glitching keeps that blink in and out of existence and outposts getting confused on which assets to use so it looks like some sort of tower defense game.

It really depends. Much to my surprise, I had better performance in large battles during Midyear Mayhem than I have before or after the event ended, even in PC/NA Kaal at primetime. And it really was much better than last year during Summerset when I couldn't stay on Vivec past 10 am when the lag got crippling.

So I dunno. MYM was better for me too. Not good, but better.

Our entire guild was complaining about it being so laggy we couldnt even use our abilities or at times even move properly. PC EU was an absolute mess. And every streamer I was watching said it was lagging hard on PC NA too. If you didnt have problems you are the exception not the rule sadly.

TheFM

GlorphNoldorin wrote: »

Given previous stated supposed fixes that zos has put out..........given this track record, if I were betting.....I wouldnt be putting money on any improvements soon............... the OP has a point.

This. People think this is gonna be a silver bullet, and if it is, well ill admit I was wrong, but considering they couldnt even fix the combat bug and told us to pretty much deal with it, my expectations are very low.

tmbrinks

TheFM wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

tmbrinks wrote: »

Isn't that the point of the re-download? Make assets load faster and more efficient.

Yes, there are some fringe case issues with the game, but as a whole it plays pretty well (and yes, I did PVP in the middle of MYM... only got DC'd twice in the entire event in pop-locked campaigns)

But... to complain before it's even happened and been stress tested, when they're at least trying? They have a published road map, a plan, right now. I don't know if it's going to work, but it's a start. They re-did the group finder, and it worked for the most part (at least way better than before) during the undaunted event. This year's MYM was better than many have been in the past. So, things are moving in the right direction.

(I know there are some issues on PS4 specifically... that seems to be a whole other issue, don't know what's up with that)

Yeah sorry you are just lying about mym and pop lock. Literally everyone was complaining about the performance. And since then cyordiil has giant pink blobs popping up everywhere, glitching keeps that blink in and out of existence and outposts getting confused on which assets to use so it looks like some sort of tower defense game.

It really depends. Much to my surprise, I had better performance in large battles during Midyear Mayhem than I have before or after the event ended, even in PC/NA Kaal at primetime. And it really was much better than last year during Summerset when I couldn't stay on Vivec past 10 am when the lag got crippling.

So I dunno. MYM was better for me too. Not good, but better.

Our entire guild was complaining about it being so laggy we couldnt even use our abilities or at times even move properly. PC EU was an absolute mess. And every streamer I was watching said it was lagging hard on PC NA too. If you didnt have problems you are the exception not the rule sadly.

Still doesn't mean we are lying. And name calling and accusatory statements like that aren't going to help your case in the least. Absolutes are almost never true.

Conduit0

TheFM wrote: »

Yeah sorry you are just lying about mym and pop lock. Literally everyone was complaining about the performance. And since then cyordiil has giant pink blobs popping up everywhere, glitching keeps that blink in and out of existence and outposts getting confused on which assets to use so it looks like some sort of tower defense game.

Really, every single person? Did you take a survey of every single person who played on a pop locked server during midyear mayhem to confirm this? No of course you didn't, you just made it up, aka lied.

Also visual glitches are 100% client side which means if you're lucky you have corrupt game files which will be fixed with the redownload, if you're less lucky the problem is something wrong with your graphics driver, and if you're really unlucky your graphics card could be dying.

jircris11

Honestly people complain about how a game runs without knowing how intricate the code work truly is. If it was easy they would have done it.

Nomadic_Atmoran

Davor wrote: »

Why is Zenimax giving us a pet for redownloading the game? I believe we had to redownload the game twice before if not more. Never got no free pets. How come this time? It does feel to me that what ever Zenimax is trying to do is not going to work.

So, how about instead of a free pet for our inconvenience, just give us a product that just works and most of us will be happy. I guess after 5 years of Zenimax saying "this will be the fix" I just lost faith and it seems this is a bribe or a way to say, "well you got a free pet that you don't even own, so if it doesn't work, you got something at least."

I really hope I am wrong. Tried coming back to Xbox ESO and load times are just not fun for me.

I wish the best of luck for everyone on Monday.

This is an MMO. If youre incapable of understanding that there will always be bugs and there will always be lag then maybe go back to single player games.

Monte_Cristo

Yeah, this torchbug pet will just mean more bugs in the game.

idk

Nestor wrote: »

Just goes to show, the only thing consistent about people complaining is...

People will complain.🙄

+1

The actual complaint is ironic given the reasons Zos has for us to download the game again.

For reference, I will like Zos' January update on the performance improvement plan that explains some of the benefits we hope to gain from downloading the game again. Ofc, we will see the actual benefits after the download and I expect we will see complaints regardless of how effective the changes are.

https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/56681

ArchMikem wrote: »

I dont remember being forced to reinstall before.

And the whole point behind this reinstall is to have a better working game.

And you would be correct that we have never been forced to reinstall the game before.