If ZOS removed Impenetrable from the game, which armor trait would you use the most in PvP?

ssewallb14_ESO

Discuss.

Mr_Walker

Invigorating

Invigorating. Most under appreciated trait in the game.

Sanctum74

I wouldn't use any one trait more than any other

It really would depend on the build I’m playing, but I cringe to think of the armor repair costs in pvp. Definitely one of the better polls I’ve seen in awhile.

iCaliban

Sturdy

Sanctum74 wrote: »

It really would depend on the build I’m playing, but I cringe to think of the armor repair costs in pvp. Definitely one of the better polls I’ve seen in awhile.

Dying to players hasnt damaged armor in some time

DelosTheta

Divines + Offensive Mundus (Apprentice/Warrior/Tower/Mage/Lover/Thief/Shadow)

They could replace Impenetrable with Zerg Stopper. Makes you as invulnerable as a city guard when facing 5 or more opponents.

doomette

Well-Fitted

They see me rollin’

Sometimes off tall buildings and bridges...😬

Kilnerdyne

They should really nerf Invigorating. 77 regen for only sacrificing traits on 7 pieces of gear is just too over-powered.

Someone tries to kill you and suddenly you're healing for 77 hp every 2 seconds. You're basically immortal.
Every 26 seconds I get a Free Roll Dodge.
And every 35 casts of Force Pulse I get to use 1 free Force Pulse.

This is crazy broken.

Besides, nobody liked the Prosperous trait. Who likes gold anyway!? Basically no one.

BackStabeth

I see these types of posts so often, it kinda makes me laugh honestly.

Passive aggressive complaints against game mechanics that make it difficult for people to kill other players in PvP zones. This armor trait isn't going to be removed, so why the question at all?

If you are If you are finding it difficult to kill the players you want, because they are using this armor trait then go do what the rest of the PvPers do who are not good at killing other PvPers, go kill PVE'rs going about their quests (being facetious here, don't do it, it's just lame)

These forum posts considering "what if's" are just forum fodder

Sanctum74

I wouldn't use any one trait more than any other

iCaliban wrote: »

Sanctum74 wrote: »

It really would depend on the build I’m playing, but I cringe to think of the armor repair costs in pvp. Definitely one of the better polls I’ve seen in awhile.

Dying to players hasnt damaged armor in some time

Ty, good to know I’m so hooked on Impen I didn’t even know, still a great poll though.

Mr_Walker

Invigorating

BackStabeth wrote: »

I see these types of posts so often, it kinda makes me laugh honestly.

Passive aggressive complaints against game mechanics that make it difficult for people to kill other players in PvP zones. This armor trait isn't going to be removed, so why the question at all?

If you are If you are finding it difficult to kill the players you want, because they are using this armor trait then go do what the rest of the PvPers do who are not good at killing other PvPers, go kill PVE'rs going about their quests (being facetious here, don't do it, it's just lame)

These forum posts considering "what if's" are just forum fodder

Maybe you're reading something into the post that's not there. Projection?

BackStabeth

Mr_Walker wrote: »

BackStabeth wrote: »

I see these types of posts so often, it kinda makes me laugh honestly.

Passive aggressive complaints against game mechanics that make it difficult for people to kill other players in PvP zones. This armor trait isn't going to be removed, so why the question at all?

If you are If you are finding it difficult to kill the players you want, because they are using this armor trait then go do what the rest of the PvPers do who are not good at killing other PvPers, go kill PVE'rs going about their quests (being facetious here, don't do it, it's just lame)

These forum posts considering "what if's" are just forum fodder

Maybe you're reading something into the post that's not there. Projection?

I guess you could see it that way, but think for just a min without that preconceived notion of defending the post. What purpose or function could the question posed possibly have. There is no usefulness to exploring the possibility at all. So why then, if not because the OP is bent over this particular armor trait?

Mr_Walker

Invigorating

BackStabeth wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

BackStabeth wrote: »

I see these types of posts so often, it kinda makes me laugh honestly.

Passive aggressive complaints against game mechanics that make it difficult for people to kill other players in PvP zones. This armor trait isn't going to be removed, so why the question at all?

If you are If you are finding it difficult to kill the players you want, because they are using this armor trait then go do what the rest of the PvPers do who are not good at killing other PvPers, go kill PVE'rs going about their quests (being facetious here, don't do it, it's just lame)

These forum posts considering "what if's" are just forum fodder

Maybe you're reading something into the post that's not there. Projection?

I guess you could see it that way, but think for just a min without that preconceived notion of defending the post. What purpose or function could the question posed possibly have. There is no usefulness to exploring the possibility at all. So why then, if not because the OP is bent over this particular armor trait?

Maybe it's a thought bubble? Maybe the OP is indeed qqing about PvP?

Go find me proof it's the latter and I'll support your stance, until then it's nothing but a combative presumption on your part. Not everything is part of some grand conspiracy.

BackStabeth

Mr_Walker wrote: »

BackStabeth wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

BackStabeth wrote: »

I see these types of posts so often, it kinda makes me laugh honestly.

Passive aggressive complaints against game mechanics that make it difficult for people to kill other players in PvP zones. This armor trait isn't going to be removed, so why the question at all?

If you are If you are finding it difficult to kill the players you want, because they are using this armor trait then go do what the rest of the PvPers do who are not good at killing other PvPers, go kill PVE'rs going about their quests (being facetious here, don't do it, it's just lame)

These forum posts considering "what if's" are just forum fodder

Maybe you're reading something into the post that's not there. Projection?

I guess you could see it that way, but think for just a min without that preconceived notion of defending the post. What purpose or function could the question posed possibly have. There is no usefulness to exploring the possibility at all. So why then, if not because the OP is bent over this particular armor trait?

Maybe it's a thought bubble? Maybe the OP is indeed qqing about PvP?

Go find me proof it's the latter and I'll support your stance, until then it's nothing but a combative presumption on your part. Not everything is part of some grand conspiracy.

Oh it's most certainly my opinion. After having read so many posts about this particular armor trait, and all related to PvP it's hard for me to come to any other conclusion or opinion. I could of course be absolutely wrong. I am certainly not saying a group of people got together to post about this particular armor trait, and then decided to post about it in many different ways so no, I don't think it's a conspiracy.

I get, trying to discount everything I have said by claiming I sound like a conspiracy loon, even passively, might help you convince people I am wrong even when you state it as a possibility. But a conspiracy is made up of multiple people with the same intent that have planed, I certainly don't think of these posts that way. I think it's funny because so many people complain about it, but I don't think they all planned to do so, that's just silly.

ssewallb14_ESO

@BackStabeth The purpose is to evaluate whether a lot of unappealing trait combos are actually unappealing or if most of their best use cases are simply overshadowed by impen. Can you stop spamming my poll now?

YandereGirlfriend

Divines + Offensive Mundus (Apprentice/Warrior/Tower/Mage/Lover/Thief/Shadow)

Mr_Walker wrote: »

BackStabeth wrote: »

I see these types of posts so often, it kinda makes me laugh honestly.

Passive aggressive complaints against game mechanics that make it difficult for people to kill other players in PvP zones. This armor trait isn't going to be removed, so why the question at all?

If you are If you are finding it difficult to kill the players you want, because they are using this armor trait then go do what the rest of the PvPers do who are not good at killing other PvPers, go kill PVE'rs going about their quests (being facetious here, don't do it, it's just lame)

These forum posts considering "what if's" are just forum fodder

Maybe you're reading something into the post that's not there. Projection?

I think it's carry-over from another post where some people were talking about how powerful Impenetrable is. Certain other people sounded like they were calling for a nerf, which (IMO) would be catastrophic for the health of PvP.

The whole reason that PvP has the (albeit still limited) build variety that it does compared to PvE is precisely because there are actually alternatives to Critical Hits thanks to Impenetrable.

Sure, it funnels people into Impen for defense, but OTOH it provides more means to achieve offense than simply importing your Crit-based PvE character with no other changes to the build.

If that went away, it would be the Snipe-spammer's delight hitting everybody for 210% Critical Hits and ruining the game; the first-mover advantage would be staggering and you would have little to no ability for defense or counter-plays.

Iskiab

Infused

I’d probably run infused on the big pieces and divines on the small pieces.

Hapexamendios

Full set of Training.

Deathlord92

Not really thought about it because nothing better then my 2 well fitted 5 impenetrable perfect balance imo 😎

Vietfox

Guess i would run impregnable and whatever traits my build needs. Well-fitted, sturdy, divines or reinforced heavy chest.

Vietfox

Deathlord92 wrote: »

Not really thought about it because nothing better then my 2 well fitted 5 impenetrable perfect balance imo 😎

Even 3 well-fitted and 4 impen! If you build it right you can play a magblade like if it was a stamblade.

Langeston

Divines + Offensive Mundus (Apprentice/Warrior/Tower/Mage/Lover/Thief/Shadow)

BackStabeth wrote: »

Mr_Walker wrote: »

BackStabeth wrote: »

I see these types of posts so often, it kinda makes me laugh honestly.

Passive aggressive complaints against game mechanics that make it difficult for people to kill other players in PvP zones. This armor trait isn't going to be removed, so why the question at all?

If you are If you are finding it difficult to kill the players you want, because they are using this armor trait then go do what the rest of the PvPers do who are not good at killing other PvPers, go kill PVE'rs going about their quests (being facetious here, don't do it, it's just lame)

These forum posts considering "what if's" are just forum fodder

Maybe you're reading something into the post that's not there. Projection?

I guess you could see it that way, but think for just a min without that preconceived notion of defending the post. What purpose or function could the question posed possibly have. There is no usefulness to exploring the possibility at all. So why then, if not because the OP is bent over this particular armor trait?

I'm pretty sure you are reading way too much into this, and personally I think it's an interesting question.

In any case, there's no need to be so [weirdly] defensive about it — impen ain't going anywhere.

kargen27

I suck at build design so I will just wait until someone else figures out what the next best trait is and start using that.

Beardimus

Well-Fitted

It they reverted wards critting I'd be back to divines and damage most likely. But well fitted on a magsorc worked very well as extra mitigation actually.

The change to wards made sorcing dull in that sense. Impen all the way now and more tanky lol

bearbelly

Why would they remove Impen?

Could you not have based your thought-exercise on an implausibility and instead phrased the question more realistically?
Like, maybe, "What do you feel is the next best trait for PvP after Impen?"

doomette

Well-Fitted

bearbelly wrote: »

Why would they remove Impen?

Could you not have based your thought-exercise on an implausibility and instead phrased the question more realistically?
Like, maybe, "What do you feel is the next best trait for PvP after Impen?"

Maybe “what if impen got utterly borked up in a patch, with no fix on the horizon, what would you pick instead?”
I don’t know, I sort of like questions that might encourage creative responses, even if posed as a completely implausible scenario.

TheUndeadAmulet

Well-Fitted

People mad that the op phrased his question in a specific way rofl. It's a hypothetical question op is not saying he wants it.

But on topic, definitely well fitted. 35% roll dodge cost reduction yes please, especially in a meta that would be defined by burst, being able to survive that burst and then hit back will be more important than just BurST

CASP3R421

Divines + Offensive Mundus (Apprentice/Warrior/Tower/Mage/Lover/Thief/Shadow)

with no impen i would be running crit setups all day everyday, then there would be threads crying about crit

DTStormfox

Reinforced

Since crit damage received is a multiplicative of base damage, I would go for reinforced for defensive gear.

El_Borracho

Sturdy

Sturdy or well fitted for damage mitigation. Can always find offense somewhere

Dojohoda

Well-Fitted

Because avoiding damage is good

D0PAMINE

Depends on the class im using. Probably Sturdy and Infused for my sDK.