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Should Greymoor add children NPC's?
Carespanker
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As we all know in Elder Scrolls lore, children only seem to exist in Skyrim and it would be appropriate to add them as an edition as this expansions regional mythical npc just like dragons, indrik's, and silt striders. I don't necessarily want Braith telling me how much she isn't afraid of the guy who beat up Molog Bal... but I feel like seeing those little unkillable soon to be orphaned kids taking up space would make the game feel more alive ya know? Also, the housing people have been begging to adopt these mythical creatures for quite some time now and im sure they'd love the edition.
Regardless, my current headcanon is that everyone is just born as a fully grown adult before the 5th era until Zenimax changes that lore.
Regardless, my current headcanon is that everyone is just born as a fully grown adult before the 5th era until Zenimax changes that lore.
Should Greymoor add children NPC's? 262 votes
Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.
44%
116 votes
No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.
55%
146 votes
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Thokri✭✭✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.I say no.
Why there needs to be children? I don't want more invincible npc that break immersion even more.
Eso is not sims or modded skyrim where you can play house and that is a good thing.Edited by Thokri on February 15, 2020 6:39AM10 -
Tharonil✭✭✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.I miss children in the game. For some quests we need to rescue little sons and daughters who look much older than their parents. This is strange
Edit: But I think it would be a really hard work to implement children right now. They would need to animate different races and insert them in any old town. This is more a thing for an Eso 2.Edited by Tharonil on February 15, 2020 6:38AM6 -
SmukkeHeks✭✭✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.Don’t need those “I’m just playing the way I want” type going on killing sprees on children or leaving Tamriel orphaned4
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TelvanniWizard✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.Only if they are added through all the world, not only in Skyrim.9 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.Add em. It’s a game....
I honestly don’t care if they are invincible or not (which would be fine by me if they are not). Just make more variety of NPCs to make some quests make sense, and to give towns more variety.
Would love to see npcs with flavor. Possibly handicapped, overweight people, very old, very young (kids). Etc.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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Nemesis7884✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.dont waste development resources on petty nonsense11 -
RD065✭✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.Only if they don't talk or do anything.4 -
StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.In Greymoor? No - too soon.
Chapters afterwards? Very much Yes. Not cause our murder hobo'ing would either kill them leave or leave them orphans.
But...
https://youtu.be/JxvpECbyvyw
Need more situations like these, ranging from heartfelt to down right disturbing and everything in between. All fine an dandy, well. It is all very lack luster when its solely adults doing these things, especially in a world without children to push that envelope.
Coming across an island or campsite that reeks Lord of the Flies, or an Dunmer estate and a little Damian having a birthday party and suddenly a maid... did it all for him. Or a Breton family attempting to revive their child using old Alyeid magics in a cemetery...
Don't need to make them major, or even detailed quests, or a solid concrete lore explanation. Just random open world encounters. Once the edge lords move from Venus to Gillette, they'll understand.Edited by StormeReigns on February 15, 2020 8:45AM5 -
Thevampirenight✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.Well Greymoor they are going out of their way to add in player Vampire Lords here is the thing. There is a bunch of stuff they could be updating from Vanilla. That includes the skeleton polymorph to have beast race skeleton models. Maybe updating the goblin appearances to be more like their Oblivion models. So many things they could do. I know they don't do updates to stuff because of the way the redguard motif update was handled it really use to look nice then they changed it for females. Which was not needed but that does not mean they shouldn't update the models of the other things that really do need it. They can update some zones to have a few child npcs.
Children can be done programming the vampire lord/blood scion might have been far more work and they could have had many Child Npcs which I can see being easier. So yes if they took the time to do it like they did the Vampire lords. They can create child models and add in animations for them and then diversify their appearance and add a few of them to certain areas. Maybe like two three or even four for some of the zones. But not every zone maybe adding them to the capital cities and Wrothgar.
Given this is an mmo I do understand they do have limitations. They don't need to overpopulate the game with Children but they could at least add in maybe a few for some of the zones.
I would also like to see some varieties of manbeasts besides Werewolves as well even if they are not playable they could be added in as Monsters. That is something I do want to see them do but they seem not willing to do that for some reason. So there is a bunch of things they could do with the game if they were willing. I don't think they should overdo it with the Children but it wouldn't hurt to at least add some to the game that way players will know they actually exist. Still can leave out babies though since those would be more clutter but they could add in like a baby doll a fake of course that can be added to Cribs as a furnishing. I would not mind seeing that.
Edited by Thevampirenight on February 15, 2020 9:01AMPC NA
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boomcat✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.we dont need children ingame, why should we be able to execute,feed and so on on Children NPC´s nop... there are much more Zos can do to the game then add this.0
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Raisin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.Nah.
Mora knows best.ZOS_JasonLeavey wrote: »randolphbenoit - Why no children in the game? Feels unreal only adults and chickens everywhere...
Hermaeus Mora knows...1 -
Cactus_Back✭✭✭✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.That's not a priority for me but sure, why not. The more variety in NPCs, the better.5 -
Katheriah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.No, they'll eat my sweetrolls.4 -
vestahls✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.I miss the little brats.“He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”luv Abnur
luv Rigurt
luv Stibbons
'ate Ayrenn
'ate Razum-dar
'ate Khamira
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Varana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.Nemesis7884 wrote: »dont waste development resources on petty nonsense
I mean, they wasted development resources on making cylindrical LoS obstacles look like trees. And wasted resources to implement grass that just blocks the view and serves no practical purpose. And to create a day-night cycle with performance-eating light sources everywhere, instead of just having everything lit by the sun at noon. And don't get me started on textures - textures everywhere!
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✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.There's no point in adding children. They don't move the plot forward and are a filler anyway.PS4 EU Aga_The_Grey - retired | PC EU AgaTheGreat3 -
Saelent✭✭✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.More NPCs I can’t kill or force to leave who can witness my thieving and murderous vampiric ways? No thank you!2
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✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.NO.RIP Atherton, my beautiful little gentle friend. I will miss you forever. Without you I am a hollow shell.1 -
essi2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.Not worth the effort.
Also as I've said multiple times now.
Greymoor is for all intents and purposes DONE, if it hasn't been added already, it won't be added before release."The Heritance are racists yes? Idiots. But dangerous, destabilizing racist idiots." - Razum-dar
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Why?Carespanker wrote: »Should Greymoor add children NPC's?
As snacks for the vampires?
I mean, yeah, I for one may actually hate kids, but still would like to see them refitted to all the "safe" cities, and a couple of quests, for "Mah Immershun" purposes.
But that should be a general thing, NOT a "Oh, Greymoor" thing!
And... well... its kinda doubtful they will want to make the effort, really. Since I usually am the first to go yell "The question is, can it make extra profits for ZOS?" when people mention some idea... well... it sadly applies to things I'd like to see as well.0 -
Hallothiel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.This AGAIN?
No, no, no, no, no. Please for the love of all things holy, no.
Especially if you mean ones like the incredibly annoying ones in Skyrim with the utterly nauseous American accents. Urrrrggghh! <shivers at the memory>
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.Just no.... I'm sure they'd be obnoxious as always.1 -
Na0cho✭✭✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.How about we get game performance where it needs to be before we keep adding superfluous things that may impact it negatively.1
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes, I wouldn't mind seeing children NPC's in game.Cactus_Back wrote: »That's not a priority for me but sure, why not. The more variety in NPCs, the better.
Pretty much this.PC NA(no Steam), PvE, mostly solo2 -
ProfessorKittyhawk✭✭✭✭✭
✭Theres been one quest, from Morrowind, where you save some guys son from a Twilight who looks like be could pass as a kid, maybe a 14 year old. But I'm waiting for the day we see a full blown BABY who looks like they're a 14 year old. Kinda like the Argonians in Murkmire that are trapped in am infantile state of mind.0 -
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✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.worst children were presented in skyrim - immortal toxic and annoying
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because they're...*cough*...not immune to my bozar...0 -
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✭No, I wouldn't want to see children NPC's in game.The Skyrim kids were very annoying and I never adopted any. The only way I would want them in eso is if they were non intractable npcs.1