DoTs need to get buffed again.

Baphomet

And this is the build it needs to happen in.

All the DoTs that were nerfed a few patches ago need to be empowered by approx. 20% again.

The difference between HoTs and DoTs is simply too big right now and it genuinely needs to be balanced better.

Luede

they way is to nerf the HoTs, not buff the DoTs

Taleof2Cities

Not opposed to your idea, @Baphomet, but PTS is not really the best venue for it.

We’re trying to evaluate actual changes proposed by ZOS for Update 25 ... not player ideas that may or may not be in a future update.

Head on over to Combat & Character mechanics to start a new thread or comment in one of the many existing DoT threads.

Gilvoth

Luede wrote: »

they way is to nerf the HoTs, not buff the DoTs

then how are we kill the Tanks in this Tank Meta?
they deleted Oblivion damage.
@Baphomet is Right, DoTs need to get buffed again

Mettaricana

Why bother they'll jack it up 50% this patch nerf it 70% next then buff it 40% 3rd quarter then nerf it by 80% by 4th quarter achieving nothing..

ChunkyCat

nerf, buff, nerf, buff, nerf, buff

make up yer dam minds already

xylena

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

We’re trying to evaluate actual changes proposed by ZOS for Update 25 ... not player ideas that may or may not be in a future update.

I don't think it hurts to let ZOS know major issues remain unaddressed. This patch doesn't do anything to end the Tank Meta (performance fixes breaking the blocking system doesn't count). I will at least be coming back to try the premade-free BGs queue, that is a welcome change.

Luede

they way is to nerf the HoTs, not buff the DoTs

Gilvoth wrote: »

Luede wrote: »

they way is to nerf the HoTs, not buff the DoTs

then how are we kill the Tanks in this Tank Meta?
they deleted Oblivion damage.
@Baphomet is Right, DoTs need to get buffed again

if ur dots are so strong that u can kill the tank meta, the game would be impossible to play for medium/light armor, or classes without purge

MellowMagic

Dots do need a small buff probably 10-15 percent. Rendering slashes is almost a dps loss to use it.

Strider__Roshin

DoTs should never be very powerful. It's lazy damage that requires no skill to be efficient with. Burst damage should reign since it's instant and reactionary. "Set it and forget it" abilities only lower the skill ceiling.

ElvenVeil

Strider__Roshin wrote: »

DoTs should never be very powerful. It's lazy damage that requires no skill to be efficient with. Burst damage should reign since it's instant and reactionary. "Set it and forget it" abilities only lower the skill ceiling.

You can't ignore that dots just are a massive part of this game. you have multiple dot options on most skill lines, and it is a huge problem for the game enjoyment and build diversity of the game when such a big chunk just isn't good to use. aside from very low tooltips on stuff like bloodcraze, the problem also just is that after they buffed heals by a crazy amount, so burst has become the only real direction to take builds. Eso just is a game that has always been sold on 'play whatever you want', but since last year it has more become 'play whatever zos thinks you should play this patch'
I wish the game would return to a place where one could actually play various different builds and make them work

Taleof2Cities

xylena wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

We’re trying to evaluate actual changes proposed by ZOS for Update 25 ... not player ideas that may or may not be in a future update.

I don't think it hurts to let ZOS know major issues remain unaddressed. This patch doesn't do anything to end the Tank Meta (performance fixes breaking the blocking system doesn't count). I will at least be coming back to try the premade-free BGs queue, that is a welcome change.

Agreed, but by posting this in PTS, you and the OP are essentially asking for a four (4) week window to calculate the DoT changes, include them in a future PTS patch, and obtain player feedback on those changes before Update 25 goes live.

That’s not enough time.

That’s why this thread is in the wrong place ... and creating additional clutter for those of us trying to absorb feedback on actual PTS changes for Harrowstorm.

The same could be said for the multiple PTS threads on ultimate cast times.