Should Group remain Broken in Cyrodiil?

Thevampirenight · January 20

Just making this because it seems like people are liking how Cyrodiil was playable without groups. What are your thoughts on it should not grouping in cyrodiil be a feature or no?

ATomiX69 · January 20

Other

Reduce max group size to 12.

johnjetau · January 20

Other

I like how you are assuming there are no groups running in Cyrodiil. One of my guilds is currently using discord voice to co-ordinate a large group. I'm pretty sure, other pvp focused guilds are doing the same.

Its just pug groups, that are having issues, without access to those guilds.

Alienoutlaw · January 20

Other

Cyrodiil suffers at mo in my opinion due to the fact unlike the PvE side it forces many more players into the same instance and cant cope, in PvE you simple load to a seprate instance, make PvP a seperate server

bmnoble · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

No some sets and skills rely on you being a group for them to affect others.

That and I mainly just join groups so I know where the actual fighting is happening. If your not in a group by the time you ride out to the little icons on the map showing you where something is happening its usually over with when you arrive.

haelene · January 20

Other

Ultimately it has little to do with me (I'm not a PvP'er) and if it helps solve the lag problem for you guys... great?

I just don't see them doing that because Cyrodill is supposed to be Group v Group. It's a war zone - hence the large scale PvP.

I don't have much stake in it though.

Qbiken · January 20

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ATomiX69 wrote: »

Reduce max group size to 12.

Basically this

lpw · January 20

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.

Just gonna leave this here...

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/494988/cyrodiil-performance-group-size-and-heals

alainjbrennanb16_ESO · January 20

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ATomiX69 wrote: »

Reduce max group size to 12.

This would not work at mo in non cp they run 2x24 groups together all they would do is just have 4 groups instead of 2

Mr_Walker · January 20

ATomiX69 wrote: »

Reduce max group size to 12.

Many ball groups don't run larger than this, so this won't fix your ball group problem.

MartiniDaniels · January 20

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.

As solo player, I of course will be happy if there were no groups at all

but this will be selfish, so I guess limiting group size to 12 would be an adequate move from ZOS.
I usually play Cyro on day-offs and it is pretty clear how performance drops when ball groups appear near the evening.

Cirantille · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

No

We do guild runs a few times a week

So I can track if they are dead on map, if they are killed on bridge or gate etc
Makes life easier

DTStormfox · January 20

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.

I did vote for making it a feature but would support smaller groups (max. 8 or 12), so friends can still play together.

jecks33 · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

i like my zerg

Varana · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

Groups are the entire point of Cyrodiil.

munchkinxx · January 20

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.

We play in a group of maximum 8 people.

We stay away from ball groups of 20 plus and zergs because then we can actually see a fight to the end without blue screening, lag, loading screens or just getting kicked from server.

You cannot get near a fight of 60 plus without one side winning from sheer numbers being the survivors of not having blue screened, lagged or kicked into a long loading screen.

Breaking up the larger groups will ease up the instance pressure on the server. Simply because less calculations will be required to cover such large group buffs and debuffs, aoes effects etc...

Pretty sure most decent sets or buffs/ debuffs only cover a limited number of people in a group anyway ....?

The smart healing required for the server to calculate is a huge drain too...so stands to reason, if you want to control these issues....reduce the group numbers.

I get a lot of guilds want to group in large groups but to be fair...you have guild channels you can use to co ordinate from...I don't see any real penalty there for them but benefit in the long term, once adjusted.

LukosCreyden · January 20

Other

As much as I like the sounds of the improved performance, Cyrodiil has always been about grouping; either via premade or pugs.

As other people have suggested, maybe limiting the size of the groups may help?

Cerotonin · January 20

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.

Zone chat is the group lol

jcm2606 · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

Are we seriously asking if the large scale group PvP content ESO has to offer should no longer support grouping? The forums just keep one-upping themselves in stupidity...

CASP3R421 · January 20

yall stoopid

Emmagoldman · January 20

Other

I think at first, maybe limit the size of heals to 12 people. So bol only impacts 12 instead of a huge raid. Has zero impact on pve and would help reduce server load

Lucious90 · January 20

Other

Just adjust the max raid size to 12-16 group play is essential to Cyro, not to say you cant play solo if you're just looking to kill d00ds

TequilaFire · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

No grouping in an MMO? Please go play Skyrim.
Doesn't matter if you reduce group size, guilds will just run multiple groups.

TequilaFire · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

Emmagoldman wrote: »

I think at first, maybe limit the size of heals to 12 people. So bol only impacts 12 instead of a huge raid. Has zero impact on pve and would help reduce server load

Beacon your inner light, healing yourself or a wounded ally in front of you for 1233 Health. Also heals one other injured target for 410 Health.

Donny_Vito · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

Really makes you wonder if people are associating the right problem to the right solution. Correlation, or causation?

gatekeeper13 · January 20

Other

Yes, not because performance is better but because "less ball groups" = "more enjoyable PVP experience".

EIGHTS · January 20

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.

ATomiX69 wrote: »

Reduce max group size to 12.

This is useless. Because the ball *** groups are usually in 12 people.

ATomiX69 · January 20

Other

Mr_Walker wrote: »

ATomiX69 wrote: »

Reduce max group size to 12.

Many ball groups don't run larger than this, so this won't fix your ball group problem.

I dont have a problem with ballgroups, I have a problem with mindless lfg 24 man zergs, maybe its gonna start encouraging and promoting smaller scale gameplay when you need more zerglords to keep their lfg sheeps in check.

dennissomb16_ESO · January 20

Other

The joy of Cyrodiil is the ability to do anything from solo play to small group to large group etc. Performance needs to be fixed at the base code level, not by removing player gaming options.

NathanTheWolf · January 20

No Cyrodiil needs groups.

Groups = Army

lpw · January 20

Yes performance is so much better, make it a feature.

It would be great to see an extra campaign added which is no groups allowed. Then if people weren't feeling the performance, they could choose to go into there. Would give people the option, best of both

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