PvP is AMAZING without groups please keep it broken

merevie · January 20

We are not having crashes or lag and the ball groups..have things broken

Be in no hurry to fix it.
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Bless whoever killed it

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Llilium · January 20

i was wondering about this, that actually does kind of sound like fun. wish i thought of it before i logged for the night

Sorbin · January 20

Seconded. If this is what's causing performance issues, then holy crap keep it group-free. There's still tons of action around and the difference in performance is staggering.

Kalante · January 20

what happened? is this on pc?

rpa · January 20

Apparently grouping broke at PCNA. PCEU only got trader swap hamster keeling over before finishing the job.

EIGHTS · January 20

I suggested no groups in Cyrodiil a long time ago. Now you see I'm so right.

haelene · January 20

Wasn't the entire point of Cyrodill large scale battles between large groups? 'Cause it's a war zone?

I thought you guys had battlegrounds for smaller scale PvP.

Olupajmibanan · January 20

haelene wrote: »

Wasn't the entire point of Cyrodill large scale battles between large groups? 'Cause it's a war zone?

I thought you guys had battlegrounds for smaller scale PvP.

Wish it was that way. But Cyrodiil plague started penetrating even BGs. Ball groups careless about objectives and just playing like in Deathmatch even if it's CTR or Land Grab are getting more and more common.

Chaos2088 · January 20

Olupajmibanan wrote: »

haelene wrote: »

Wasn't the entire point of Cyrodill large scale battles between large groups? 'Cause it's a war zone?

I thought you guys had battlegrounds for smaller scale PvP.

Wish it was that way. But Cyrodiil plague started penetrating even BGs. Ball groups careless about objectives and just playing like in Deathmatch even if it's CTR or Land Grab are getting more and more common.

Yeah it is frustrating when you are the only one (or two of you) grabbing the objectives and you get a team member/s not helping at all just killing... load into deathmatches if thats what you wanna do -scratches head-

Zulera301 · January 20

the inability to group means/meant that people couldn't group up for premade teams in BGs, which is exactly the kind of blessing those games need. lol

Pauls · January 20

Who need flags when you get into unstoppable bloodthirsty and only desperate to kill as many as possible?

Ethardt · January 20

No groups in cyro, it would be the best update ever seen!
Please dont fix it.

relentless_turnip · January 20

During Alcast's stream after the Skyrim announcement they did hint there may be solo queue's for BG's in the next DLC.
I really frickin hope so!!!

P.s. Nerf Sorcs!!!

MashmalloMan · January 20

Zulera301 wrote: »

the inability to group means/meant that people couldn't group up for premade teams in BGs, which is exactly the kind of blessing those games need. lol

If you watched Alcasts stream, he suggested this straight to dungeon lead dev and the dev smiled while saying to "stay tuned" to the patch notes for U25. Looks like they may finally be getting rid of pre-made groups in BG at least.

Qbiken · January 20

relentless_turnip wrote: »

During Alcast's stream after the Skyrim announcement they did hint there may be solo queue's for BG's in the next DLC.
I really frickin hope so!!!

P.s. Nerf Sorcs!!!

As long as those solo queues has mmr disabled it can be good. Otherwise that change only caters to players thay rarely plays in BG's that doesn't struggle with insanely long queue times (like players with high mmr does)

MashmalloMan wrote: »

Zulera301 wrote: »

the inability to group means/meant that people couldn't group up for premade teams in BGs, which is exactly the kind of blessing those games need. lol

If you watched Alcasts stream, he suggested this straight to dungeon lead dev and the dev smiled while saying to "stay tuned" to the patch notes for U25. Looks like they may finally be getting rid of pre-made groups in BG at least.

What if I told you that the majority of teams you fight in BG's aren't premades, but just good players that knows how to stick together. You would be surprised how few actual premades there are.

Minyassa · January 20

Wait, so they may be doing away with being able to play BGs with friends and just forcing you in with strangers? Or am I misunderstanding?

Ranger209 · January 20

Reduced lag and fixed in combat bug? Sounds like win/win. Even if it doesn't stay out, which I don't mind if it does, it definitely warrants investigating all the different mechanisms and cross character checks that grouping involves. It doesn't stop people from fighting en masse, just not under the umbrella of current group structure.

NoFlash · January 20

no group cyrodiil in prime time yesterday was amazing! i'd say about 75% less lag. some crashes at keeps still happened, but overall, was great pvp with no groups

Fur_like_snow · January 20

Holy *** I can’t believe the difference in the lag last night on PC NA. I didn’t think this game could work that well!!! Keep groups turned off.

EIGHTS · January 20

haelene wrote: »

Wasn't the entire point of Cyrodill large scale battles between large groups? 'Cause it's a war zone?
I thought you guys had battlegrounds for smaller scale PvP.

If ZOS can handle LARGE battle, but they can't.
Only specific groups don't get lag so hard and they almost are cheating. That is not we want.

Because classes aren't balance. I even don't try to play in battlegrounds.

And after today's experience, it proves that Lag can be made. As I always said.

TheFM · January 20

I would be all for this, then people couldnt use those absurd addons that mark players for the entire group circumventing the game mechanics.