Craglorn is fun.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · January 10

Albeit I can see some thing I will need a group for. Fair enough, I'm not complaining.

Did a few things in the zone tonight and I rather enjoyed it.

Foolishly though I entered a group delve. I mean it was alright... Then I met that last werewolf boss. Oh dear...

Time to find a group for all this I think!

Nairinhe · January 10

Craglorn is very cool. I wish we had couple more of those harder zones

Mitrenga · January 10

Nice try! You won't convince us to come to that barren land!

CMDR_Un1k0rn · January 10

Mitrenga wrote: »

Nice try! You won't convince us to come to that barren land!

Oof. I cri everitim. ;-;

majulook · January 10

I do like Craglorn the only problem that I find is getting others to do the group stuff. But that also seems to be the issue with most of this game.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · January 10

majulook wrote: »

I do like Craglorn the only problem that I find is getting others to do the group stuff. But that also seems to be the issue with most of this game.

Yeah that's definitely going to be the problematic bit.

Just thinking... Is there a LFG section on the forum? Hmm.

Vildebill · January 10

Yeah, Craglorn is really great. I love that zone, my favorite since it launched

Most content can be soloed with some practice, I love to do that from time to time just for relaxing and nostalgia. If you ever get stuck and want help, give me a message if you're on PC EU and I would be glad to help out.

KillsAllElves · January 10

Incredible zone, its a shame zos caved to the whiners about it being too hard and not soloable. I wish there were more hard grouped content as pre one tamriel craglorn.

What would be really awesome if we had a trial type zone that would require a 12 man group to complete the story line to that zone.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · January 10

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Albeit I can see some thing I will need a group for. Fair enough, I'm not complaining.

Did a few things in the zone tonight and I rather enjoyed it.

Foolishly though I entered a group delve. I mean it was alright... Then I met that last werewolf boss. Oh dear...

Time to find a group for all this I think!

Yeah, that delve isn't so bad until you you get to the final boss. It's all about mechanics.

It took me a couple of tries to figure out how to solo him.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · January 10

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Albeit I can see some thing I will need a group for. Fair enough, I'm not complaining.

Did a few things in the zone tonight and I rather enjoyed it.

Foolishly though I entered a group delve. I mean it was alright... Then I met that last werewolf boss. Oh dear...

Time to find a group for all this I think!

Yeah, that delve isn't so bad until you you get to the final boss. It's all about mechanics.

It took me a couple of tries to figure out how to solo him.

I might have to switch out my skills for Craglorn, I think. I've far from given up. Just need to work out the best next step.

Soris · January 10

Mitrenga wrote: »

Nice try! You won't convince us to come to that barren land!

""Don't you have any heart at all?""

EnemyOfDaState · January 11

KillsAllElves wrote: »

Incredible zone, its a shame zos caved to the whiners about it being too hard and not soloable. I wish there were more hard grouped content as pre one tamriel craglorn.

What would be really awesome if we had a trial type zone that would require a 12 man group to complete the story line to that zone.

Posts like this always make me laugh, Craglon was dead before the nerf but you think it’s the whiners who are the reason we won’t be getting any more group zones and not the fact that nobody actually used it.

KillsAllElves · January 11

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

KillsAllElves wrote: »

Incredible zone, its a shame zos caved to the whiners about it being too hard and not soloable. I wish there were more hard grouped content as pre one tamriel craglorn.

What would be really awesome if we had a trial type zone that would require a 12 man group to complete the story line to that zone.

Posts like this always make me laugh, Craglon was dead before the nerf but you think it’s the whiners who are the reason we won’t be getting any more group zones and not the fact that nobody actually used it.

You made a knee jerk reaction by assuming that i made the assumption because of whiners it is the reason why we wont get new group zones. Thats not the case, Go back and slowly read my statement so you can better comprehend what was stated!

In cased you missed the forum threads in 2015 and 2016, forum users were blowing up the forums with "craglorn needs to be soloable" and "craglorn is too hard" threads...

Craglorn wasnt necessarily dead before 1T release, its that there are no events there and new content was coming out so players will gravitate to the newest content.

While im the topic of group zones i have no problem concluding that yes, because of whiners we probably will never see another group zone. I could be wrong and thats why i used the word [probably].

cyclonus11 · January 11

I loved Craglorn. I was able to solo most of it on my Stamsorc, but there were lots of challenging fights - some that caused me to rethink & respec my build.

The two fights that I had to ask for help:

- The final boss in Skyreach Catacombs. I needed just a little bit more DPS before I got overwhelmed with ghosts.
- The first boss in Skyreach Hold. Lots of stun spamming. Though that was before I built up 2H.

ProfessorKittyhawk · January 11

With the right build/skills/experience 90% of the delves and content can be soloed. Might be a bit difficult or slow even then, but I used my magblade to play through the zone for the first time ever since playing from 2014 release and did most of by myself. World bosses can be a bit difficulty. And there were a few group delves I had trouble with and died a bit. Like the werewolf one. Had a friend help me for a few things but, overall it was fun soloing most of it. Kinda makes me wish for more zones of that difficulty. Aimed towards groups but possible to solo. Felt more sense of accomplishment for clearing things.

Mitrenga · January 11

Soris wrote: »

Mitrenga wrote: »

Nice try! You won't convince us to come to that barren land!

""Don't you have any heart at all?""

Craglorn's landscape gets incredibly boring for me. Otherwise I spent many hours farming there for cursed VR levels.

dem0n1k · January 11

Craglorn is aweome

but... those Anke'Ra places where you have to protect a dude against a few waves of mobs can be hard to solo coz the dude keeps dying. I guess I am a bad healer lol

EnemyOfDaState · January 11

KillsAllElves wrote: »

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

KillsAllElves wrote: »

Incredible zone, its a shame zos caved to the whiners about it being too hard and not soloable. I wish there were more hard grouped content as pre one tamriel craglorn.

What would be really awesome if we had a trial type zone that would require a 12 man group to complete the story line to that zone.

Posts like this always make me laugh, Craglon was dead before the nerf but you think it’s the whiners who are the reason we won’t be getting any more group zones and not the fact that nobody actually used it.

You made a knee jerk reaction by assuming that i made the assumption because of whiners it is the reason why we wont get new group zones. Thats not the case, Go back and slowly read my statement so you can better comprehend what was stated!

In cased you missed the forum threads in 2015 and 2016, forum users were blowing up the forums with "craglorn needs to be soloable" and "craglorn is too hard" threads...

Craglorn wasnt necessarily dead before 1T release, its that there are no events there and new content was coming out so players will gravitate to the newest content.

While im the topic of group zones i have no problem concluding that yes, because of whiners we probably will never see another group zone. I could be wrong and thats why i used the word [probably].

We will never get another group zone because there is zero demand for group zones, it’s like when people asked for an alliance unlocked campaign. There are a couple people on the forums who want it but the majority of players don’t, the people who asked for it to be solo weren’t whiners they were people tired of trying to get a group for a dead zone.

Iccotak · January 11

wish we could get a compromise between Craglorn and a regular zone.

KillsAllElves · January 11

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

KillsAllElves wrote: »

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

KillsAllElves wrote: »

Incredible zone, its a shame zos caved to the whiners about it being too hard and not soloable. I wish there were more hard grouped content as pre one tamriel craglorn.

What would be really awesome if we had a trial type zone that would require a 12 man group to complete the story line to that zone.

Posts like this always make me laugh, Craglon was dead before the nerf but you think it’s the whiners who are the reason we won’t be getting any more group zones and not the fact that nobody actually used it.

You made a knee jerk reaction by assuming that i made the assumption because of whiners it is the reason why we wont get new group zones. Thats not the case, Go back and slowly read my statement so you can better comprehend what was stated!

In cased you missed the forum threads in 2015 and 2016, forum users were blowing up the forums with "craglorn needs to be soloable" and "craglorn is too hard" threads...

Craglorn wasnt necessarily dead before 1T release, its that there are no events there and new content was coming out so players will gravitate to the newest content.

While im the topic of group zones i have no problem concluding that yes, because of whiners we probably will never see another group zone. I could be wrong and thats why i used the word [probably].

We will never get another group zone because there is zero demand for group zones, it’s like when people asked for an alliance unlocked campaign. There are a couple people on the forums who want it but the majority of players don’t, the people who asked for it to be solo weren’t whiners they were people tired of trying to get a group for a dead zone.

I never seen any posts of players begging for a group zone in the early years.

Bad players will always be bad players, zos caved to the care bears thus the faction lock- nice job at putting limitations on the pvp community. Alliance lock accomplished diddly squat!

Tandor · January 12

KillsAllElves wrote: »

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

KillsAllElves wrote: »

Incredible zone, its a shame zos caved to the whiners about it being too hard and not soloable. I wish there were more hard grouped content as pre one tamriel craglorn.

What would be really awesome if we had a trial type zone that would require a 12 man group to complete the story line to that zone.

Posts like this always make me laugh, Craglon was dead before the nerf but you think it’s the whiners who are the reason we won’t be getting any more group zones and not the fact that nobody actually used it.

You made a knee jerk reaction by assuming that i made the assumption because of whiners it is the reason why we wont get new group zones. Thats not the case, Go back and slowly read my statement so you can better comprehend what was stated!

In cased you missed the forum threads in 2015 and 2016, forum users were blowing up the forums with "craglorn needs to be soloable" and "craglorn is too hard" threads...

Craglorn wasnt necessarily dead before 1T release, its that there are no events there and new content was coming out so players will gravitate to the newest content.

While im the topic of group zones i have no problem concluding that yes, because of whiners we probably will never see another group zone. I could be wrong and thats why i used the word [probably].

As I recall, the reason people wanted Craglorn made soloable is because it suffered from the same problem that all forced group content suffers from in any MMO - easy to do with instant groups when first launched but over time most players have done it and moved on to higher content so when newer players reach it they can't find anyone to group with. As you say, the complaints came mainly in 2015 and 2016 when the game was already a year or two old and there weren't enough people still tackling Craglorn to make grouping there viable.

Zardayne · January 12

Personally, I wish all delves and overland were this difficulty. I really enjoy it.

D0PAMINE · January 12

CMDR_Un1k0rn wrote: »

Albeit I can see some thing I will need a group for. Fair enough, I'm not complaining.

Did a few things in the zone tonight and I rather enjoyed it.

Foolishly though I entered a group delve. I mean it was alright... Then I met that last werewolf boss. Oh dear...

Time to find a group for all this I think!

Fighters guild passives can help if you don't have them. Otherwise if you're PCNA hmu @D0PAMINE and we'll melt that place.

KillsAllElves · January 12

Tandor wrote: »

KillsAllElves wrote: »

EnemyOfDaState wrote: »

KillsAllElves wrote: »

Incredible zone, its a shame zos caved to the whiners about it being too hard and not soloable. I wish there were more hard grouped content as pre one tamriel craglorn.

What would be really awesome if we had a trial type zone that would require a 12 man group to complete the story line to that zone.

Posts like this always make me laugh, Craglon was dead before the nerf but you think it’s the whiners who are the reason we won’t be getting any more group zones and not the fact that nobody actually used it.

You made a knee jerk reaction by assuming that i made the assumption because of whiners it is the reason why we wont get new group zones. Thats not the case, Go back and slowly read my statement so you can better comprehend what was stated!

In cased you missed the forum threads in 2015 and 2016, forum users were blowing up the forums with "craglorn needs to be soloable" and "craglorn is too hard" threads...

Craglorn wasnt necessarily dead before 1T release, its that there are no events there and new content was coming out so players will gravitate to the newest content.

While im the topic of group zones i have no problem concluding that yes, because of whiners we probably will never see another group zone. I could be wrong and thats why i used the word [probably].

As I recall, the reason people wanted Craglorn made soloable is because it suffered from the same problem that all forced group content suffers from in any MMO - easy to do with instant groups when first launched but over time most players have done it and moved on to higher content so when newer players reach it they can't find anyone to group with. As you say, the complaints came mainly in 2015 and 2016 when the game was already a year or two old and there weren't enough people still tackling Craglorn to make grouping there viable.

I doubt that first sentence very much. In 2019 there were alot of posts made players wanting dungeons (group content) soloable and trials able to run smaller groups, I dont think this will happen though. However we have a problem with too much soloable content and not enough zones like craglorn to break up the stale pve gameplay that at one time was quite decent to play now eso has become too easy and dull, pve is not challenging enough to keep players engaged as it seems every thing feels too repetitive and i think this is why there have been so many requests to increase difficulty. <Trials/dungeons excluded.

Most zone bosses are soloable and all caves seem to be rehashed content.