Alliance locked PVP

regime211

Come on the que should never be an hour plus. It's just beyond ridiculous at this point even during prime time. Thank god it seems the standard 30 day has people. Even during prime time I haven't had to wait as long. Granted I haven't been on for a few days lol.

Taleof2Cities

Long queues usually translate into good fights, @regime211 ... I'm hoping you have done enough PvP to know that by now (lag or no lag).

regime211

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Long queues usually translate into good fights, @regime211 ... I'm hoping you have done enough PvP to know that by now (lag or no lag).

I'm a day 1 so yeah I know.

ArchMikem

You get the queues cause everyone insists on piling into the same campaign.

Kel

The unlocked campaign actually had two bars full yesterday, with Kaal having a hour wait time. This was PS4 NA. Even IC had a bar full for EP and DC, with sweaty yellow of course having two bars full.

Totally understand the frustration from not being able to earn on a home campaign, but there were options to find fights in PvP. (At least on PS4 NA) Somewhat encouraging that it's been so busy lately, even with the crippling lag and blue screen fiasco.

So, I'm not sure why alliance lock is being brought up, since you'd be facing that wait time no matter the alliance you were trying to jump to...🤷‍♂️

Ysbriel

Well one thing for sure is that it has nothing to do with alliance locking.

Nordic__Knights

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

Iskiab

Could also be due to being on the more popular faction.

On PC-NA all factions will lock during prime time, and during most of the day only EP will lock. I think a lot of it has to do with people try to roll on the winning side, queue times are part of that.

regime211

Kel wrote: »

The unlocked campaign actually had two bars full yesterday, with Kaal having a hour wait time. This was PS4 NA. Even IC had a bar full for EP and DC, with sweaty yellow of course having two bars full.

Totally understand the frustration from not being able to earn on a home campaign, but there were options to find fights in PvP. (At least on PS4 NA) Somewhat encouraging that it's been so busy lately, even with the crippling lag and blue screen fiasco.

So, I'm not sure why alliance lock is being brought up, since you'd be facing that wait time no matter the alliance you were trying to jump to...🤷‍♂️

Because more than likely alliance locked is where some of the more heavier fights are at. I was in PS4 NA on the standard 30 day, and after about an hour the fights dissapeared leaving behind small scale groups which typically will just ulti dump you. The fights more than likely dropped due to people finally getting their que into the "Locked" 30 day campaign.

regime211

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Gatdangmayne

No, faction lock has caused zero issues and solved all pre existing problems.

Nordic__Knights

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

leepalmer95

Gatdangmayne wrote: »

No, faction lock has caused zero issues and solved all pre existing problems.

My sarcasm meter is tingling.

regime211

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they as in big guilds wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group. Alliance locked helped with nothing besides locking small scale groups out. I've never heard of a Big guild alliance hoping to sell a campaign. And if that is happening oh well it's a war tactic if zos stopped trying to cater to those who choose not to branch off and just learn how to play better then this game wouldn't of become such a dumpster fire.

regime211

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group.

Also I have been

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

Emp

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

Also i have been emp about 47 times. Since we're comparing.

Taleof2Cities

regime211 wrote: »

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they as in big guilds wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group. Alliance locked helped with nothing besides locking small scale groups out. I've never heard of a Big guild alliance hoping to sell a campaign. And if that is happening oh well it's a war tactic if zos stopped trying to cater to those who choose not to branch off and just learn how to play better then this game wouldn't of become such a dumpster fire.

Wut?

You probably should go back to the faction lock forum threads from last year, @regime211 ... so you can refresh yourself on the long laundry list of issues that led up to faction lock.

If you think faction lock was only implemented for players that need to "just learn how to play better", you're way off on the point of it.

Starting to wonder if you're willing to say anything to change it, whether it's true or not true.

regime211

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they as in big guilds wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group. Alliance locked helped with nothing besides locking small scale groups out. I've never heard of a Big guild alliance hoping to sell a campaign. And if that is happening oh well it's a war tactic if zos stopped trying to cater to those who choose not to branch off and just learn how to play better then this game wouldn't of become such a dumpster fire.

Wut?

You probably should go back to the faction lock forum threads from last year, @regime211 ... so you can refresh yourself on the long laundry list of issues that led up to faction lock.

If you think faction lock was only implemented for players that need to "just learn how to play better", you're way off on the point of it.

Starting to wonder if you're willing to say anything to change it, whether it's true or not true.

Never saw an issue at all with non faction locked and I ran in a big guild back in the day.

Gilvoth

Gatdangmayne wrote: »

No, faction lock has caused zero issues and solved all pre existing problems.

all truth.

Heimpai

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

Makes no difference since I deleted all but 1 non EP char..so why would I got to a dead camp? You guys got what you wanted, if we have 2 bars more than you go blame yourself

Nordic__Knights

Heimpai wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

Makes no difference since I deleted all but 1 non EP char..so why would I got to a dead camp? You guys got what you wanted, if we have 2 bars more than you go blame yourself

If im outnumbered in an locked campaign because the alliance im on aint playing idc as thats how it should be bottom line alliance hooping is b.s. and should never be aloud again makes for an funner campaign and shows TRUE LOYALTY something i view more important then AP

Qbiken

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Heimpai wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

Makes no difference since I deleted all but 1 non EP char..so why would I got to a dead camp? You guys got what you wanted, if we have 2 bars more than you go blame yourself

If im outnumbered in an locked campaign because the alliance im on aint playing idc as thats how it should be bottom line alliance hooping is b.s. and should never be aloud again makes for an funner campaign and shows TRUE LOYALTY something i view more important then AP

If true loyalty actually made a difference regardless
anything in a campaign I would be all on board with this, but since it doesn't (aside from some personal roleplay/immersive way), loyalty without being rewarded for it is pointless.

The most toxic people I've met in Cyrodil since faction locks were implemented are the faction loyalist, not the "trolls" people falsely claimed ruined the campaigns for them, which is kinda ironic. The faction loyalist/pro faction lock players are without competition abusing faction locks to ruin the campaigns far more than any zone chat troll ever did in the past.

Nordic__Knights

Qbiken wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Heimpai wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

Makes no difference since I deleted all but 1 non EP char..so why would I got to a dead camp? You guys got what you wanted, if we have 2 bars more than you go blame yourself

If im outnumbered in an locked campaign because the alliance im on aint playing idc as thats how it should be bottom line alliance hooping is b.s. and should never be aloud again makes for an funner campaign and shows TRUE LOYALTY something i view more important then AP

If true loyalty actually made a difference regardless
anything in a campaign I would be all on board with this, but since it doesn't (aside from some personal roleplay/immersive way), loyalty without being rewarded for it is pointless.

The most toxic people I've met in Cyrodil since faction locks were implemented are the faction loyalist, not the "trolls" people falsely claimed ruined the campaigns for them, which is kinda ironic. The faction loyalist/pro faction lock players are without competition abusing faction locks to ruin the campaigns far more than any zone chat troll ever did in the past.

I can handle players that stay up at gates for 2 hrs letting other alliance take everything i cant handle fighting side by side with someone then 20 minutes after fighting them on that alliance because we've pushed them to the homes and are about to take scroll thats b.s. at its best and i just rage over it

Nordic__Knights

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group.

Also I have been

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

Emp

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

Also i have been emp about 47 times. Since we're comparing.

good for you glade your 1 of an small amount of players to have gotten it i stopped trying for it 3 years ago i dont start most the time till the 3rd or 4th day of an campaign and still make top 10 most campaigns i play fulltime there after and getting it with an group is actually easy 1 reason after 1st 1 i stopped running in groups and gotten the other ones while running solo fulltime seemed more fun to know you didn't have free ap just gave to you because your able to have 23 others make you ap for doing nothingness

Artorias24

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

Kaal was always full and locked during prime time. Alliance lock has no effect on this besides we now See AD/DC being locked on PC EU while EP is on medium Pop and getting pushed to their Gates.... Since months...

And i literally never heard ppl selling campaign wins or what you mean?

Imagine paying gold so your alliance wins and you get a useless reward at the end that is worth nothing....

Nemeliom

Am I the only one who hasn't been an emperor? 🤣
I should do what most players do, start fast a new campaign, non stop for the first hs and become emperor with 200k AP.

TequilaFire

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group.

Also I have been

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

Emp

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

How is being in a "Locked" campaign more fair then a non "Locked" majority of those people who alliance hop on PS4 NA are small scale players. The "Zerg Happy" guilds will not do that. I find it annoying that people blame the down fall of pvp due to alliance hopping? When you have the main guilds who actually play for points and take keeps, you shouldn't worry about timmy,jimmy, and his friends wanting to all play on a small scale probably 12 man max group. If your 24 man zerg is getting blasted by a 12 man group! Well guess what? It seems like that 24 man zerg needs to learn hoe to play better together and be more organized.

Last time I checked! alliance locked helped nothing. I still see the Same guilds/group being farmed by those who are more Elite than them. People passing off the hammer/scrolls to another alliance, and you can still sell a campaign on a locked campaign so that logic you stated is flawed.

Im sorry to inform you of this but its not the small guilds that sale campaigns its the big guilds and campaign lock made that harder to do thankfully and please tell me im wrong ive been kicked from an big pvp guild because i won't let the enemy have an keep thats how i know who sales campaigns and fyi ive been emp 16xs and run solo have for close to 4 years now and enjoy placing higher on the leaderboads then them 24 man group players that cant fight anything but npc's or energy friends that lay down for them to boost ap like it helps them 😆 😆 😆 old saying cheaters never win stands sooooooo true even in video games

Also i have been emp about 47 times. Since we're comparing.

Are you trying to out "Gooch" Gooch? lmao

Nordic__Knights

Artorias24 wrote: »

Nordic__Knights wrote: »

Ever take it that the locked campaign is full due to people liking LOCKED CAMPAIGNS as they are less likely to be alliance hopped and there by FAIR CAMPAIGNS not full of alliance hopping AP farmers that sale campaigns to the highest bidder

Kaal was always full and locked during prime time. Alliance lock has no effect on this besides we now See AD/DC being locked on PC EU while EP is on medium Pop and getting pushed to their Gates.... Since months...

And i literally never heard ppl selling campaign wins or what you mean?

Imagine paying gold so your alliance wins and you get a useless reward at the end that is worth nothing....

Idk how long you've played but the award at the end aint something you get in your mail its the win you hold over the other side ask most pvp players and they can tell you whos won the last year or more of the campaign alliance for alliance thats the award being on top
And about you under population thats part of the game my friend and im guessing PC/EU players dont like being EP thats an choice every player has but in the end locked campaigns better then unlocked inless your just wanting to pvdoor and hoop to ap farm or sale emp titles/campaign wins and its easy to do guilds tho different alliance work together to insure it all the time if the gold is right again ANYONE whos put in time (2-3 years) knows this as WE'VE seen it going on or been part of it in some manner or another

Casterial

People need to realize theres other campaigns out.

Taleof2Cities

regime211 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they as in big guilds wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group. Alliance locked helped with nothing besides locking small scale groups out. I've never heard of a Big guild alliance hoping to sell a campaign. And if that is happening oh well it's a war tactic if zos stopped trying to cater to those who choose not to branch off and just learn how to play better then this game wouldn't of become such a dumpster fire.

Wut?

You probably should go back to the faction lock forum threads from last year, @regime211 ... so you can refresh yourself on the long laundry list of issues that led up to faction lock.

If you think faction lock was only implemented for players that need to "just learn how to play better", you're way off on the point of it.

Starting to wonder if you're willing to say anything to change it, whether it's true or not true.

Never saw an issue at all with non faction locked and I ran in a big guild back in the day.

Acting oblivious to the actual issues that brought about faction lock ... when you say you’ve PvPed since Day 1, ran a large PvP guild, and are a frequent contributor to the forums ... is not the best way to support your argument.

TheFM

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they as in big guilds wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group. Alliance locked helped with nothing besides locking small scale groups out. I've never heard of a Big guild alliance hoping to sell a campaign. And if that is happening oh well it's a war tactic if zos stopped trying to cater to those who choose not to branch off and just learn how to play better then this game wouldn't of become such a dumpster fire.

Wut?

You probably should go back to the faction lock forum threads from last year, @regime211 ... so you can refresh yourself on the long laundry list of issues that led up to faction lock.

If you think faction lock was only implemented for players that need to "just learn how to play better", you're way off on the point of it.

Starting to wonder if you're willing to say anything to change it, whether it's true or not true.

Never saw an issue at all with non faction locked and I ran in a big guild back in the day.

Acting oblivious to the actual issues that brought about faction lock ... when you say you’ve PvPed since Day 1, ran a large PvP guild, and are a frequent contributor to the forums ... is not the best way to support your argument.

especially since we had faction lock at launch =P

regime211

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

regime211 wrote: »

I never said "small guilds" I legit said if they as in big guilds wanted to still sale a campaign they can. I did not say anything about small scale other than them playing in a small group. Alliance locked helped with nothing besides locking small scale groups out. I've never heard of a Big guild alliance hoping to sell a campaign. And if that is happening oh well it's a war tactic if zos stopped trying to cater to those who choose not to branch off and just learn how to play better then this game wouldn't of become such a dumpster fire.

Wut?

You probably should go back to the faction lock forum threads from last year, @regime211 ... so you can refresh yourself on the long laundry list of issues that led up to faction lock.

If you think faction lock was only implemented for players that need to "just learn how to play better", you're way off on the point of it.

Starting to wonder if you're willing to say anything to change it, whether it's true or not true.

Never saw an issue at all with non faction locked and I ran in a big guild back in the day.

Acting oblivious to the actual issues that brought about faction lock ... when you say you’ve PvPed since Day 1, ran a large PvP guild, and are a frequent contributor to the forums ... is not the best way to support your argument.

1. I never said I ran a big pvp guild so please read before making a comment. 2nd once again I never have seen an issue with non locked campaigns. 3rd when "Certain" individuals on ps4 NA are on a specific alliance that alliance normally would win the campaign it's constantly discussed within zone chat. So making your comment on my post without true validation doesn't support your argument either.