To stadia or not to stadia for ESO?

Lady_Linux

Spending 200$ o a premiere edition and an extra controller seems steep just to try it. Esp since i'll have to buy ESO over again. BUT they are supposed to be using their own servers.

Kinda kills the need for things like steam and epic and other online services.


What say you?

preevious

They are using their servers for the clients, you just "deport" your client.

They'll probably play on the same megaserver than us, and will (at first) be barred from using mods.
I don't think it's worth it, as for now.

I might test stadia for single player games, though.

Lady_Linux

Yah nvidia streaming had issues due to the overlays not allowing certain functions like resing people because there were just too few buttons and the overlay used those slots

Lady_Linux

preevious wrote: »

They are using their servers for the clients, you just "deport" your client.

They'll probably play on the same megaserver than us, and will (at first) be barred from using mods.
I don't think it's worth it, as for now.

I might test stadia for single player games, though.

I think they must be using their own megaservers as well, otherwise you wouldnt need to buy the game over again if they were just using eu and na servers

Narvuntien

Ah yes I can't wait to double my 300 ping to 600 ping just so I don't have to buy a better computer.

Its a stupid idea unless you have super fast internet and you are playing inside the google HQ.

Lady_Linux

Narvuntien wrote: »

Ah yes I can't wait to double my 300 ping to 600 ping just so I don't have to buy a better computer.

Its a stupid idea unless you have super fast internet and you are playing inside the google HQ.

But if they have their own mega servers and not using na or eu current megaservers, there's a real possibility it would be lower, not higher

ArchMikem

I dont know why anyone would, your latency will only be worse than it already is.

Lady_Linux

ArchMikem wrote: »

I dont know why anyone would, your latency will only be worse than it already is.

^^ look at the post above yours

ArchMikem

Lady_Linux wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I dont know why anyone would, your latency will only be worse than it already is.

^^ look at the post above yours

So youre saying just any server would be better than ZOS'.

Lady_Linux

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_AntonioP @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_KaiSchober Can you please confirm that google stadia will be using different megaservers or not?

Lady_Linux

ArchMikem wrote: »

Lady_Linux wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

I dont know why anyone would, your latency will only be worse than it already is.

^^ look at the post above yours

So youre saying just any server would be better than ZOS'.

Quite possibly yes. wouldnt you like to know though if its true or not?

Lady_Linux

In another post someone on consoel c/o a mass exodus. im bettiung they are going to stadia from console.

Joker99

How does anyone believe they will be using another megaserver, do you know the expected number of players needed to warrant running another megaserver altogether? Also that would defeat the point of current megaservers, everyone in a region plays on the same server, fullstop.

Ash_In_My_Sujamma

If I were you I would be very sceptical about stadia or any other service of that kind. Give it some time, let google finish with the marketing stunts and after it's stabilized and you have some actual info in your hands, other than estimations by promotional articles, then make your decision. Two lane services like stadia are a hole in the water and anything anyone tells you atm is pure estimation and nothing more. Enjoy.

gatekeeper13

I ll never use stadia for any game. Hate the concept.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

Google is an evil company! Skynet!

Lady_Linux

Yah. It's likely just a cash grab and wont be around in 6 months to a year from now.

idk

preevious wrote: »

They are using their servers for the clients, you just "deport" your client.

They'll probably play on the same megaserver than us, and will (at first) be barred from using mods.
I don't think it's worth it, as for now.

I might test stadia for single player games, though.

Not to mention anyone with limited data per month will experience issues as it will be like streaming HD movies. i.e. in 4k that is ~1T per month with 65 hours play time. Pretty sure that includes when the game is just sitting their idle.

OolongSnakeTea

maybe I'm just an old person yelling at a cloud, (get it, stadia is a cloud based gaming?)
But
I feel like I should own my games, incase anything were to ever happen.
Even the digital licensing, sometimes I face issues.

Take for example, after EA took Dragon Age Origins off Steam, and then went over to Origin with it.
I now no longer have DA:O because it magically deleted my licence, and if I want to play the game I will need to pay for it, again, despite owning it on disk for Xbox and the digital licence I legally purchased on steam. (trust me I've had several tickets with both steam and EA about this, and no one is doing anything to help me anymore it seems).

So no, Stadia is the worst idea for gaming, for gaming consumers. There have been several other streaming-gaming sevices before, most not that big or doing very well, and it's a trend I hope that doesn't take off. Else we will face a game-stream bubble much like how tv-streaming (IE netflix, major networks, prime, hbo, ect...)

Do not like.

Royaji

I think it was announced that Stadia players will use a separate server. BUT anyone who assumes they are going to be playing on Google's servers doesn't understand how Stadia works.

In the end you will still be connecting to ZOS's server. Which is going to be equally as bad as the current ones. Just with Stadia latency (their fancy "connect controller directly to WiFi" trick didn't work, btw) on top.

ShawnLaRock

If you are posting here in the forums, you clearly already have an account on at least one existing platform... so why WOULD you go this route?

S.

chrightt

Lmao stadia for online games and your forum name is Lady_Linux. I just can’t stop laughing at this. I’m assuming Linux as in the OS but man this is quite funny someone would even ask a question like this.

ArchMikem

thesoundofwolf wrote: »

maybe I'm just an old person yelling at a cloud, (get it, stadia is a cloud based gaming?)
But
I feel like I should own my games, incase anything were to ever happen.
Even the digital licensing, sometimes I face issues.

Take for example, after EA took Dragon Age Origins off Steam, and then went over to Origin with it.
I now no longer have DA:O because it magically deleted my licence, and if I want to play the game I will need to pay for it, again, despite owning it on disk for Xbox and the digital licence I legally purchased on steam. (trust me I've had several tickets with both steam and EA about this, and no one is doing anything to help me anymore it seems).

So no, Stadia is the worst idea for gaming, for gaming consumers. There have been several other streaming-gaming sevices before, most not that big or doing very well, and it's a trend I hope that doesn't take off. Else we will face a game-stream bubble much like how tv-streaming (IE netflix, major networks, prime, hbo, ect...)

Do not like.

Exactly, i prefer physical disks as well. No one really realizes that Microsoft, Sony etc can revoke your digital licenses without cause at any time, so in the end you wasted all that money buying them.

Raideen

People still trust google?!?!?

I would not touch stadia with a 100 foot pole.

AhPook_Is_Here

I think it's where the future is headed, the essential next generation point to point connection concept will improve network game-play for non-player hosted products like this game, in a few years it will be great, and im looking forward to maybe buying one more gaming computer and no more consoles.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Lady_Linux wrote: »

In another post someone on consoel c/o a mass exodus. im bettiung they are going to stadia from console.

LoL. No. ESO won't be on Stadia until January next year at the earliest. So IF there's an exodus of console players, it isn't related to Stadia.

anitajoneb17_ESO

thesoundofwolf wrote: »

I feel like I should own my games, incase anything were to ever happen.
Even the digital licensing, sometimes I face issues.

Valid point... for offline games. Yet you're playing ESO... for which, whether you bought a physical copy or not, whether you use a local or a remote computer service, youu're still depending 100% on ZOS servers, and the minute ZOS plugs off the servers, your game is unplayable.
This argument is not relevant in the case on ESO via Stadia.

anitajoneb17_ESO

ArchMikem wrote: »

Exactly, i prefer physical disks as well. No one really realizes that Microsoft, Sony etc can revoke your digital licenses without cause at any time, so in the end you wasted all that money buying them.

I get your point, yet your physical disk can get damaged, broken, burnt, drowned or simply lost. I understand that in this case it would be YOUR fault and not some company's negligence or bad will, which is psychologically more acceptable, however, considering things objectively, are the chances of the company withdrawing your license for whatever reasons higher than your chances of damaging your disk ? I doubt that...

CaffeinatedMayhem

preevious wrote: »

They are using their servers for the clients, you just "deport" your client.

They'll probably play on the same megaserver than us, and will (at first) be barred from using mods.
I don't think it's worth it, as for now.

I might test stadia for single player games, though.

For Single Player, Stadia will be fine. For Multiplayer you will always have an extra bit of lag to the main servers, plus yes, you may be barred form using mods, or mods may not work on your UI (similar to how most mods can't affects gamepadUI).

OolongSnakeTea

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

thesoundofwolf wrote: »

I feel like I should own my games, incase anything were to ever happen.
Even the digital licensing, sometimes I face issues.

Valid point... for offline games. Yet you're playing ESO... for which, whether you bought a physical copy or not, whether you use a local or a remote computer service, youu're still depending 100% on ZOS servers, and the minute ZOS plugs off the servers, your game is unplayable.
This argument is not relevant in the case on ESO via Stadia.

This I know actually, which is why I don't dump money into the game, because at any time I could loose all my digital houses, dress up dolls and pvp killers at t he whims of Zinnimax or ZOS themselves. Because it's their servers, regardless of how many expansions, months of subscription ect. its a grey area, but one thing that as a MMO fan I know is a real thing that could happen, and at the very least MMO companies should offer after-market experiences for people who paid for their game.

Look at games like SWG or even the late Wildstar, where there was a love and intrest to play the game alive and well now, but Sony or NCSoft won't offer an offline/unsupported version for players to still play that game.

My time in this game is invested for enjoyment of a community, were as an offline game is investment into what the game mechanistically has to offer. ESO Plus is like playing for club dues.

Env_t

stadia players will have cross planform with PC players
no separate servers for them
period

learn how to google