simple_specops wrote: »Hi guys, I enjoy reading the crying the moaning and the complaining just every one else, I have played the game since beta(first on PS4 then on PC) and nearly every patch the story is the same "you're killing the game" "I just cancelled my subscription" blah blah, don't get me wrong I think that customer's opinion is a very important point and a critical thing for every kind of enterprise, but unfortunately the devs team cannot phisically accommodate everyone's needs or request, balance is extremely hard if you try to have viable options in PvP and pve at the same time, personally I don't envy what Gilliam &co are going through atm, they're trying to make the game accessible for the newer players, and still challenging for veterans, but you cannot please everyone, so what I am trying to say is either play the GAME as it is or find something else (as I am doing), but no matter how hard we cry and protest on the forums or anywhere else it doesn't really matter because with MILLIONS of players the few hundred crying and shouting are not going to change much, after morrowind half of the raiding guilds just up and disappeared, and here we are 2 years down the line moaning and protesting, but guess what? In 2 more years guaranteed there's gonna be the se thing over again, why you ask? Because eso is bigger than all of us. So just enjoy the GAME for what it is, a way to kill a few hours a day and disconnect.
Constructive feedback does get Zos' attention and we have seen this time and time again in previous PTS cycles. However, the forums are also filled with rants and rages, especially during a PTS cycle and that type of "feedback' does not get Zos' attention since it tends to not provide worthwhile information.
simple_specops wrote: »Eso is bigger than all of us
I agree with you on principle.
However, I will say that I've played less PvE in Scalebreaker than ever in the past. I just can't be bothered with completely changing my build every 3 months or so. Little changes, sure, but the pendulum keeps swinging too fast and hard for me.
simple_specops wrote: »what I am trying to say is either play the GAME as it is or find something else (as I am doing), but no matter how hard we cry and protest on the forums or anywhere else
Luckylancer wrote: »I stopped paying the game after Morrowind scam. Horse *** class (magden) + useless pvp mode (turned usefull after became free). On top of that there are stupid balance changes + pvp lags + cannon fodder set releases + pay to win releases (zaan, relequen, olorime, jewel retraiting etc.).
If there would be less lag, proper game balance and if they would respectcustomers by not selling useless stuff I could have subbed eso+ and bought expansions. They improve the game (transmute, costumes, home safe boxes) but my pain points are more important.
simple_specops wrote: »Hi guys, I enjoy reading the crying the moaning and the complaining just every one else, I have played the game since beta(first on PS4 then on PC) and nearly every patch the story is the same "you're killing the game" "I just cancelled my subscription" blah blah, don't get me wrong I think that customer's opinion is a very important point and a critical thing for every kind of enterprise, but unfortunately the devs team cannot phisically accommodate everyone's needs or request, balance is extremely hard if you try to have viable options in PvP and pve at the same time, personally I don't envy what Gilliam &co are going through atm, they're trying to make the game accessible for the newer players, and still challenging for veterans, but you cannot please everyone, so what I am trying to say is either play the GAME as it is or find something else (as I am doing), but no matter how hard we cry and protest on the forums or anywhere else it doesn't really matter because with MILLIONS of players the few hundred crying and shouting are not going to change much, after morrowind half of the raiding guilds just up and disappeared, and here we are 2 years down the line moaning and protesting, but guess what? In 2 more years guaranteed there's gonna be the se thing over again, why you ask? Because eso is bigger than all of us. So just enjoy the GAME for what it is, a way to kill a few hours a day and disconnect.
simple_specops wrote: »Luckylancer wrote: »I stopped paying the game after Morrowind scam. Horse *** class (magden) + useless pvp mode (turned usefull after became free). On top of that there are stupid balance changes + pvp lags + cannon fodder set releases + pay to win releases (zaan, relequen, olorime, jewel retraiting etc.).
If there would be less lag, proper game balance and if they would respectcustomers by not selling useless stuff I could have subbed eso+ and bought expansions. They improve the game (transmute, costumes, home safe boxes) but my pain points are more important.
So are mine, I made a Post few months ago asking for quality of life improvement rather than new content, I'm totally with you on the lag and most of all the morrowind scam (hype + call in the most followed + NDA + nerf sustain) when they released something not quite ready yet, but we've overcame that and BG isn't actually so bad now, so the sake of my post was let devs do their thing, and I'm sure one way or another the game will go on, and the ones that really like it will follow playing and I still log in and do bits and bobs and surely for the next few months I won't be doing any trials or any very hard stuff but that will give me time to appreciate the little things in the game from a sunset in Auridon to a little quest in eastmarch
To op, yes and no. We make the game, not the other way around, but at the end this is still a business and like all businesses their number one goal is to keep stakeholders happy, 101 business.
There are good and bad decisions, and lack of direction and vision only make things worse, that's where ZOS is at the moment. Fortunately not at the level of wildstar or Diablo 3 when it first launched. Wildstar shutdown and Diablo 3 had to change their entire lead team, imagine that.
Companies make mistakes.
I have to say ZOS community is really loud compared to other communities I wonder why, possibly years of neglect and poor communication? but it also shows how passionate and loyal the fan base is which is really rare. ZOS needs to acknowledge that.
brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »Except sometimes they read the forums and sometimes they change things based on it and sometimes it does indeed have an impact look at stonefist and venom claw so many complaints from so many people
Look at the pirate skeleton nerf after someone crying
It does have impact it's just not always desired impact.