How do yu kill this thing?

barney2525

So I'm doing the dragonguard prologue. And I reach the dragon. 5 wipes later.

How are you supposed to kill this fbananakn thing?? After it flies and lands the second time, you Can't avoid the red circles, even at a sprint, much less try and attack it.

load o crap

Raisin

You just run in circles to avoid the fire stuff (not big ones, more just sorta circling the same spot). Take in a shield or heal if you feel you're getting a lot of damage from them.

ChunkyCat

kill it with fire


That’s always the answer.

mairwen85

ChunkyCat wrote: »

kill it with fire


That’s always the answer.

Confirmed.

Ryath_Waylander

Don't sprint you waste stamina. A sedate clockwise or anticlockwise jog. Do not stand still, changing directions means you stand still for a moment. Use a bow or staff. With melee, you're too stationary. This is for low stat characters, high level characters just shield, run in under it's belly and melt it

starkerealm

ChunkyCat wrote: »

kill it with fire


That’s always the answer.

Instructions unclear:

Dawnblade

Run in a circle around the dragon (non-sprint) while attacking it.

Neoealth

It's kind of amusing to see all these threads about the last boss of the prologue being difficult for some players. It was as easy as killing a trash mob. I killed it in moments and just moved on with the quests. Would of forgot all about the encounter if it hadn't been for threads like this.

So what I'm wondering is, op are you still below level 50 with no cp? Because if so i can understand your problems. More so if you're new to the game. But if you are high cp and have lots of experience, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

barney2525

I ended up just running, not fighting, just running, and occasionally I would bump into a kwarma and light attack as I was jogging by.

I did kill it, thanks for the help.

That's the last time I'm doing That quest.

TheShadowScout

barney2525 wrote: »

How are you supposed to kill this fbananakn thing??

By keeping on the move. The red circles are avoidable if you pay attention and keep moving. Never stand to fight, always be in motion, and ready to dodgeroll. Food buffs help, a lot. So do good potions. Ranged characters and those with good AoE attacks might have it easier...

But yeah, this is not a fight to be taken lightly... it takes a bit more skill then the usual "faceroll 'em" bosses... which I found nifty! All too many fights are boringly easy these days... you people should have a go at pre-nerf Doshia or Sancre Tor Mannimaroc sometimes...

Abyssmol

Neoealth wrote: »

It's kind of amusing to see all these threads about the last boss of the prologue being difficult for some players. It was as easy as killing a trash mob. I killed it in moments and just moved on with the quests. Would of forgot all about the encounter if it hadn't been for threads like this.

So what I'm wondering is, op are you still below level 50 with no cp? Because if so i can understand your problems. More so if you're new to the game. But if you are high cp and have lots of experience, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't day anything...

Rukia541

Neoealth wrote: »

It's kind of amusing to see all these threads about the last boss of the prologue being difficult for some players. It was as easy as killing a trash mob. I killed it in moments and just moved on with the quests. Would of forgot all about the encounter if it hadn't been for threads like this.

So what I'm wondering is, op are you still below level 50 with no cp? Because if so i can understand your problems. More so if you're new to the game. But if you are high cp and have lots of experience, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

Same, I don't even recall any red circles honestly. I did as a glass cannon stamblade. Maybe I just killed it too fast lol. I hardly ever get a full rotation off before stuff just dies though.

There is not enough information on the OPs character to determine what the issue is, but I am willing to bet they are 0 cp and underleveled not geared. I never really had issues in the game when I was low or no cp either. I could always run brawler/rally or vigor and at my low hp its a half hp absorb/full heal. Magicka can heal on resto with absorbs easily too.

The game is pretty friendly to weaker characters as it buffs you passively but you still have to build appropriate for some survival unless you know how to play.

And yes don't underestimate food buffs, they are cheap on guild stores and make a HUGE difference. Get the best magicka or stamina one and buy tri stat potions .

JamieAubrey

How are people failing this ? I did it on a PvP bomb build, 1 AoE and heavy attack, Standing in place

D0PAMINE

JamieAubrey wrote: »

How are people failing this ? I did it on a PvP bomb build, 1 AoE and heavy attack, Standing in place

Some people likely do not have the reflexes or proper resource allocation/gear. I mean, yeah I could still do it on a sithis touch build, but even with the worst gear I can tap the most out of it despite the 5 piece being ineffective.

It could also be the mobs. If anyone reading this is having an issue with the mobs, just hold block while casting some skills like AoE's and your spammable. Keep a tri pot ready (crown ones are fine) and keep moving. Fight the dragon from a distance so he doesnt wing clip you.

FierceSam

JamieAubrey wrote: »

How are people failing this ? I did it on a PvP bomb build, 1 AoE and heavy attack, Standing in place

Says the former empress (LoL, gratz on the title, less gratz on the attitude)

Lots of people haven’t got to your level. Many of them haven’t got to a level where their character’s ‘build’ is anything other than “here’s some random stuff I picked up on my travels”. Some of them will never have been Emperor.

This is a very buggy, very crashy, very untypical PvE quest fight. Even for a final boss. So it’s not a surprise that some players will find it challenging.

You need a few things that are almost never necessary in quest fights, namely movement, shields and heals. Moreover, unlike many group dungeons, where the mechanics are introduced gradually, there’s absolutely no foreshadowing of this fighting style. So it’s an interesting choice for a prologue where the underlying requirement is that players complete the thing and buy the associated product.

Moreover, like all the solo dragon fights it’s deeply unsatisfying as 90 odd % of the damage is done by tooting the horn in carefully scripted stages. It feels very ill-judged and jars with the general puzzle oriented vibe of the prologue. As though it had been lashed together at the last moment from bits that had been rejected in the last DragonDungeon DLC.

UnseenCat

Don't worry about hitting the dragon hard early on. Most of the damage is done by your companion. (Not saying any more since it would be spoiler-ish.) The dragon flies up to the ledge and sends a wave of kwama at you in two groups from opposite sides. This first round you can dispatch pretty quickly -- they're just workers and scribs -- then the dragon will land and have approximately 52% of its health. Light attack/heavy attack it rather than wasting resources on skills or ultimates. You can't do much damage to it other than bring it down to 51% of its health. Your companion will do his special attack, causing the dragon to fly up onto the ledge.

There will be a wave of two groups of kwama again this time, but now they have kwama guards among them which take more to kill, and the dragon will drop fire on you in numerous pools. They're not as easy to spot since they're just red rings, not fully filled-in red circles of stupid. And the dragon tends to send them so they travel in from behind you. Keep moving; ranged attacks work better in this wave since you can attack and move continuously. Just kite the kwama around in a big circle while you take their health down and avoid the fire the dragon is sending. (Try to pull the kwama to your companion so he helps keep the swam busy and might take out a scrib or two in the process.) This is where it's easy to wipe -- if you stop moving, the fire will catch you. So just don't stop moving even if it will take longer to wipe out the kwama. Circling/meandering is better than doubling back or zig-zagging because you always keep moving more or less forward. Any other sudden changes in direction may make your character stop for just a second, which pretty much guarantees the dragon fire will get you.

Once the kwama are gone, the dragon will land again. He'll smack you with a wing now and then which might knock you back, but won't do a lot of harm. Stay out of line with his head, and his shouts won't do much other than knock you back as well. Shield when he does a "Fus Ro Dah"; that's probably his most dangerous attack but you can shield in time since there's a clear visual tell like any enemy preparing a heavy attack. His health is low and he's vulnerable this round. Just keep jumping in close for good attacks with skills or an ultimate or two, and pretty soon he'll be down.

The hardest part is the second kwama wave. Everything before and after is a piece of cake. I main a dual-wield/bow stamblade; I did the first landing by the dragon and the second kwama wave with my bow. Everything else -- the first kwama wave and the second landing by the dragon -- I did up-close-and-personal with my daggers and related skills/ultimate.

TragedyOA

Neoealth wrote: »

It's kind of amusing to see all these threads about the last boss of the prologue being difficult for some players. It was as easy as killing a trash mob. I killed it in moments and just moved on with the quests. Would of forgot all about the encounter if it hadn't been for threads like this.

So what I'm wondering is, op are you still below level 50 with no cp? Because if so i can understand your problems. More so if you're new to the game. But if you are high cp and have lots of experience, then I'm not sure what to tell you.

Yeah was easy to kill.

p_tsakirisb16_ESO

barney2525 wrote: »

So I'm doing the dragonguard prologue. And I reach the dragon. 5 wipes later.

How are you supposed to kill this fbananakn thing?? After it flies and lands the second time, you Can't avoid the red circles, even at a sprint, much less try and attack it.

load o crap

Eh?
How you manage to die 5 times from that pathetic dragon?

jircris11

barney2525 wrote: »

I ended up just running, not fighting, just running, and occasionally I would bump into a kwarma and light attack as I was jogging by.

I did kill it, thanks for the help.

That's the last time I'm doing That quest.

This boss "fight" was easy, just dont be dumb and stand in red. I took a few hits but no real issues on my lvl 40 nb vampire.

freespirit

I did it on my main...……. she sneezed on him and he was dead...…

Going to try it on a lowbie without CP assigned to see the difference...….. there has to be a difference right???

ShawnLaRock

Easy on my NA main, but I had trouble on my messy EU lvl45 DK. I even got stun-blasted up into the air, and over the edge of the platform where the dragon & adds spawn - falling to my death. On that character, it was one of the most difficult fights so far. Haven’t been that close to a controller-toss in decades!!! Haha.

S.

JumpmanLane

I was with some dummy kept blowing a horn and it just died.

tallenn

So, for some constructive help:

Use food buffs! There's no excuse for going into combat without them.

Hybrid builds aren't optimal. No one is saying you can't use one, but if you do, you'll have to accept that there is just some content you won't be able to do, and that all content would be easier with a full build. All points should go to either stamina or magicka, period. Also consider looking up a build online. There are lots out there to choose from. https://alcasthq.com/ has both stamina and magicka builds for every class.

If you have access to a damage shield, keep it up (sorc, DK, and templars), and templar and warden can keep healing going all the time, pretty easily. For magicka players, there is a light armor skill line damage shield, and if you are stamina, there is an undaunted skill line damage shield. Every class has some kind of self healing.

As mentioned, just keep moving to avoid the red circles. You can stay ahead of them without sprinting.

Recommend gold for weapons and at least purple for armor and jewelry, but purple jewelry can be tough if you don't have lots of gold, so blue can work for that. Also, use sets. If you are just using found and quest garbage, don't. Get sets.

If your character is just really low level, then maybe consider that it isn't ready to fight a dragon?

freespirit

As I said in another thread, on my Templar, using jabs, I positioned myself very close to his body under his wing, he died shortly after second horn blow, never saw a fireball....

So that was my main...… it occurred to me that I found it so easy because it was my main!

To check this out, tonight I did the quest on my lvl 4 templar, I used the same positioning and again the fight was easy, also on this character I have NOT assigned any CP points, she was however wearing good armour and using a good staff(all purple). I save all my baby sets for re-use

Sylvermynx

Eh, there's some other stuff to consider too. Not everyone has very low ping. I don't - even with "better" satellite. So reading about the fight, I decided that spending time to get to the boss fight would == not getting a damn thing (as happens all too often in this game, and is the MAJOR bummer I have to deal with).

So I just chose not to bother. As usual.

I can get through an occasional vanilla delve - if I'm really lucky and there's someone else in there who doesn't mind "helping". That's about it. Yes, the new sat is better - but it's still majorly gimped as opposed to "real broadband".

Where I live, there will not in my lifetime be "real broadband". Yep. I love where I live (except for late spring, summer, and early fall) but real broadband is NOT part of that. At all.

Oh, btw. I live in the US, 40 miles from the nearest "real" broadband. I consider, all things considered, that I live in the back of beyond.

Jhalin

Honestly I was pleasantly surprised I even had to move my character at a walk, as so many “boss” fights don’t even require that.

But if you’re struggling there’s something really really wrong with how you’ve set up your character.

ArielSira

A few weeks ago I started on NA server and did this prologue by accident; it was a tougher fight than expected and died 3 times. On my EU main (cp 1045) it was a breeze.

Melilotta

Same as some ppl say: it's been easy on my main (EU), but really difficult on a low lvl no-CP char (NA). I died many times during the second kwama wave before I understood that the important thing was to run away from the circles. If you can live through the second wave the fight is won!

ShellaSunshine

The dragon takes most of the damage from the horn.

You focus on killing all of the adds.

Then after the horn, just circle around the dragon to prevent damage taken and throw down any AoE abilities.

After the 2nd and 3rd horn, damage him with all of your might while also moving around him to avoid damage.

This is where you need to use your biggest AoE or highest damage ultimate ability.

mocap

somewhere in ZOS headquarters:

- BOSS: ATTENTION everybody, we registered at least one problem killing dat stupid dragon in prologue quest! Solutions?
- nerf templar?
- nerf sorc?
- nerf overland?
- BOSS: WHO SAID THAT? Remind me to give you a bonus $ at the end of the month

russelmmendoza

New guys, right?