Para Bellum

fred4

Does anyone use this set?

Shield comes to 6.7K in CP PvP with 16% into Bastion. I figure you permanently get the shield, if you don't take damage for 10s?

I couldn't see myself giving up a 5 piece for this. What if ZOS buffed the shield size by 50% and reduced the timeout to 6s? Would you use it then?

Might suit as gank protection. On the other hand, it may actually suit ganking nightblades. Could help with staying on the attack for a little longer. Two stamina bonuses are not ideal, though. Dampen / Harness can be inconvenient to cast before a gank. Usually no time for that and might involve a bar swap. This set might play quite well, if it was a little stronger and had better 2/3/4 bonuses, but it's hard to say. I see it more for a light armor build.

Pauls

You want free 10k shield with 6 seconds recovery? Thats too much.

remilafo

Pauls wrote: »

You want free 10k shield with 6 seconds recovery? Thats too much.

nah.. that placement would be just about right. Even then I don't see it being used. It has such a narrow scope of usage and quite frankly ganking or anti-ganking pvp is literally the worst and most boring pvp.

For it to be used and start appearing in builds i think it would have to be Over-tuned. Like 15K shield on 5s cooldown.. Obviously OP but it would start showing up.

Imo the set needs a re-work, into a pseudo healing set..

Current: (5 items) Gain a damage shield that absorbs 12040 damage if you have not taken any damage in the last 10 seconds.

Proposal: (5 items) Gain a 602 damage shield every 0.5s which stacks up to 12040. *** numbers are negotiable ***

starkerealm

Pauls wrote: »

You want free 10k shield with 6 seconds recovery? Thats too much.

Hatchling's Shell, 20% of max health every 15s.

So, that works out to be 10k if you have 50k health. (That said, it is affected by Bastion, so you only need ~40k health to get a 10k shield from it.)

ccfeeling

There are many garbage sets in the game .

starkerealm

ccfeeling wrote: »

There are many garbage sets in the game .

Para Bellum used to have a use. Because you couldn't crit when you hit a shield, Para Bellum was a really good set for soaking off sneak attacks in Cyrodiil.

But, then Mirkmire.

Now the set is a dubious pic at best.

kind_hero

They need to change this set...

fred4

Pauls wrote: »

You want free 10k shield with 6 seconds recovery? Thats too much.

The shield is not free: You give up a 5-piece bonus for it. It's also not a 6-second recovery. In a prolonged fight it won't work at all. It will really only proc between fights or in fights where you constantly engage and disengage. In other words: In fights involving nightblades. It's either gank protection or a pseudo-tanky set for nightblades themselves.

Even when shields could not be crit, a 6.7K shield wasn't good. Some stamblades would cut through it in 1 GCD and then some. 10K (in CP) is roughly where I find that shields become interesting. Anything much below that sucks.

Magblade was IMO always hardest hit by the consecutive nerfs to shields over the years. Their healing through aggressive combat was also nerfed, compared to what it once was. They used to be tops in that regard, now I'd rate magden much higher for example. I never copped on to Para Bellum being intended for nightblades before. It won't change the fundamental dynamic of how they fight. If cloak fails, the set will be completely useless, but I thought it might be interesting, if the stats were better.

Decimus

Would be a decent set if it was off barrable.

Currently you have to spend 10 seconds on the bar with 5p of that set before you get the shield.

It's not like other proc sets where the cooldown ticks down no matter which bar you're on.

Taleof2Cities

Lots of good points in this thread.

Hopefully ZOS is reading ... and has envisioned another 5-piece set audit soon.