Wardens get Minor Vulnerability, but...

BlissfulDeluge

Nightblades don't get Minor Berserk or an equivalent.

This is balanced.

pod88kk

Personally I really like that change, frees up a spot for one of our healers to wear a different set by swapping a skill.

MartiniDaniels

pod88kk wrote: »

Personally I really like that change, frees up a spot for one of our healers to wear a different set by swapping a skill.

He means that warden now have permanent minor berserk and ranged easy and cheap minor vulnerability, while nightblade was ripped of his temporary minor berserk and ability which provides minor vulnerability puts your backside on focus both in PVP and PVE and also was nerfed as hell each patch.

Not to mention that magplar has god rays which is best execute in the game both PVP and PVE, while nightblade's execute was nerfed as hell too and though still viable it is much worse then god rays.

Really, magblade was nerfed EVERY PATCH 7 PATCHES IN A ROW and lost any purpose other then self-inflicted challenge and ranged-LA-weaving training machine and still we receive just new pack of nerfs in this patch (both PVP and PVE lol), while warden and magplar receive new really cool features. Of course we have nothing again changes to magplar and wardens, we just ask to return what is ours by right of being called nightblade, i.e. single target assassin, not a bomberman in PVP and "why somebody even playing magblade lol" in PVE.

LeHarrt91

Yeah but minor vulnerability can also be applied by sorcs, IA and shock glyph, it really isnt that big a buff. and with berserk you can get it from slimecraw, and for wardens berserk in pve its null due to combat prayer, and in pvp wardens have fewer ability choices compared to NB.

Royalthought

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Yeah but minor vulnerability can also be applied by sorcs, IA and shock glyph, it really isnt that big a buff. and with berserk you can get it from slimecraw, and for wardens berserk in pve its null due to combat prayer, and in pvp wardens have fewer ability choices compared to NB.

Wha? This is a poor justification.

If they were no big deal why was it important to strip them from nightblades?

LeHarrt91

Royalthought wrote: »

LeHarrt91 wrote: »

Yeah but minor vulnerability can also be applied by sorcs, IA and shock glyph, it really isnt that big a buff. and with berserk you can get it from slimecraw, and for wardens berserk in pve its null due to combat prayer, and in pvp wardens have fewer ability choices compared to NB.

Wha? This is a poor justification.

If they were no big deal why was it important to strip them from nightblades?

But when warden was introduced they both had minor berserk and for quite some time, didnt they remove it from NB to give them survivability?
But really i dont see why they didnt just move it to another skill, in pve berserk is applied by combat prayer anyway and in pvp, i dont think players are using reaping mark to get Major Berserk.

sneakymitchell

Well at least dk can a different version of minor vulnerability which is stone giant. From what I’m reading

ESO_Nightingale

I think this is a bad change. But not for your reasons. Vulnerability and Berserk with other passive slotted raw damage things on our class points at a larger picture. We wouldn't need all of these raw damage effects if our class skills actually synergised with eachother. They all feel like they're disconnected from eachother. And this needs to change. That way, we can reorganise these raw damage effects to something interesting. Take Bird of prey for example. It's not a good movement tool. It's just barely average. But everyone is okay with that because slotting the skill gives +10% damage which we need because of our other problems.