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How hard of a Nerf do you think Templar will get?
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Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭How hard of a collateral nerf do you think stamplar will get?
Fixed it for you. : /Edited by Solariken on September 13, 2019 10:49PM17 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Is this Templar on it's own?
Or Templar once the DOTs meta gets nerfed and everyone's not saying "Just slot Purge"?
Or Templar relative to the classes who are actually getting love next update: DKs, Wardens, and Sorc's?
Let's be honest: if this update is a high point for Templars, there's only one direction they can go.0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭Everybody crying because sorc and nb not bis.
Templar killed me - nerf templar, same old same old.
Also this thread was made last week too!13 -
chris211✭✭✭✭the only issue with Templar at the moment is the single target dots and the already insane damage the Templar can do on top of that and the bubble takes it over the top even more1 -
The_Old_Goat✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hey Chicken Little, can we wait til we get some facts before we start trying to push everyone into the "sky is falling" panic mode?9 -
Kalik_Gold✭✭✭✭✭
✭Templar was not seen as strong previously. Adjusting that class isn’t necessary adjust the skills that were changed to create the current meta.
Stamplar main, and haven’t even played him as much as other classes.Main: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade (Bomber)
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight (Tank)
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight (Damage)
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar (Healer)
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden (One-Bar)
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade (Thief)
Leveling...
Two-Big-Horns an Argonian Arcanist
Styx of Akatosh a Goblin* Arcanist
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
__________________________Backstories:_________________________
Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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StormeReigns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wonder how many who have died to a templar have only rushed in focused on their tunnel vision to just kill the templar, ignoring; all the possible other threats that are around them that may not show up in the kill log. Or ignoring the fact that majority of them are probably overreaching from their group to get melted down by multiple people at once. Or thinking they are godtier (despite they are moderate to average) and believe they can go 1vXX before coming to the forums to extinguish the Templar's (literal) shine...
The world may never know...5 -
LuxLunae✭✭✭✭✭Templar doesn't need a nerf... they are using Direct damage while everybody is protecting against DoTs... Since templars can cleanse..they don't need no stinking DoT defense...(hmm nbs can suprress dots ...thats probably why theycan also direct damage gank u)4
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chrightt✭✭✭✭Most likely just eclipse getting toned down being the main thing. DoT like entropy scaled down for everyone not just magplar. Soul trap scaled down for lower level BG. Everything else probably won’t see a drastic nerf (more likely on the lines of getting tweaked and reworked.) Other classes getting indirectly buffed because DoT clears with purge aren’t as powerful/important anymore will probably be the biggest reason why you might feel like magplar will get “nerfed”.0 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I don't care, find my DK better than my templar...I will play templar after its "nerfed" so there are no excuses for my foes!1 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Overall it's not really Templars' fault.
ZoS created a catastrophic DoT meta...
Players created (or began replaying) Templars to somewhat alleviate this...
On top of the existing Templar mains, you now have this influx of other Templars...
With their excellent array of skills to counter both DoTs and direct damage, impressive heals, and the ability to use these strong DoTs as well, it has become very difficult to fight hordes of Templars...
Templars are in a very good spot right now but not really deserving of a major nerf or nerfs. The one exception that I feel needs adjustment is Living Dark.
History has shown that they tend to over-nerf though so put a poncho on for the sh!tstorm coming.Edited by brandonv516 on September 13, 2019 11:59PM4 -
Froil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hopefully not at all.
They should be buffing all classes up instead of nerfing them down, especially since, as @Solariken said, stamplars will probably be hurt by whatever they'd do to magplars.
If Sweep was too strong, too fast or something, they'd make changes to Sweep and Jabs, to make them equal; same thing with Channeled and Restoring Focus, Aurora and Binding Javelin, even Ritual of Retribution (which scales off highest stat, but only does magic damage) can be used decently in PvE for some good damage and extra healing if you can keep up with the cost."Best" healer PC/NA1 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭
Bruh, I've got two Templars maxed out and I completely understand countering the forums when a class is talked about being strong but least threatening? Lol0 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭nafensoriel wrote: »They'll make jabs single target and BOL will be changed to a damage spell.
LEAVE my jabs alone!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!1 -
x48rph✭✭✭✭✭
✭Honestly think other than toning down the bubble some, templars will be just fine since they are going to reduce dot damage and therefore purge won't be nearly as valuable. I don't see how they need a nerf in any other way, they'll still be in a decent spot, not OP but not garbage either.0 -
Tatanko✭✭✭✭
They should be very afraid of our TemplarsRoyalthought wrote: »Bruh, I've got two Templars maxed out and I completely understand countering the forums when a class is talked about being strong but least threatening? Lol
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technohic✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Im not sure bout how much, but I am pretty sure it will be in ways that seem uncalled for0 -
freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I have 2 max templars, one is my main and has been since late 2014, the other is PVP levelled, she grew up in below 50 PVP...…..
Atm both are stronger than they have been for what seems like ages...….
I'm sure there will be nerfs but tbh I stick with what I know and it's all happened before, the cycle of best class is strong in ESO!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!2 -
Commancho✭✭✭✭✭Can anyone explain what's OP in Templar class. Or maybe it's another counter productive nerf thread.2
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freespirit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Can anyone explain what's OP in Templar class. Or maybe it's another counter productive nerf thread.
It's a PVP thing...…… as per usual...… Templars are killing peeps......peeps are too lazy to adapt their builds.....class needs nerfing!
When people say to me........
"You're going to regret that in the morning"
I sleep until midday cos I'm a problem solver!2 -
Vhozek✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ah yes, nerf something so the next thing is op, nerf that too, and the next, and the next. Eventually, Templar will be op again and the entirety of the game will come down to "deal 1 damage" while the op stuff deals 2 damage and we'll somehow want a nerf for that too. This game doesn't even have that many things to work with when it comes to skills and stats so buffing instead of nerfing is not such a bad idea as oppose to LoL where there's like 500+ skills.𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.5 -
Calboy✭✭✭✭✭
Oh bullish.. You do realise there are active dizzy threads not tied to just the stamplar. Also magicka templar is WAY over tuned just like the dizzy/onslaught/execute combo and I hope both get put into the dumpster along with stamblades.4
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