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Furniture devs, a little more awareness please!

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Would you look at this picture below. Do you see what's wrong here? In this subforum, there have been suggestions for hundreds and hundreds of furniture items that already exist as ingame models, but which we have no access to as furniture items. You can even take a look at the 'wish list' post in my signature for a very long list of many of these items. Yet update after update you keep passing over these wished for items, and what do you do instead? Give us this same Khajiit statue in no less than four almost similar iterations.
Statue #3 is achievement item from Grahtwood, and statue #2 is achievement item from Reaper's March. Ok, 2 statues, one coloured with no pedestal, and one with no colour on a pedestal. That would have been plenty enough variety already. But then you went ahead with Scalebreaker, and added statue #4, which is a mastercrafter recipe. It's almost completely similar to the #3 one, except a tiny variation in colour scheme and pedestal ornaments. What on earth made you think that what we really wanted was another almost identical copy of a cat statue as a recipe, instead of adding maybe a recipe for one of the 40+ other statues we have no access to as furniture items whatsoever.
And now this, statue #1, which was added this weekend as luxury items. A complete identical copy of statue #2, with the addition of the small pedestal. That makes no less than four cat statues, almost identical to each other, with tiny variations, and 40+ other statues from older DLC and even base game, that we have no access to whatsoever as furniture items, because you "wasted" a mastercrafter recipe and a luxury item slot with these cat clones instead. I'm baffled, and I think it shows how out of touch you are with the furniture/housing community, as you have showed time and time again when releasing new furniture items, or more importantly, not releasing new furniture items.

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  • Kiyakotari
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    Yeah, I saw that and thought, " Finally, a lux vendor weekend I don't need to spend any any gold on!"
    @Kiyakotari
    PC/NA CP810+
    EP Myraian - Saxhleel Dragonknight - Tank ǀ Librarian ǀ Mercenary ǀ Mastercrafter ǀ
    EP Duoillaume the Hammer - Altmer Nightblade - DD ǀ Master Thief ǀ Silencer ǀ First Bitten ǀ Scion of Lamae Bal ǀ
    AD Khourilen - Bosmer Sorceress - DD ǀ Adherent of the Green Pact ǀ Vampire ǀ
    AD Khourílen - Bosmer Warden - Healer ǀ Adherent of the Green Pact ǀ Vampire ǀ
    EP Wren Llawcáe - Nord Templar - Tanky DD ǀ Werewolf ǀ
    EP Faník-Azeez-Xal-Sahtee - Saxhleel Templar - Healer ǀ Akssel'sal of the Hist ǀ Seer ǀ
    AD Maehlía - Altmer Dragonknight - DD ǀ Thief ǀ Executioner ǀ Vampire ǀ
    AD Khasabi'daro - Khajiit Nightblade - DD ǀ Alkosh's Fang ǀ Silencer ǀ
    EP Hírosvørn the Axe - Nord Dragonknight - DD & Off-Tank ǀ Werewolf ǀ Packmaster ǀ
    DC Maz'groktha - Orsimer Warden - DD ǀ Mercenary ǀ
    AD Rilmerea – Dunmer/Altmer Sorcerer - DD ǀ Thief ǀ Assassin ǀ Psijic Mage ǀ
    AD Darryl Llawcáe - Altmer Templar - DD ǀ Devotee of Akatosh & Julianos ǀ
    AD Don'jarsi Zilarra - Khajiit Warden - DD ǀ Thief ǀ Dark Brotherhood Assassin ǀ Quicksilver Mercenary ǀ
    AD Kalathihre - Altmer Templar - Tank ǀ Quicksilver Mercenary ǀ Devotee of Two Moons Dance ǀ
    EP Adshäthir Ashayr - Redguard Templar - DD & Healer ǀ ǀ
    DC Praxidike Heladren - Imperial Necromancer - Tank ǀ Quicksilver Mercenary ǀ
    DC Angharad Crowe - Breton Necromancer - Healer ǀ
    DC Venelthir - Altmer Dragonknight - DD ǀ

    @RapidTwitch
    PC/NA CP190+
    EP Lothakar Wulfsbane - Nord Templar - DD ǀ Ebonheart Pact Colonel ǀ
    EP Ysleishia - Maormer (Dunmer) Sorcerer - DD ǀ ǀ
    EP Holdwyn Gentle-Hands - Nord Warden - Healer ǀ ǀ
    EP Hestla Hard-Eyes - Nord Sorcerer - DD ǀ ǀ
    DC Adshäthir - Redguard Templar - DD ǀ ǀ
    AD Maehlia - Young Altmer (Bosmer) Dragonknight - DD ǀ Thief ǀ Executioner ǀ
    AD Do'Rashai - Khajiit Nightblade - DD ǀ Quicksilver Mercenary ǀ
    AD Findaelnir - Bosmer Nightblade - DD ǀ Quicksilver Mercenary ǀ
    EP Rus-Txaetli-Xajhithi-Tzel - Argonian Dragonknight - DD ǀ Quicksilver Mercenary ǀ
    EP Mota-Khaan-Keshu - Argonian Warden - Healer ǀ Quicksilver Mercenary ǀ
    EP Rilmerea Vashi – Dunmer/Altmer Nightblade - DD ǀ Escaped Dunmer Slave ǀ

    @Misidae
    PC/NA SUB50
    EP Miss-Tanks-Were-Made - Saxhleel Dragonknight - Tank ǀ
    EP This-Is-A-Miss-Tank - Saxhleel Dragonknight - Tank ǀ
    EP Always-Miss-Tanks - Saxhleel Dragonknight - Tank ǀ
    EP Heinrik Hammerfist - Nord Sorcerer - Healer ǀ Akssel'sal of the Hist
    EP Torbjørn the Stout - Nord Warden - Healer ǀ Akssel'sal of the Hist
    EP Dalami Othren - Dunmer Nightblade - Healer ǀ Akssel'sal of the Hist
    AD Kiheh'Dra - Ohmes Nightblade - DD ǀ
    EP Llasi Faveran - Dunmer Warden - Healer ǀ Devotee of Boethiah ǀ

    @Sadagat
    PC/NA SUB50
    AD Mulimah Ashayr - Altmer Templar - DD ǀ Master Thief ǀ Hereditary Ash'abah ǀ
    DC Harauk gro-Durga - Orsimer Templar - Healer ǀ Priest of the Green ǀ
    DC Lakhim al-Hassef - Redguard Nightblade - DD ǀ Werewolf ǀ Lionguard ǀ
    EP Fanik-Azeez-Xal-Sahtee - Saxhleel Templar - Healer ǀ Akssel'sal of the Hist ǀ Seer ǀ
  • SantieClaws
    SantieClaws
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    This weekend Khajiit kept her gold to herself yes.

    Incidentally the Moons Blessed Wagon that was on the pts. The totally open and decoratable caravan that this one hoped would come with the meadow.

    Does anyone know anything about this and when it might be available? This one really hoped to have some for Claws Meadow Village.

    It looked good and seemed finished. No reason to hold it back no?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws
    Clan Claws - now recruiting khajiit and like minded others for parties, fishing and other khajiit stuff. Contact this one for an invite.

    The Santie Claws College of Pocket Engineering - Tange, tange, transfige!

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    https://www.imperialtradingcompany.eu/ - this week our stall is in Daggerfall - for all your shopping needs yes!

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  • Shadow_Akula
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    Meanwhile I await an intact variant of the St.Pelin statue one of the few statues I would actually like to get a variant of. 🙄 gg Zenimax, 4 exactly the same statues oh well.

    Oh and for the same luxury week next year I predict statue 5 of the exact same with an orange flame instead of something actually new.
    This weekend Khajiit kept her gold to herself yes.

    Incidentally the Moons Blessed Wagon that was on the pts. The totally open and decoratable caravan that this one hoped would come with the meadow.

    Does anyone know anything about this and when it might be available? This one really hoped to have some for Claws Meadow Village.

    It looked good and seemed finished. No reason to hold it back no?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Have an image of this wagon? I haven’t seen it yet and I’d like to know how it differs from the 2/3 khajiit wagons already in game (that I know of...), the basic one and the one you can get from the writ vendor (destroyed variant available from the achieve furnisher in Anequina)
    If not its ok thought I’d ask but don’t mind waiting for its actual release 🙂
    XBL GT: Shadow Akula 96
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    Oh you guys complaining about ZoS lack of communication? If only a certain community tried to warn you guys of this only for whiteknights and ZoS to silence us.

    Also heads up white knights. Public forum. Everyone has opinions. We are allowed to share our opinions regardless of “it’s free” or whatever excuse you wanna use. Public. Forum. Public.
  • SantieClaws
    SantieClaws
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    Here we go

    https://flic.kr/s/aHsmGC4TGh

    Three screenshots there. The stuff in the first picture is stuff I was actually able to place on the shelves inside.

    Ah it's a cart not a wagon like the others - how confusing!

    Still really, really want it though.

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws
    Clan Claws - now recruiting khajiit and like minded others for parties, fishing and other khajiit stuff. Contact this one for an invite.

    The Santie Claws College of Pocket Engineering - Tange, tange, transfige!

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    https://www.imperialtradingcompany.eu/ - this week our stall is in Daggerfall - for all your shopping needs yes!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/wenxue2222/videos
  • Shadow_Akula
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    Here we go

    https://flic.kr/s/aHsmGC4TGh

    Three screenshots there. The stuff in the first picture is stuff I was actually able to place on the shelves inside.

    Ah it's a cart not a wagon like the others - how confusing!

    Still really, really want it though.

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Wagon/Cart pretty much the same thing (ZoS often swap between the two every second cast/wagon in a list) and so it’s an opened version of what the writ master sells? 🤔 think I’ll wait for this one to come out and save my writs for other things...
    Thanks for sharing the pics Santie 🙂
    XBL GT: Shadow Akula 96
    YT channel: Shadow Akula 96
    Oh you guys complaining about ZoS lack of communication? If only a certain community tried to warn you guys of this only for whiteknights and ZoS to silence us.

    Also heads up white knights. Public forum. Everyone has opinions. We are allowed to share our opinions regardless of “it’s free” or whatever excuse you wanna use. Public. Forum. Public.
  • Emathides
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    This weekend Khajiit kept her gold to herself yes.

    Incidentally the Moons Blessed Wagon that was on the pts. The totally open and decoratable caravan that this one hoped would come with the meadow.

    Does anyone know anything about this and when it might be available? This one really hoped to have some for Claws Meadow Village.

    It looked good and seemed finished. No reason to hold it back no?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Santie, I think that one is coming with the furniture pack that is currently on PTS and hasn't been released on live..I think it's called Khajiit Life and includes the wagon, well, tools and other farming type items.
  • katanagirl1
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    I agree that #3 and #4 are too similar, and I’d rather pay gold for the achievement statue than use the mats needed to create a legendary furnishing item, so I did not purchase that new gold plan at the writ vendor.

    Item #1 is an in-game path marker in Reapers March, something I’ve actually wanted, so I bought some at the luxury vendor this past weekend. I just wished they weren’t 75k each, I could have used more.
  • SantieClaws
    SantieClaws
    Community Ambassador
    Emathides wrote: »
    This weekend Khajiit kept her gold to herself yes.

    Incidentally the Moons Blessed Wagon that was on the pts. The totally open and decoratable caravan that this one hoped would come with the meadow.

    Does anyone know anything about this and when it might be available? This one really hoped to have some for Claws Meadow Village.

    It looked good and seemed finished. No reason to hold it back no?

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws

    Santie, I think that one is coming with the furniture pack that is currently on PTS and hasn't been released on live..I think it's called Khajiit Life and includes the wagon, well, tools and other farming type items.

    Ahhh this one needs all of these things for the village yes.

    Hoping to see them soon!

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws
    Clan Claws - now recruiting khajiit and like minded others for parties, fishing and other khajiit stuff. Contact this one for an invite.

    The Santie Claws College of Pocket Engineering - Tange, tange, transfige!

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    https://www.imperialtradingcompany.eu/ - this week our stall is in Daggerfall - for all your shopping needs yes!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/wenxue2222/videos
  • SantieClaws
    SantieClaws
    Community Ambassador
    Just noticed the wagon is in the loading screen art for the meadow ...

    Yours with paws
    Santie Claws
    Clan Claws - now recruiting khajiit and like minded others for parties, fishing and other khajiit stuff. Contact this one for an invite.

    The Santie Claws College of Pocket Engineering - Tange, tange, transfige!

    PAWS (Positively Against Wrip-off Stuff) - Say No to Crown Crates!

    https://www.imperialtradingcompany.eu/ - this week our stall is in Daggerfall - for all your shopping needs yes!

    http://www.youtube.com/user/wenxue2222/videos
  • Tigerseye
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    Actually, it annoys me when stone colours don't go together, as I feel that stone (unlike wood) feels more structural and is often local to the specific geographical area it's in.

    So, it can look out of place if you try to introduce a totally foreign stone colour; especially if the colours clash.

    So, I'm quite happy to have the different colour options and feel there should be more stone colour options in other things, like structural items, too.

    Obviously, like all the Elsweyr stuff (and some other, non-Elsweyr, stuff people have paid money for), the textures of the craftable one should of course be fixed.

    Also, the luxury vendor item has a brazier attached, of course.

    I didn't buy it, in the end, as the brazier flame is blue and much as the occasional blue light can be nice, I normally prefer anything that is going to light a large area to be a slightly warm, white light.

    So, it doesn't distort the colours of other furnishings (like flowers and fabrics, for example).

    One of the reasons I'm less happy with the current Apex mounts than I would otherwise be is because you are forced to constantly carry around the compass, while mounted on it and the blue light from it (while nice on its own) distorts the beautiful colours of the fabric rolls.
    Edited by Tigerseye on September 2, 2019 5:38AM
  • Jayne_Doe
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    Wow! I didn't realize that these were all basically the same. Though I was a little disappointed in the lux vendor one, as it was 75k and I knew there were already other Khajiit statues out there (though I didn't realize that they were all basically the same).

    I did buy 2 of the lux versions since they had a brazier attached (though like Tigerseye, I'm generally more apt to use yellow lighting rather than blue). Plus, I've never purchased either of the achievement statues and haven't yet purchased the MW recipe (in fact, I haven't purchased ANY of the new recipes). But, 75k was still pretty steep, so only got two.

    Incidentally, it's not the first time they've repeated things. The orcish totems, for example, are identical to the achievement versions except one is just the head and not the whole piece. The lux daedric chest is basically the same as the achievement one. I think one of the Dark Brotherhood banners are identical, as well. Oh, and the one fern plant that was basically the same, just the color was a bit different (though the price was MORE than a bit different - like 3 times as much as the vendor one).

    Yeah...really don't get why they keep giving us the same items in slightly different forms. I get that it's easy to recycle the same content, but we're asking for furniture from assets already created. We all know how they like to recycle assets for houses, why can't they recycle them for furnishings, rather than recycling previous furnishings?
  • thatlaurachick
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    Today's Luxury Furnisher reminded me of this post: The "Nedic Stand, Ritual" is just the Craglorn Brazier with a slightly smaller top! What a disappointment. If I wanted to use the brazier as a stand, I'll just turn it off.

    Craglorn Brazier, extinguished:
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    Nedic Stand, Ritual
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    Edited by thatlaurachick on September 14, 2019 12:14AM
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    If you read this and rolled your eyes, maybe you need to stop assuming women don't know ***.
  • katanagirl1
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    The Craglorn Brazier, Ornate is another example of a duplicate furnishing item. There is a Craglorn Brazier that is an achievement furnishing from a vendor in Belkarth. I think they are exactly the same, or maybe only a very slight difference between the two.
    Edited by katanagirl1 on September 14, 2019 4:31AM
  • xaraan
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    The luxury furnishings the past several weeks have been really lackluster and lazy. Just essentially braziers that are vvardenfell wayshrines or the statue above or the nedic pedestal. It really needs some better attention and please stop saving all your effort for the crown store.
    Xaraan • NA • PC • AD • Argonian (x18 ) • 3/30/2014
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    Xa-Raan - (Sun's Dusk Reaper) - Vampire Magicka-Nightblade
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    Xâraan - (Huntmaster) - WW Stamina-Warden
    Xaraanorok - (Star-Made Knight) - Sorc-Tank
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  • Jayne_Doe
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    The Craglorn Brazier, Ornate is another example of a duplicate furnishing item. There is a Craglorn Brazier that is an achievement furnishing from a vendor in Belkarth. I think they are exactly the same, or maybe only a very slight difference between the two.

    IIRC, the one at the achievement vendor is old/worn. Still, though, I was disappointed to see the Nedic pedestal, which is only slightly different from the Craglorn brazier. I assumed, though, that it was designed to hold the Nedic orb from the previous week?

    C'mon - where's the datamined Summerset stuff?
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