Been around the MMO scene for over 20 years. Would rather have a buggy game that's awesome, then an optimized MMO that have lower standards on game design.
Been around the MMO scene for over 20 years. Would rather have a buggy game that's awesome, then an optimized MMO that have lower standards on game design.
Buggy?
How can you even play it when it keeps freezing?
Doesn't exactly sound "awesome" to me...especially at this moment.
Edit: I see in another post you say you're new to the game.
Just wait until you die to invisible enemies, AoE's you can't see because the telegraph doesn't work reliably, or your abilities taking your resources but not firing off any damage.
Let's see how awesome you find it after a few months of that...
Been around the MMO scene for over 20 years. Would rather have a buggy game that's awesome, then an optimized MMO that have lower standards on game design.
Buggy?
How can you even play it when it keeps freezing?
Doesn't exactly sound "awesome" to me...especially at this moment.
Edit: I see in another post you say you're new to the game.
Just wait until you die to invisible enemies, AoE's you can't see because the telegraph doesn't work reliably, or your abilities taking your resources but not firing off any damage.
Let's see how awesome you find it after a few months of that...
Ya I have run into a ton of bugs. Even not being able to loot bosses in dungeons. After playing WoW for too long (very polished MMO) I will take ESO any day of the week.
Been around the MMO scene for over 20 years. Would rather have a buggy game that's awesome, then an optimized MMO that have lower standards on game design.
Buggy?
How can you even play it when it keeps freezing?
Doesn't exactly sound "awesome" to me...especially at this moment.
Edit: I see in another post you say you're new to the game.
Just wait until you die to invisible enemies, AoE's you can't see because the telegraph doesn't work reliably, or your abilities taking your resources but not firing off any damage.
Let's see how awesome you find it after a few months of that...
Ya I have run into a ton of bugs. Even not being able to loot bosses in dungeons. After playing WoW for too long (very polished MMO) I will take ESO any day of the week.
snarkomatic wrote: »Been around the MMO scene for over 20 years. Would rather have a buggy game that's awesome, then an optimized MMO that have lower standards on game design.
Buggy?
How can you even play it when it keeps freezing?
Doesn't exactly sound "awesome" to me...especially at this moment.
Edit: I see in another post you say you're new to the game.
Just wait until you die to invisible enemies, AoE's you can't see because the telegraph doesn't work reliably, or your abilities taking your resources but not firing off any damage.
Let's see how awesome you find it after a few months of that...
Ya I have run into a ton of bugs. Even not being able to loot bosses in dungeons. After playing WoW for too long (very polished MMO) I will take ESO any day of the week.
It's better than WoW in a lot of ways, sure, but .. that doesn't mean it's beyond reproach.
I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
snarkomatic wrote: »Been around the MMO scene for over 20 years. Would rather have a buggy game that's awesome, then an optimized MMO that have lower standards on game design.
Buggy?
How can you even play it when it keeps freezing?
Doesn't exactly sound "awesome" to me...especially at this moment.
Edit: I see in another post you say you're new to the game.
Just wait until you die to invisible enemies, AoE's you can't see because the telegraph doesn't work reliably, or your abilities taking your resources but not firing off any damage.
Let's see how awesome you find it after a few months of that...
Ya I have run into a ton of bugs. Even not being able to loot bosses in dungeons. After playing WoW for too long (very polished MMO) I will take ESO any day of the week.
It's better than WoW in a lot of ways, sure, but .. that doesn't mean it's beyond reproach.
I find when a game fustrats its time to take a break. I do agree I hope the upcoming updates will fix some things but online games and bugs go hand in hand. Went back to EQ1 last year and I saw 20 year old bugs that were never fixed. It's just not worth getting upset about if you are having fun with all the other things that are awesome in ESO.
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
I would say BECAUSE combat is slower. more time for the game to process animations etc, vs ESO where with weaving and all that other crap - the game has to process so many different actions from so many players in so little time.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
sommerfieldmickey wrote: »The main problem is this. Since day one, there have been performance issues. Everytime we complain, ZOS acknowleges there are issues, but here is something shiny in the crown store. A year later ZOS tries to fix the issue but create 3 more worse issues. So instead of hitting lag spikes in Cyrodiil, now i have the the twins conversions not showing up in VMol, fates on last boss being invisible the whole time in VSS, and the entirety of VHof being damn near unplayable with its not allowing you to bar swap and instant skills taking 2 seconds to fire and the steamers cone spinning around on 2nd boss like a damn pinwheel.
But here is something else shiny you can buy
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
I often see a reply like this, and I have to ask...
How is it that literally every game can hot fix issues usually within an hour that takes Zos 3 months (if we're lucky) to get around to?
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
I often see a reply like this, and I have to ask...
How is it that literally every game can hot fix issues usually within an hour that takes Zos 3 months (if we're lucky) to get around to?
it does not take every other game to fix issues like that in an hour? best case scenario issues that go that deep takes them months. worst case scenario you have WoW where there are bugs that were there at LAUNCH and that game is almost 15 years old.
stop
exaggerating.
please.
ZoS have done their share of quick hotfixing... when they actualy COULD hotfix things.
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
I often see a reply like this, and I have to ask...
How is it that literally every game can hot fix issues usually within an hour that takes Zos 3 months (if we're lucky) to get around to?
it does not take every other game to fix issues like that in an hour? best case scenario issues that go that deep takes them months. worst case scenario you have WoW where there are bugs that were there at LAUNCH and that game is almost 15 years old.
stop
exaggerating.
please.
ZoS have done their share of quick hotfixing... when they actualy COULD hotfix things.
Only thing I've ever seen them hotfix was the crown store.
The bug that wouldn't let you reorder your characters on the log in screen? That took 3 months.
Stop
Your
Apologist attitude
Please
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
I often see a reply like this, and I have to ask...
How is it that literally every game can hot fix issues usually within an hour that takes Zos 3 months (if we're lucky) to get around to?
it does not take every other game to fix issues like that in an hour? best case scenario issues that go that deep takes them months. worst case scenario you have WoW where there are bugs that were there at LAUNCH and that game is almost 15 years old.
stop
exaggerating.
please.
ZoS have done their share of quick hotfixing... when they actualy COULD hotfix things.
Only thing I've ever seen them hotfix was the crown store.
The bug that wouldn't let you reorder your characters on the log in screen? That took 3 months.
Stop
Your
Apologist attitude
Please
right... because multiple incremental patches that they released the day after something easily fixable breaking - don't exist. and all those patch notes that can still be scrolled and read through are just fake news >_>
i'm not being an apologist. i'm saying that this incessant nagging especially about things that they have addressed and GAVE AN ACTUAL TIMELINE FOR is not fixing anything.
I'm not denying there are performance issues. i haven't run a random dungeon in EU in a while, because whether it actualy pops - is a crap-shoot. i have crashed to login screen as recently as today. i KNOW THE GAME HAS ISSUES. SO DOES ZoS.
all I'm trying to do here is to acknowledge that they are NOT ignoring us, and that they ARE publicly acknowledging the issues. i'm just trying to give them credit when credit is due.
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
I often see a reply like this, and I have to ask...
How is it that literally every game can hot fix issues usually within an hour that takes Zos 3 months (if we're lucky) to get around to?
it does not take every other game to fix issues like that in an hour? best case scenario issues that go that deep takes them months. worst case scenario you have WoW where there are bugs that were there at LAUNCH and that game is almost 15 years old.
stop
exaggerating.
please.
ZoS have done their share of quick hotfixing... when they actualy COULD hotfix things.
Only thing I've ever seen them hotfix was the crown store.
The bug that wouldn't let you reorder your characters on the log in screen? That took 3 months.
Stop
Your
Apologist attitude
Please
right... because multiple incremental patches that they released the day after something easily fixable breaking - don't exist. and all those patch notes that can still be scrolled and read through are just fake news >_>
i'm not being an apologist. i'm saying that this incessant nagging especially about things that they have addressed and GAVE AN ACTUAL TIMELINE FOR is not fixing anything.
I'm not denying there are performance issues. i haven't run a random dungeon in EU in a while, because whether it actualy pops - is a crap-shoot. i have crashed to login screen as recently as today. i KNOW THE GAME HAS ISSUES. SO DOES ZoS.
all I'm trying to do here is to acknowledge that they are NOT ignoring us, and that they ARE publicly acknowledging the issues. i'm just trying to give them credit when credit is due.
Did you not read the beginning two sentences in this post, or did you just automatically jump in on the defensive?
Lois McMaster Bujold "A Civil Campaign"Reputation is what other people know about you. Honor is what you know about yourself. Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the ***
shaielzafine wrote: »I agree. I love ESO, but right now it is so frustrating to play I have just given up! Playing FFXIV in the meantime and I'm amazed at how well it plays on PS4.
Same. I was floored at how well FF played even though the combat was slower than ESO before level 50. Although I'm on PC atm. I do love the crossplay for FF14 between PS4 and PC. I also like that if I wanted to play on PS4 it would carry over I just need to buy a PS4 copy of FF.
that said... i have to ask.. what do you all expect ZoS to do right now? today? do you honestly think they can just...whip up a fix in a space of a weekend?
I often see a reply like this, and I have to ask...
How is it that literally every game can hot fix issues usually within an hour that takes Zos 3 months (if we're lucky) to get around to?
it does not take every other game to fix issues like that in an hour? best case scenario issues that go that deep takes them months. worst case scenario you have WoW where there are bugs that were there at LAUNCH and that game is almost 15 years old.
stop
exaggerating.
please.
ZoS have done their share of quick hotfixing... when they actualy COULD hotfix things.
Only thing I've ever seen them hotfix was the crown store.
The bug that wouldn't let you reorder your characters on the log in screen? That took 3 months.
Stop
Your
Apologist attitude
Please
right... because multiple incremental patches that they released the day after something easily fixable breaking - don't exist. and all those patch notes that can still be scrolled and read through are just fake news >_>
i'm not being an apologist. i'm saying that this incessant nagging especially about things that they have addressed and GAVE AN ACTUAL TIMELINE FOR is not fixing anything.
I'm not denying there are performance issues. i haven't run a random dungeon in EU in a while, because whether it actualy pops - is a crap-shoot. i have crashed to login screen as recently as today. i KNOW THE GAME HAS ISSUES. SO DOES ZoS.
all I'm trying to do here is to acknowledge that they are NOT ignoring us, and that they ARE publicly acknowledging the issues. i'm just trying to give them credit when credit is due.
Did you not read the beginning two sentences in this post, or did you just automatically jump in on the defensive?
I read it. and I reread it. and your point is? if they could hotfix this? they would. since they are not hotfixing it, this means that the issue is most likely related to framerate and animation processing issues they have mentioned that they are working on. given that the game freezes up on you when there there is multitude of effects on the ground/extensive ability use. couple that with a load on a server with multiple people trying to do the same thing and... how do you expect them to hot fix something that seems to be related to the issue they have a timeline for?
but sure, call me apologist and the reply with equivalent of "u mad?" when i call you out on it.
I realize performance updates are coming. I'll be the first to lift my glass in toast if things get back to just a normal state.