[PVE or PVP] What is ESO's "Dad Build?"

HaruKamui

Pretty funny Kotaku article I read talks about "Dad Builds." PC Gamer says that "Dad Loadouts" are defined by three criteria:

1.Be easy to obtain with good perks.
2.Hold its own in competitive play.
3.Be easy to use in pretty much all circumstances.

What's ESO's Dad Build in your opinion? This thread is meant for info but also for fun. Personally its Pet Sorc for me. I just go on my Pet Sorc if im not at the top of my game (I.E. tired from University, etc.) and it works for both PVP and PVE.

CAB_Life

Magsorc/ Petsorc.

There’s definite finesse to the class, and a high skill ceiling for skilled players, don’t get me wrong. But it’s still ESO EZmode.

max_only

Pet Sorc is Mom Build actually.

Magicka Templar is Dad build.

HaruKamui

max_only wrote: »

Pet Sorc is Mom Build actually.

Magicka Templar is Dad build.

Haha! What's the criteria for Mom Builds? :PPPP

mairwen85

HaruKamui wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Pet Sorc is Mom Build actually.

Magicka Templar is Dad build.

Haha! What's the criteria for Mom Builds? :PPPP

Careful.. 👀

Synnastix

I’m a lazy dad without the patience to learn rotations and such. My builds:

Tank-ish DK with Bahara’s Curse, Leeching Plate, and Grothdarr. Slot up AoE and just wade through whatever pve content you want. Use it when I am super lazy and not interested in worrying about deaths.

Magplar with False God, Shadow Dancer, and Chudan. Little less tanky but you can still get through most pve a little faster.

PvP I dunno, I take both to Cyro but mostly run support or use siege. Just not my cup of tea but I still have fun.

Tan9oSuccka

Zoomaster Sorcerer.

max_only

HaruKamui wrote: »

max_only wrote: »

Pet Sorc is Mom Build actually.

Magicka Templar is Dad build.

Haha! What's the criteria for Mom Builds? :PPPP

Just as good at killing as it is at healing.

Dad builds are w + left mouse button. Jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs jabs - dad build.

Eiagra

(Whoops, did not realize someone had this topic opened already! Have some fresh copy-pasta.)

My "Dad Build" --
Race: Any
Class: Any
Type: Magicka PvE
- 5-Piece Rattlecage (Dungeon Set: Vaults of Madness)
- 5-Piece Law of Julianos (Crafted Set: Wrothgar)
- Head/Shoulders: Whatever. I started with Torug's Pact for spell damage (Crafted Set: Grahtwood/Stormhaven/Deshaan). Later I went with two mismatched Monster Sets (whatever gave me spell damage). I eventually acquired Mighty Chudan (Monster Set: Ruins of Mazzatun) but only by purchasing the helm when it was for sale at the weekend vendor. Because it was faster to save up a few hundred thousand gold over time than get good at Veteran Ruins of Mazzatun (Seriously, I got dinner to cook here...)

The goal of this build is simple: Power without maintenance (because I'm lazy... and too cheap to fuel a potion addiction). Rattlecage grants Major Sorcery, which bolsters the power provided by Julianos. Mighty Chudan also grants Major Ward and Major Resolve, which boost defenses that are otherwise lacking a bit (plus 1-piece defense bonuses and some extra health). Vaults of Madness is one of the easier dungeons to run with friends (and I did so a LOT until I got two Omen's Edge swords and a restoration staff for the back bar, but it was fun times even on Veteran)

I run this on an Orc Templar, and my play style is basically "Red Mage" -- I have good damage output to supplement heavy-hitters, good healing potential to keep people up in a pinch, and decent survivability to minimize those one-hit-wonders... but I am a master at none of them.

I'm usually tossing Puncturing Sweep plus whatever DoTs I feel like layering (when I remember to), using Breath of Life or Orbs (Undaunted) to heal, Meditate (Psijic) if I need to replenish a bit (this build doesn't have the best sustain), and Radiant Glory to help melt stuff at the end. Stabbies and Radiant heal me as I go, which I also like for survivability -- especially in crowds. Again, resource sustain isn't the best, so backing off to Meditate or heavy attack with my Restoration staff is necessary. I do okay, though.

I should add this is not at all designed for PvP, and I tend to get squashed if another player focuses on me.

Zer0_CooL

CAB_Life wrote: »

Magsorc/ Petsorc.

Thats not even a build..

Hippie4927

My "mom" build is a Dunmer vampire magplar. I use 5 piece Julianos, 5 piece War Maidens, and 2 piece Iceheart's (sometimes switched for Valkyn Skoria). I use a lightning staff on my front bar and flame staff on my backbar. Front bar is elemental blockade, breath of life, puncturing sweeps, blazing spears, and jesus beam. My backbar changes depending on what I am doing. I use destro staff ulti. This is not a PVP build!

commodore64

Kids using parental prefixes as insults. Your parents would be proud.

hamgatan

i cant wait for my son to come on and leak my builds in this thread..

guess who's getting grounded

Hippie4927

commodore64 wrote: »

Kids using parental prefixes as insults. Your parents would be proud.

I am far from being "a kid" and I fail to see what is insulting about the prefixes. Please enlighten me.

Mudguard

My perception of a dad build:

Two-handed Melee Weapon
Heavy Armor Damage Set, most likely Dreugh King Slayer
Tank/DPS : probably a stamina templar or stamina dragonknight
Nord or Orc with a large bushy beard wearing a dress

LaveniaRose

I run Shacklebreaker + Automation or Hundlings on most of my stam characters. Then I run Shacklebreaker + Transmutation on all of my mag characters. I've been running it for over a year since I got too busy to change sets with patches. Does that qualify it for a Dad build?

Rake

Dad build? You mean Dot build?

Saucy_Jack

On my magplar I wear 5pc darkstride and 5pc prisoners, for what USED to be 100% sprint cost reduction i.e. infinisprint. (Now it's close to infinisprint; there's some very minor stam loss though.)

My main focus is farming mats and dumpster-diving for deals in the traders, however when I fight literally anything - pve trash, pve bosses, dungeon mobs, ANYTHING - my rotation is as follows:

- a vampire's bane to kick things off
- a number of punc sweeps to whittle down mob hp
- a radiant oppression when their health is below 50%
- more of the above if they're not dead yet
- a shooting star ult if they're still not dead yet
- an honor the dead if I'm almost dead

You'll notice that's an ult plus only four skills; my fifth is rapids to farm and dumpster-dive more efficiently. Prisoners set also regens magicka while I run around frantically in boss fights.

I do not swap bars. Too much effort.

Kalik_Gold

Mudguard wrote: »

My perception of a dad build:

Two-handed Melee Weapon
Heavy Armor Damage Set, most likely Dreugh King Slayer
Tank/DPS : probably a stamina templar or stamina dragonknight
Nord or Orc with a large bushy beard wearing a dress

Two Handed melee √
Heavy Armor Set √
Stamina Templar √

5pc Night Mother’s Gaze, 5pc Ravager, Bloodspawn


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Derra

CAB_Life wrote: »

Magsorc/ Petsorc.

There’s definite finesse to the class, and a high skill ceiling for skilled players, don’t get me wrong. But it’s still ESO EZmode.

Gotta love when a classrep displays that much personal bias. Way to go.

The second statement gets reduced to nothing more than a hollow phrase by equalizing all of magsorc with petsorc in the first one.

Ragnork

My new mag dragon knight.
5 Piece Julianos
Chest and leg in heavy
Gloves, hat, shoulders in light
chest enchanted health and then with the trait infused. All others enchanted magic with the trait divines

5 piece Mothers Sorrow
Jewelry boots and waist

Staves in Seducer

When he can run dungeons he will farm for burning spellweave and then adjust around this.

Or keep the original and make the weapons in Julianos and then farm for shoulder and hat.

HaruKamui

Derra wrote: »

CAB_Life wrote: »

Magsorc/ Petsorc.

There’s definite finesse to the class, and a high skill ceiling for skilled players, don’t get me wrong. But it’s still ESO EZmode.

Gotta love when a classrep displays that much personal bias. Way to go.

The second statement gets reduced to nothing more than a hollow phrase by equalizing all of magsorc with petsorc in the first one.

And you are offended because? That was just his opinion, that sorcs are easy to get in to. He did say that the class still has finesse.

RavenSworn

HAHA Dad builds! nice name, really awesome name.

Heres mine:

5pc Automaton
5pc Hunding's Rage
2pc Kragh's

You have penetration, physical dmg and wep dmg boosts. Any race, i use this for my stamblade for years now. Able to pull off decent dps for vet hm as well. Also uses 2hander / DW so its really just a build for fun that can still be used for group dungeons. tweaked it, updated it for scalebreaker.

Stampede, carve, barbed trap, power extraction, reapers mark.
Rapid strikes, leeching strikes, surprise attack, relentless focus, Blade Cloak.

note that i dont pvp so i just can't be bothered with Caltrops all these while. However, with the change to Soul Magic, i will just take out reapers mark (since in a group setting you will have the tank providing that debuff) and change it with soul splitting trap. so its a 2hander aoe bar + single target DW bar. either can be back/front barred given your taste. dont have to use poisons, just use oblivion dmg chants + berserker chants while the 2hander can use the stam return chants for excellent sustain.

pdblake

I'm a dad and play PetSorc at the moment. I have played all of the classes in some form or another in the past though. Thinking of trying a warden again once I get this one to master crafter, which is a while away. It would take a lot for me to try a stealthy character again though, I just can't get the hang of stealth in this game.

Don't think anything really defines a "dad build". Depends on dad really.

Elsonso

All my "dad builds" are pretty dated at this point... MagSorc+Pet or MagWarden+Pet with the standard classical gear, Julianos + Necropotence and destruction staff. They still work, though.

Now that Elsweyr has dropped and I have another character slot, I have been working on my Dad Necromancer. WIP.

Agenericname

I wouldn't use the same build per se for everything, but as far as classes go sorcs and templars are versatile. I've been able to do quite a bit of content between those two classes, but I rarely run the same build for everything.

I have never used a pet sorc in PvP and I no longer heal in PvE, but I use them for both.

I've been promoted to grandpa though, it's a different game entirely.

Derra wrote: »

CAB_Life wrote: »

Magsorc/ Petsorc.

There’s definite finesse to the class, and a high skill ceiling for skilled players, don’t get me wrong. But it’s still ESO EZmode.

Gotta love when a classrep displays that much personal bias. Way to go.

The second statement gets reduced to nothing more than a hollow phrase by equalizing all of magsorc with petsorc in the first one.

I don't see that as entirely incorrect. More importantly I'm not entirely sure that ZOS shouldn't take a page from that manual and apply it to other classes. "Easy to play and difficult to master" seems like a good recipe for a game with so many casual that wants to keep a skill ceiling to reach for.

kylewwefan

I really enjoy swinging a giant 2H sword around in my underwear.

That Maelstrom Maul/ Hammer looking thing. That’s cool too.

Whatever style the Hulking Dragur chest piece is. I want that, but how it looks on a man. But then put it on a female character

Banana

Alcasts or whomevers 1 bar magicka sorcerer

DKMaestro

Dad with a dad build here...

As for my ESO dad build, mag sorc with 4 DOTs - doesn’t come easier than that now
I actually like the dot meta - we need to switch up sometimes and people need to adapt.
I am now farming for a second set to purge DOTs. Fun and different

Dads for the wins

SirLeeMinion

5 piece Shacklebreaker
5 piece Sloads
2 piece Fortified Brass

Orzorga's Blood Price Pie (Jewels of Misrule if you are PvPing)

Use and re-use to level every toon, every race, every class, stam or mag., pve, pvp. For a new account with no decent crafter and no friends on a new server, I had to use a different load out - it was very sad.

WrathOfInnos

Haha, pretty sure my builds have qualified the last 2 patches. In Wrathstone it was Magplar with a static rotation based around 4 8s DoTs. In Elsweyr it was single pet Sorc with a 3 DoT rotation (2 static, 1 dynamic).

I’m not sure what the latest “dad build” would be for Scalebreaker, probably something that uses 10 DoTs and simply presses the numbers 1-5, bar swap, 1-5, repeat. Sounds too boring for my taste.