Spamable for bow/bow?

sindalstar

Title says it all.

Which skill is performing better as a ranged spamable? Anyone tested it?

Both snipe and silver shards got buffed in numbers. Crushing weapon still standing?

MinaevNaKone

Lethal Arrow

SaintSubwayy

Snipe is stronger overall
It deals more dmg, and it also adds a guaranteed poisoned statuseffect (lethal Arrow) and is cheaper than silvershards.

ofc silver shards have no Cast time, and can hit up to 5 extra target for about half the main DMG, which can be good for fights which have multiple Targets, or trashfights.

sindalstar

Poisons with lethal arrow currently preferred to an infused bow with enchantment then?

Colecovision

I think that's why they changed silver shards. Fg passives and spamable.

labambao

Stamina morph of elemental weapon (forgot the skill name). Decent damage, little heals. With boww can be casted after light attack to activate, cuz LA from bow is projectile with pass time.

MinaevNaKone

labambao wrote: »

Stamina morph of elemental weapon (forgot the skill name). Decent damage, little heals. With boww can be casted after light attack to activate, cuz LA from bow is projectile with pass time.

no man. Its only mele skill

sindalstar

Has anyone done testing on the PTR to compare them on what comes out on top? Numbers?

It sounds like snipe is still the best option but I wasn't sure. I currently use shards as my aoe and snipe as my single target.

I'm not fond of crushing weapon

techprince

Silver Shards with Evil Hunter.

MinaevNaKone

sindalstar wrote: »

Has anyone done testing on the PTR to compare them on what comes out on top? Numbers?

It sounds like snipe is still the best option but I wasn't sure. I currently use shards as my aoe and snipe as my single target.

I'm not fond of crushing weapon

Stamnecro BOW/BOW Tzogvin + Releq + Stormfist, with Lethal Arrow spam = 49800DPS (clear), Shard is useful. Low DMG

ccfeeling

techprince wrote: »

Silver Shards with Evil Hunter.

How's your sustain ?

Like 6M parse .

susmitds

techprince wrote: »

Silver Shards with Evil Hunter.

Evil Hunter lasts 4 secs and costs 4k stamina.

Daedric_NB_187

susmitds wrote: »

techprince wrote: »

Silver Shards with Evil Hunter.

Evil Hunter lasts 4 secs and costs 4k stamina.

Was going to say that. Sustain would be trash.

FrancisCrawford

MinaevNaKone wrote: »

labambao wrote: »

Stamina morph of elemental weapon (forgot the skill name). Decent damage, little heals. With boww can be casted after light attack to activate, cuz LA from bow is projectile with pass time.

no man. Its only mele skill

False. I use it on bow bars all the time.

SodanTok

There will be little to no time to use spammables. On warden your spammable will be sub assault. On necro blastbones. On nightblade you will probably have no time or barspace for any.

Without any conclusive proof, while lethal arrow is best spammable, its advantages are greatly diminished when casted rarely. The benefit of stat boosting spammable (cutting dive and silver shards) also goes up when casted rarely. So no testing because I havent tested any class that has time to use silver shard or lethal arrow, but I would say if your rotation has time just for 3 snipes or less then silver shards will work out better.

Royalthought

I get rotation and all, but I’d be interested in hearing how each stacks up as spammables.

With just light attack weaving being the only other thing as an option, what would be the pros and cons of each?

Whenever I get hit with the urge to utilize the bow as a primary I’ve always went with crushing weapon. With the changes coming, perhaps it’s time to consider the alternatives?

JobooAGS

for pve, lethal arrow. pvp crushing weapon, but silver shards seems promising

sindalstar

Royalthought wrote: »

I get rotation and all, but I’d be interested in hearing how each stacks up as spammables.

With just light attack weaving being the only other thing as an option, what would be the pros and cons of each?

Whenever I get hit with the urge to utilize the bow as a primary I’ve always went with crushing weapon. With the changes coming, perhaps it’s time to consider the alternatives?

Based on the feedback (no raw numbers for all sitatuons)

Snipe appears to be a hardest hitting spamable. It has a cast time but is still able to be treated as one

Crushing weapon has a heal and no cast time though its numbers are lower it seems.

Silver shards likely do a nice chunk of damage now and have the bous of hitting a weaker aoe while coming with the passive damage passive. The evil hunter bumps damage but isnt sustainable in stamina.

I use snipe for single target and shards for aoe on live currently.

SodanTok

Royalthought wrote: »

I get rotation and all, but I’d be interested in hearing how each stacks up as spammables.

With just light attack weaving being the only other thing as an option, what would be the pros and cons of each?

Whenever I get hit with the urge to utilize the bow as a primary I’ve always went with crushing weapon. With the changes coming, perhaps it’s time to consider the alternatives?

Lethal arrow is like 70% stronger (on hit, not even counting the poisoned effect or defile) than any spammable you can pick while taking only around 200ms longer each hit to spam. No other spammable can match this when spamming. But thats not how real combat works. Time, passives and having to use other skills change importance of spammables

And no crushing weapon is simply weaker than new silver shards. Speaking from damage point of view. The heal and 'stealth' of crushing weapon is definitely still significant when it matters and can win over silver shard.

Bladerunner1

I still prefer acid spray in the spam spot. With all the extra skills on the bar, like soul trap, lightweight trap, spider silk every 5 seconds, the spammable only gets used once in my rotation, and acid spray adds a lot of dot damage while providing the largest area of coverage.

Royalthought

SodanTok wrote: »

Royalthought wrote: »

I get rotation and all, but I’d be interested in hearing how each stacks up as spammables.

With just light attack weaving being the only other thing as an option, what would be the pros and cons of each?

Whenever I get hit with the urge to utilize the bow as a primary I’ve always went with crushing weapon. With the changes coming, perhaps it’s time to consider the alternatives?

Lethal arrow is like 70% stronger (on hit, not even counting the poisoned effect or defile) than any spammable you can pick while taking only around 200ms longer each hit to spam. No other spammable can match this when spamming. But thats not how real combat works. Time, passives and having to use other skills change importance of spammables

And no crushing weapon is simply weaker than new silver shards. Speaking from damage point of view. The heal and 'stealth' of crushing weapon is definitely still significant when it matters and can win over silver shard.

I'll test it, but it'll definitely come down to play style.

From a PvP perspective, I'd often brawl with crushing/bow due to its speed. Being able to quickly land hits has often been the difference in the opponent getting away or someone else landing a killing blow.

I just wonder if snipe has any use outside of range?

With crushing (and hopefully the new shards) I enjoy fighting toe to toe and surprising the gap closing opponent that expected me to curl up and run. Lol