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So now Flawless DB is nerfed, what will be the front bar ulti for stam PvE?
nsmurfer
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Flawless Dawnbreaker (morph): This morph no longer passively increases your Weapon Damage by 5% for slotting. Instead, it grants you 300 Weapon Damage for 14 seconds, which ranks up to 20 seconds at Rank IV. This morph also no longer increases in damage by 1.1% per ranks.
What will stamina chars use as frontbar ulti now?
I don't think any other stamina ultimate has a DPS passive built into ultimate.
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ol_BANK_lo✭✭✭✭✭Flawless Dawnbreaker (morph): This morph no longer passively increases your Weapon Damage by 5% for slotting. Instead, it grants you 300 Weapon Damage for 14 seconds, which ranks up to 20 seconds at Rank IV. This morph also no longer increases in damage by 1.1% per ranks.
What will stamina chars use as frontbar ulti now?
I don't think any other stamina ultimate has a DPS passive built into ultimate.
So you have to use it to get the buff?Edited by ol_BANK_lo on July 7, 2019 10:22PM0 -
nsmurfer✭✭✭✭✭usmcjdking wrote: »DBOS.BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Flawless Dawnbreaker (morph): This morph no longer passively increases your Weapon Damage by 5% for slotting. Instead, it grants you 300 Weapon Damage for 14 seconds, which ranks up to 20 seconds at Rank IV. This morph also no longer increases in damage by 1.1% per ranks.
What will stamina chars use as frontbar ulti now?
I don't think any other stamina ultimate has a DPS passive built into ultimate.
So you have to use it to get the buff?
Dawnbreaker does not have enough sustained damage per ulti cost to see PvE usage, compared to things like Ballista and Meteor(for AoE).1 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Incap Strike for NB. Reave for the Win.
Warden has Bear, Necro can do Atro for the passive crit execute. Rest Classes - DBoSEdited by susmitds on July 7, 2019 10:26PM3 -
Muzzick✭✭✭✭Will try out dawnbreaker front soul harvest back. Even though we lost 5%, there's still 2% from fighters guild passive. The 300 bonus can be carried over backbar so would try to time ultimate before applying dots. If I were a stamsorc I'd just frontbar the werewolf ulti and keep ballista or on the backbar2
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susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Will try out dawnbreaker front soul harvest back. Even though we lost 5%, there's still 2% from fighters guild passive. The 300 bonus can be carried over backbar so would try to time ultimate before applying dots. If I were a stamsorc I'd just frontbar the werewolf ulti and keep ballista or on the backbar
2% weapon crit from Assassination passives>3% weapon damage in PvE by far.
That's before even taking 100 stam regen/sec from Reave into account2 -
nsmurfer✭✭✭✭✭Incap Strike for NB. Reave for the Win.
Warden has Bear, Necro can do Atro for the passive crit execute. Rest Classes - DBoS
It is sad really. Only class winning from this change is StamNB. Gilliam was a stamblade main all right, who even used Incap frontbar instead of FDB. The bias is obvious4 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭usmcjdking wrote: »DBOS.BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Flawless Dawnbreaker (morph): This morph no longer passively increases your Weapon Damage by 5% for slotting. Instead, it grants you 300 Weapon Damage for 14 seconds, which ranks up to 20 seconds at Rank IV. This morph also no longer increases in damage by 1.1% per ranks.
What will stamina chars use as frontbar ulti now?
I don't think any other stamina ultimate has a DPS passive built into ultimate.
So you have to use it to get the buff?
Dawnbreaker does not have enough sustained damage per ulti cost to see PvE usage, compared to things like Ballista and Meteor(for AoE).
Then use one of those?Incap Strike for NB. Reave for the Win.
Warden has Bear, Necro can do Atro for the passive crit execute. Rest Classes - DBoS
It is sad really. Only class winning from this change is StamNB. Gilliam was a stamblade main all right, who even used Incap frontbar instead of FDB. The bias is obvious
Don’t know if this is real or satire. You think Gilliam does this because he plays Stamblade and wants to be better?Edited by Seraphayel on July 7, 2019 11:03PMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -6 -
nsmurfer✭✭✭✭✭
@SeraphayelSeraphayel wrote: »usmcjdking wrote: »DBOS.BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Flawless Dawnbreaker (morph): This morph no longer passively increases your Weapon Damage by 5% for slotting. Instead, it grants you 300 Weapon Damage for 14 seconds, which ranks up to 20 seconds at Rank IV. This morph also no longer increases in damage by 1.1% per ranks.
What will stamina chars use as frontbar ulti now?
I don't think any other stamina ultimate has a DPS passive built into ultimate.
So you have to use it to get the buff?
Dawnbreaker does not have enough sustained damage per ulti cost to see PvE usage, compared to things like Ballista and Meteor(for AoE).
Then use one of those?
For Stamina PvE, only backbar ulti is used. So we are already have Ballista backbar(which cant be frontbarred anyways, being BOW skill). I am talking about Frontbar ultimate which is slotted for the passive not what it does when activated1 -
Muzzick✭✭✭✭Will try out dawnbreaker front soul harvest back. Even though we lost 5%, there's still 2% from fighters guild passive. The 300 bonus can be carried over backbar so would try to time ultimate before applying dots. If I were a stamsorc I'd just frontbar the werewolf ulti and keep ballista or on the backbar
2% weapon crit from Assassination passives>3% weapon damage in PvE by far.
That's before even taking 100 stam regen/sec from Reave into account
I factored using the ultimate as well, I'm not sure what PVE content were talking about here but I mostly do dungeons and with the nerfs to aoe Dot's I thought this would be helpful for the mobs in between bosses too.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Rend for any class lacking a good stam Ult I guess
Maybe psijic ult for the minor protection
Nothing is really a good replacement0 -
Jenzi✭✭✭✭I guess the only choice for me as a Warden is to slot my bear now, which means no more werewolf. I suppose since they have nerfed the crap out of werewolf, it’s going to be useless anyway. Such a shame.0 -
TheUrbanWizard✭✭✭✭From Stam Nb perspective I’ll try incap front ballista back ( pve).
For pvp no change incap front psijic ult backEdited by TheUrbanWizard on July 8, 2019 10:31AM1 -
MaleAmazon✭✭✭✭✭
✭Haven´t done the maths, but if the 300 WD is affected by percentage boosts which I assume it is, is it necessarily actually worse if you have good uptime? I get it that ballista does more DPS on a single target, but it doesn´t seem awful to me to actually use FDB.
Anyway, as has been written above, the werewolf ulti and psijic ulti are available to all. Or slot ballista + aoe/heal ulti.
And please don´t reduce the game to a DPS number. If healing is significantly impacted by the changes to grand healing etc, you might find use for ultis like lacerate. Even thrive in chaos is pretty underrated IMO.
But well, I don´t play vet trials hard mode so for those cases I´ll defer to the judgement of people who do that. I´d just like to remind people that this game, its classes and skills have 'died' more times than I can remember, and somehow it is still here.Edited by MaleAmazon on July 8, 2019 10:46AM0 -
master_vanargand✭✭✭✭✭
✭I do not use the Flawless Dawnbreaker in PvE of Elsweyr.
My NB uses Incapacitating Strike at the front's dw and back's bow.
Incap's Reave is undervalued.
Also, Incap of front can be used at the best timing.
Many people forget this.0 -
Shadowasrial✭✭✭✭✭
✭Incap for us nbs after an ambush surprise attack from the rear. Stack that minor vulnerability and minor berserk from camo hunter next patch follow by power extraction for the 300 weapon damage debuf on target for a second debuff.0 -
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✭✭The biggest question is why is it nerfed in the first place. DB of smiting has always been the most powerful morph and this only screws over PVE dps.4 -
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✭✭master_vanargand wrote: »I do not use the Flawless Dawnbreaker in PvE of Elsweyr.
My NB uses Incapacitating Strike at the front's dw and back's bow.
Incap's Reave is undervalued.
Also, Incap of front can be used at the best timing.
Many people forget this.
Timing, not really. In normal sNB rotation, you'd either way be swapping from the front bar to the back, and then swap-cancelling Incap back to the front (to benefit from front bar stats on Incap hit) right before your most damaging series of spammable + spectral bow shot. Except now, of course, not possible because Incap got cast time.0 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Im probably going to run Corrosive on my sDK. I liked FDB because it was a slottable damage increase and cheap sustain while soloing.1
