how can you rezz in a keep that another faction own ? (not beeing rezzed by anyone)
Lauranae
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We were at least 3 to observe this, a NB dead at our feet, rezzing plain and simple in middle of us in a fort that we just defended.
I whispered that player that she just cheated in front of us and will be reported, and the answer was
You must be new ... learn to play and check the necromancer skills ultimate......
all you pugs love zergging but does not know how to play. Then i was accused of surf zergging as i was not in a group : so defending a fort inside is also zergging now ?
- Reanimate: Bring your allies back from the brink of death, resurrecting up to 3 allies at the target location.
The problem is there was 0 NECRO in the fort, at the moment of the rezz
And the 3 of us are affirmative. The npc(s) in the fort were also very calm. not reacting to anyone alive. And we were just across the FD, almost facing them. For hidding often myself into a fort, i know that the npc react very fast and at large range.
---Now i know that a set can allow you to self rezz, or eventually a nb could have rezz her, but we were almost on her corpse, we would have saw the animation.
---As for a necro there was one earlier killed by us, she was the last one alive.
So for now i am just asking what could have allow this rezz ? Could a necro behind the wall outside the fort be able to use the ground target and rezz her ? if so is this normal ?
Depending of the answers i will get, i will report or not.
And to ease those who want to call me noob or more I can easily admit that i am not a brilliant pvper, and even if i am there since beta, i still learn a lot. I just want here to check about the skill animation and the possibility to rezz alone inside an enemy fort,
As for the player, she was brilliant indeed, she knew perfectly her class and how to evade, avoid and kill us. That was fun to fight her and evade her.
EDIT : just to clarify, when we killed her, we kept staying at her corpse not leaving her. She could have received a rezz offer but with us near her, watching over, and all the other people running around to check if anyone else was still inside, we would have saw something.
Edited by Lauranae on July 5, 2019 8:54PM I whispered that player that she just cheated in front of us and will be reported, and the answer was
You must be new ... learn to play and check the necromancer skills ultimate......
all you pugs love zergging but does not know how to play. Then i was accused of surf zergging as i was not in a group : so defending a fort inside is also zergging now ?
- Reanimate: Bring your allies back from the brink of death, resurrecting up to 3 allies at the target location.
The problem is there was 0 NECRO in the fort, at the moment of the rezz
And the 3 of us are affirmative. The npc(s) in the fort were also very calm. not reacting to anyone alive. And we were just across the FD, almost facing them. For hidding often myself into a fort, i know that the npc react very fast and at large range.
---Now i know that a set can allow you to self rezz, or eventually a nb could have rezz her, but we were almost on her corpse, we would have saw the animation.
---As for a necro there was one earlier killed by us, she was the last one alive.
So for now i am just asking what could have allow this rezz ? Could a necro behind the wall outside the fort be able to use the ground target and rezz her ? if so is this normal ?
Depending of the answers i will get, i will report or not.
And to ease those who want to call me noob or more I can easily admit that i am not a brilliant pvper, and even if i am there since beta, i still learn a lot. I just want here to check about the skill animation and the possibility to rezz alone inside an enemy fort,
As for the player, she was brilliant indeed, she knew perfectly her class and how to evade, avoid and kill us. That was fun to fight her and evade her.
EDIT : just to clarify, when we killed her, we kept staying at her corpse not leaving her. She could have received a rezz offer but with us near her, watching over, and all the other people running around to check if anyone else was still inside, we would have saw something.
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✭She may have been previously resurrected but not yet, pressed the pop up button.
like the 1st few seconds of this video (although this was in open world, not in a fort/keep):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEoN9tljV7A&frags=pl%2Cwn Edited by Kalik_Gold on July 5, 2019 8:50PMMain: (PvP & PvE)PS5/NA - Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar - Daggerfall Covenant • 1550+ Champion
Ras Kalik a Redguard Templar, the Vestige
PvP:
Aurik Siet'ka a Redguard Necromancer
Cacique the Sage of Ius a Redguard Warden
Jux Blackheart a Redguard Nightblade
Goliath of Hammerfell a Redguard Dragonknight
Kaotik Von Dae'mon a Redguard* Sorcerer
PvP: (Specialty)
Tyrus Septim an Imperial Lycan Sorcerer
Tsar af-Bomba a Redguard Vampiric Nightblade
Movárth Piquine a Nord Vampiric Necromancer
Uri Ice-Heart the Twin a Nord Vampiric Warden
PvE:
Cinan Tharn an Imperial Dragonknight
Bates Vesuius of Dawnstar an Imperial Dragonknight
Herzog Zwei the Genesis an Akavari* Templar
Tav'i at-Shinji a Redguard** Warden
Lucky Hunch the Gambler - a Redguard Nightblade
Leveling...
Zenovia at-Tura a Redguard** Sorcerer
Yesi af-Kalik a Redguard Templar
Voa a Priest of Sep a Redguard* Necromancer
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Passives of another race used. (RP)
*Breton
**Imperial
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Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.
Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.
Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...
Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.
Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.
The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.
The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.
Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.
Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)
And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.
After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.
After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...
Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.
Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.
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✭✭✭✭✭I've never done that with a normal revive, so I have no idea what that player did.
The only time I've been revived in an enemy fort is when we were attacking/defending it and I crashed to login. Sometimes the game would log me back in, still alive, where I'd been standing but the enemy had taken control of the keep in the meantime. At that point I just let the NPCs kill me, because bypassing the need to siege is an exploit.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭One thing I have seen far to often in recent years, people do not ensure the keep is clear once they take it. Considering you are saying the person that rezed was a skilled player the person with them just might have been similarly skilled and was able to rez then go invis (potion) to avoid being detected by you.
Just a thought as I have rezed a player in an enemy keep after we lost it. I was not detected. I was just careful.3 -
Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭One thing I have seen far to often in recent years, people do not ensure the keep is clear once they take it. Considering you are saying the person that rezed was a skilled player the person with them just might have been similarly skilled and was able to rez then go invis (potion) to avoid being detected by you.
Just a thought as I have rezed a player in an enemy keep after we lost it. I was not detected. I was just careful.
I know this is possible but yet you see the animation.
Here no animation, at all, no ground animation at all, nothing. 3of us standing at 1millimeter of her corpse and i was checking around stealth turning on my right, my left and behind me.My most recent charactersAD - Chjara NB-2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭One thing I have seen far to often in recent years, people do not ensure the keep is clear once they take it. Considering you are saying the person that rezed was a skilled player the person with them just might have been similarly skilled and was able to rez then go invis (potion) to avoid being detected by you.
Just a thought as I have rezed a player in an enemy keep after we lost it. I was not detected. I was just careful.
I know this is possible but yet you see the animation.
Here no animation, at all, no ground animation at all, nothing. 3of us standing at 1millimeter of her corpse and i was checking around stealth turning on my right, my left and behind me.
I cannot speak to what you saw as I did not see it. But an old fashion rez can remain pending for awhile.4 -
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✭✭✭Necro may have sneaked away already.
You get what 1 minute to accept the res.
Please do not automatically assume someone is cheating if they do something you thought impossible.
I get so many whispers like that from players i kill, they just cant accept that 1 player can kill them 1v5, i must be cheating.
Belive it or not cheating in this game isnt as prevalent as some might have you belive.5 -
MojaveHeld✭✭✭✭✭We were at least 3 to observe this, a NB dead at our feet, rezzing plain and simple in middle of us in a fort that we just defended.
I whispered that player that she just cheated in front of us and will be reported, and the answer was
You must be new ... learn to play and check the necromancer skills ultimate......
all you pugs love zergging but does not know how to play. Then i was accused of surf zergging as i was not in a group : so defending a fort inside is also zergging now ?
If she made an obviously false claim that you were zerg surfing when there were three of you, chances are higher that she was doing something illicit. When players get caught actually cheating, they sometimes resort to trying to deflect by making knowingly false attacks on you so that you feel too bad to report them. Now, it's possible that her rez was legitimate and she just has a nasty personality, but the fact that she reacted the way she did suggests that her cheating is not out of the realm of possibility in this case either.1 -
Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭Necro may have sneaked away already.
You get what 1 minute to accept the res.
Please do not automatically assume someone is cheating if they do something you thought impossible.
I get so many whispers like that from players i kill, they just cant accept that 1 player can kill them 1v5, i must be cheating.
Belive it or not cheating in this game isnt as prevalent as some might have you belive.
oh i dont doubt of the abilities, she killed me several times and i learn from that. I never ever yelled or raged after someone who killed me. If i go on a pvp world, then i have to accept my deaths (numerous). But again, i have to repeat
We were 3 to fight her, She died at our feet. Not far away. There was no NECRO in the area. I am affirmative. And i am not alone to say it.
When you try to rezz someone, there is the blue animation going on. Then the player receive the offer and can accept it or wait a little (usually i wait the last secondes).
But this time there was not possibility she receives an offer before dieing :P So how did she rezz with no offer ?
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Firstmep✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Necro may have sneaked away already.
You get what 1 minute to accept the res.
Please do not automatically assume someone is cheating if they do something you thought impossible.
I get so many whispers like that from players i kill, they just cant accept that 1 player can kill them 1v5, i must be cheating.
Belive it or not cheating in this game isnt as prevalent as some might have you belive.
oh i dont doubt of the abilities, she killed me several times and i learn from that. I never ever yelled or raged after someone who killed me. If i go on a pvp world, then i have to accept my deaths (numerous). But again, i have to repeat
We were 3 to fight her, She died at our feet. Not far away. There was no NECRO in the area. I am affirmative. And i am not alone to say it.
When you try to rezz someone, there is the blue animation going on. Then the player receive the offer and can accept it or wait a little (usually i wait the last secondes).
But this time there was not possibility she receives an offer before dieing :P So how did she rezz with no offer ?
You can use for example a heavy attack to mask most of the res animation.
If the person doing the res was also sneaking you may not have seen much of the res animation, if at all.0 -
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✭✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »She may have been previously resurrected but not yet, pressed the pop up button.
like the 1st few seconds of this video (although this was in open world, not in a fort/keep):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEoN9tljV7A&frags=pl%2Cwn
This... Done this a few times. Not bound to res when there someone camping my corpse
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Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭Kalik_Gold wrote: »She may have been previously resurrected but not yet, pressed the pop up button.
like the 1st few seconds of this video (although this was in open world, not in a fort/keep):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEoN9tljV7A&frags=pl%2Cwn
This... Done this a few times. Not bound to res when there someone camping my corpse
I do this a lot of time and i am not a nb but i have a bunch of invisible potions, and its in the outside not in a keep or fort.
and my set is one not used by much, helping me to run in stealth mode too.
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Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭Necro may have sneaked away already.
You get what 1 minute to accept the res.
Please do not automatically assume someone is cheating if they do something you thought impossible.
I get so many whispers like that from players i kill, they just cant accept that 1 player can kill them 1v5, i must be cheating.
Belive it or not cheating in this game isnt as prevalent as some might have you belive.
oh i dont doubt of the abilities, she killed me several times and i learn from that. I never ever yelled or raged after someone who killed me. If i go on a pvp world, then i have to accept my deaths (numerous). But again, i have to repeat
We were 3 to fight her, She died at our feet. Not far away. There was no NECRO in the area. I am affirmative. And i am not alone to say it.
When you try to rezz someone, there is the blue animation going on. Then the player receive the offer and can accept it or wait a little (usually i wait the last secondes).
But this time there was not possibility she receives an offer before dieing :P So how did she rezz with no offer ?
You can use for example a heavy attack to mask most of the res animation.
If the person doing the res was also sneaking you may not have seen much of the res animation, if at all.
wow i must be very very bad lol, each time i move a little the rezz cancel and i have to start again :P will have to check that more thenMy most recent charactersAD - Chjara NB-0 -
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✭✭There are a couple of ways it can happen. Wait to Rez after someone tried to Rez you. Also if you level up while dead you automatically Rez.PC/EU DC2 -
Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭Dont forget that she claimed a NECRO raised her when i accused her of cheating. So it was not a self rezz possibiity and in the 25 range necro skill there was no necro standing. And the skill can not be cast in stealth mode.
The only think i imagine is the necro standing behind a wall outside the keep and using the ground targeting to rezz her on location.
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✭well how do you know there was no necro standing there somewhere? might have been somewhere on the wall, used the ult, back to sneak, then 30 seconds later that NB stands up. that skill has a good range.PC | EU
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Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭well how do you know there was no necro standing there somewhere? might have been somewhere on the wall, used the ult, back to sneak, then 30 seconds later that NB stands up. that skill has a good range.
Can a necro stay invisible when i am spamming caltrops all around us included on platforms ? And when after the rezz we attacked the NB again, no one was there to help her.
Just a question, no mean intended
I know we can hide very often and quite without problem, i am often staying in keep and start killing npcs before a player come around, i killed a whole npc keep before they found me. So know we can hide but usually using an ability is removing hide/stealthEdited by Lauranae on July 5, 2019 11:09PMMy most recent charactersAD - Chjara NB-0 -
alainjbrennanb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭nb's can res while in cloakedMain character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike0
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Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.My most recent charactersAD - Chjara NB-2 -
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✭✭Last month we zerged chalman, broke the 2 door but managed to be defeated by dc but a nb managed tu ress 1 of us and by domino effect we were all up and defeated the last few dc inside and captured the keep. Then the dc zerg was stuck in the courtyard between half of us who captured the keep and the other half still outside
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Cheezits94✭✭✭✭✭So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.If you can't even spell sets, locations and items, you probably have no clue what you even are talking about.
Tamriel, not Tamerial, Temerial or Tamériál
Alkosh, not Alkoash
Dolmen, not Dolman
Olorime, not Oloramie
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Lauranae✭✭✭✭✭Cheezits94 wrote: »So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.
First i whispered the player, and yes said she cheated BUT i still did not report her. So i think its legitimate to seak a correct answer, and if were alone to say that i would probably doubt of myself, but when 3 players says absolutely the same thing after seeing together the same event, then again, i am seeking an answer.
Then, i am waiting for an answer from ZOS_GinaBruno : I still not understand why suddenly in PVP a class could rezz a player through a wall.
Edited by Lauranae on July 6, 2019 11:38PMMy most recent charactersAD - Chjara NB-1 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Cheezits94 wrote: »So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.
First i whispered the player, and yes said she cheated BUT i still did not report her. So i think its legitimate to seak a correct answer, and if were alone to say that i would probably doubt of myself, but when 3 players says absolutely the same thing after seeing together the same event, then again, i am seeking an answer.
Then, i am waiting for an answer from ZOS_GinaBruno : I still not understand why suddenly in PVP a class could rezz a player through a wall.
It would be interesting to get a response from ZOS on this, because in a similar fashion, its an exploit to bypass the need to siege walls/door in order to enter a keep.
So does that also apply to actions taken within a keep that prior to the necro ult required being inside the keep?
In this case, prior to the new ability, it was impossible to rez a player inside a sealed keep unless the rezzing player was also in the keep (barring things like a delayed rez, obviously). Now, its been proven possible that with the necro ult, it doesn't take keep status into account, allowing players to bypass the need to siege their way into a sealed keep in order to rez dead players inside that keep.
So is that intended behavior? I suspect so, because I can't see how ZOS would code the ability to distinguish keep status, but I do think its going to have an interesting impact on Cyrodiil. Everyone make darn sure those bodies are cleared out or watched.0 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Cheezits94 wrote: »So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.
First i whispered the player, and yes said she cheated BUT i still did not report her. So i think its legitimate to seak a correct answer, and if were alone to say that i would probably doubt of myself, but when 3 players says absolutely the same thing after seeing together the same event, then again, i am seeking an answer.
Then, i am waiting for an answer from ZOS_GinaBruno : I still not understand why suddenly in PVP a class could rezz a player through a wall.
It would be interesting to get a response from ZOS on this, because in a similar fashion, its an exploit to bypass the need to siege walls/door in order to enter a keep.
So does that also apply to actions taken within a keep that prior to the necro ult required being inside the keep?
In this case, prior to the new ability, it was impossible to rez a player inside a sealed keep unless the rezzing player was also in the keep (barring things like a delayed rez, obviously). Now, its been proven possible that with the necro ult, it doesn't take keep status into account, allowing players to bypass the need to siege their way into a sealed keep in order to rez dead players inside that keep.
So is that intended behavior? I suspect so, because I can't see how ZOS would code the ability to distinguish keep status, but I do think its going to have an interesting impact on Cyrodiil. Everyone make darn sure those bodies are cleared out or watched.
Teleport strike/ambush can get you in a keep through gated doors if you're attacking someone going through. Precise timing is all you need. Seen it happen and I feel it's the same concept... The skill is agnostic in relation to the keep. The skill is just the skill.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »Cheezits94 wrote: »So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.
First i whispered the player, and yes said she cheated BUT i still did not report her. So i think its legitimate to seak a correct answer, and if were alone to say that i would probably doubt of myself, but when 3 players says absolutely the same thing after seeing together the same event, then again, i am seeking an answer.
Then, i am waiting for an answer from ZOS_GinaBruno : I still not understand why suddenly in PVP a class could rezz a player through a wall.
It would be interesting to get a response from ZOS on this, because in a similar fashion, its an exploit to bypass the need to siege walls/door in order to enter a keep.
So does that also apply to actions taken within a keep that prior to the necro ult required being inside the keep?
In this case, prior to the new ability, it was impossible to rez a player inside a sealed keep unless the rezzing player was also in the keep (barring things like a delayed rez, obviously). Now, its been proven possible that with the necro ult, it doesn't take keep status into account, allowing players to bypass the need to siege their way into a sealed keep in order to rez dead players inside that keep.
So is that intended behavior? I suspect so, because I can't see how ZOS would code the ability to distinguish keep status, but I do think its going to have an interesting impact on Cyrodiil. Everyone make darn sure those bodies are cleared out or watched.
Teleport strike/ambush can get you in a keep through gated doors if you're attacking someone going through. Precise timing is all you need. Seen it happen and I feel it's the same concept... The skill is agnostic in relation to the keep. The skill is just the skill.
That, along with using DK chains to get up on the walls, is exactly the exploit I was speaking of. ZOS has said that's bypassing the need to siege and is an exploit.1 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Cheezits94 wrote: »So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.
First i whispered the player, and yes said she cheated BUT i still did not report her. So i think its legitimate to seak a correct answer, and if were alone to say that i would probably doubt of myself, but when 3 players says absolutely the same thing after seeing together the same event, then again, i am seeking an answer.
Then, i am waiting for an answer from ZOS_GinaBruno : I still not understand why suddenly in PVP a class could rezz a player through a wall.
It would be interesting to get a response from ZOS on this, because in a similar fashion, its an exploit to bypass the need to siege walls/door in order to enter a keep.
So does that also apply to actions taken within a keep that prior to the necro ult required being inside the keep?
In this case, prior to the new ability, it was impossible to rez a player inside a sealed keep unless the rezzing player was also in the keep (barring things like a delayed rez, obviously). Now, its been proven possible that with the necro ult, it doesn't take keep status into account, allowing players to bypass the need to siege their way into a sealed keep in order to rez dead players inside that keep.
So is that intended behavior? I suspect so, because I can't see how ZOS would code the ability to distinguish keep status, but I do think its going to have an interesting impact on Cyrodiil. Everyone make darn sure those bodies are cleared out or watched.
Teleport strike/ambush can get you in a keep through gated doors if you're attacking someone going through. Precise timing is all you need. Seen it happen and I feel it's the same concept... The skill is agnostic in relation to the keep. The skill is just the skill.
That, along with using DK chains to get up on the walls, is exactly the exploit I was speaking of. ZOS has said that's bypassing the need to siege and is an exploit.
Looks like it's being fixed with u23.0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Cheezits94 wrote: »So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.
First i whispered the player, and yes said she cheated BUT i still did not report her. So i think its legitimate to seak a correct answer, and if were alone to say that i would probably doubt of myself, but when 3 players says absolutely the same thing after seeing together the same event, then again, i am seeking an answer.
Then, i am waiting for an answer from ZOS_GinaBruno : I still not understand why suddenly in PVP a class could rezz a player through a wall.
It would be interesting to get a response from ZOS on this, because in a similar fashion, its an exploit to bypass the need to siege walls/door in order to enter a keep.
So does that also apply to actions taken within a keep that prior to the necro ult required being inside the keep?
In this case, prior to the new ability, it was impossible to rez a player inside a sealed keep unless the rezzing player was also in the keep (barring things like a delayed rez, obviously). Now, its been proven possible that with the necro ult, it doesn't take keep status into account, allowing players to bypass the need to siege their way into a sealed keep in order to rez dead players inside that keep.
So is that intended behavior? I suspect so, because I can't see how ZOS would code the ability to distinguish keep status, but I do think its going to have an interesting impact on Cyrodiil. Everyone make darn sure those bodies are cleared out or watched.
Teleport strike/ambush can get you in a keep through gated doors if you're attacking someone going through. Precise timing is all you need. Seen it happen and I feel it's the same concept... The skill is agnostic in relation to the keep. The skill is just the skill.
That, along with using DK chains to get up on the walls, is exactly the exploit I was speaking of. ZOS has said that's bypassing the need to siege and is an exploit.
Looks like it's being fixed with u23.
Ah, this? "Fixed numerous instances where well-timed ability uses from charges, leaps, teleports, blinks, and pulls could allow you to bypass collision"
If that's the case, I'm looking forward to it.0 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Cheezits94 wrote: »So i made a test with my necro, and husband
He let him died inside a fort, approximatively where the NB died.
I went outside, near his position and rezzed him without problem. ME outside. Him inside.
Then he made sur to die, we dont want to benefit of a strange rezz
So its strange for me. I should not be able to rezz someone behind a wall.
See.. Maybe you should have tested that before accusing a player of cheating. Seems your claim is false.
First i whispered the player, and yes said she cheated BUT i still did not report her. So i think its legitimate to seak a correct answer, and if were alone to say that i would probably doubt of myself, but when 3 players says absolutely the same thing after seeing together the same event, then again, i am seeking an answer.
Then, i am waiting for an answer from ZOS_GinaBruno : I still not understand why suddenly in PVP a class could rezz a player through a wall.
It would be interesting to get a response from ZOS on this, because in a similar fashion, its an exploit to bypass the need to siege walls/door in order to enter a keep.
So does that also apply to actions taken within a keep that prior to the necro ult required being inside the keep?
In this case, prior to the new ability, it was impossible to rez a player inside a sealed keep unless the rezzing player was also in the keep (barring things like a delayed rez, obviously). Now, its been proven possible that with the necro ult, it doesn't take keep status into account, allowing players to bypass the need to siege their way into a sealed keep in order to rez dead players inside that keep.
So is that intended behavior? I suspect so, because I can't see how ZOS would code the ability to distinguish keep status, but I do think its going to have an interesting impact on Cyrodiil. Everyone make darn sure those bodies are cleared out or watched.
Teleport strike/ambush can get you in a keep through gated doors if you're attacking someone going through. Precise timing is all you need. Seen it happen and I feel it's the same concept... The skill is agnostic in relation to the keep. The skill is just the skill.
That, along with using DK chains to get up on the walls, is exactly the exploit I was speaking of. ZOS has said that's bypassing the need to siege and is an exploit.
Looks like it's being fixed with u23.
Ah, this? "Fixed numerous instances where well-timed ability uses from charges, leaps, teleports, blinks, and pulls could allow you to bypass collision"
If that's the case, I'm looking forward to it.
I believe that's what it means.0