StamSorc PvP (Cyrodil) question

LogicOfLiam

I've been looking all over for 'advice' on a StamSorc build set up with DW and SnS, but I cannot find anything after hours of searching of people doing it, I want to use the DW for burst and I hate 2h (just can't grip them); I know a lot of people use 2h only as a buff bar for momentum, an maybe an execute on whatever the skill is called (I forget). But, is there any reason why DW and SnS won't work?

The build will consist of 5 Medium and 2 Heavy (body + legs), not too clear on sets, thinking maybe Hundlings/Spriggan/Slimeclaw or Khra'gh, but idek.
All Impen, 5 Tri Enchants and 2 Stam enchants. Jewellry either set on Stam regen or weapon damage.

I'd be using smth like:
DW bar - Vigor, Flury, Blood Craze (need to remorph), Bound Aromatics, Hurrican
Dawnbreaker

Maybe swap BA to have Hidden Dagger for Major Brutality to free up my potion to a tri stat.

SnS bar - Shuffle, Bash (as gap closer), Puncture or Low Slash, Bound Aromatics, Crit Surge
SnS ult.

Maybe swap BA to have both Puncture and Low Slash as the decrease in Physical resistance and less movement speed is great. Or rearming trap.

As you can probably tell I'm no PvPer, I really want to get into it, I just really wanna avoid 2H.

Thank you (:

Waffennacht

You only have vigor and maybe blood craze (but you said re morph) as heals.

If you don't wanna use 2h, then I'd suggest using dark conversion (iirc that's the correct one)

You should also use .... Uh brain freeze... Bleeds ability...

Best advice is to play PvP and then adjust as you learn

gabormezo

Bound Aromatics. Lol, dude, you have made my day. Its morph is Bound Wet Aromatics, right? Use dat, dude, use dat.

LogicOfLiam

Waffennacht wrote: »

You only have vigor and maybe blood craze (but you said re morph) as heals.

If you don't wanna use 2h, then I'd suggest using dark conversion (iirc that's the correct one)

You should also use .... Uh brain freeze... Bleeds ability...

Best advice is to play PvP and then adjust as you learn

I also use crit surge as heals, my the heal?

LogicOfLiam

gabormezo wrote: »

Bound Aromatics. Lol, dude, you have made my day. Its morph is Bound Wet Aromatics, right? Use dat, dude, use dat.

Lol awk. Bound Armamants 😶😶😶

Waffennacht

liam.a.robertsb16_ESO wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

You only have vigor and maybe blood craze (but you said re morph) as heals.

If you don't wanna use 2h, then I'd suggest using dark conversion (iirc that's the correct one)

You should also use .... Uh brain freeze... Bleeds ability...

Best advice is to play PvP and then adjust as you learn

I also use crit surge as heals, my the heal?

It's an absolutely great, as I like to call them, "stay in the pocket" ability. Because it triggers off of critical hits you'll be needing some form of offense. The heals will negate some of the incoming damage reducing pressure allowing you to be more aggressive.

This however does not replace defensive heals when you start nearing execute range. You need something bursty while being defensive to reset and re attack

ccmedaddy

DW/SnB is perfectly viable on stamsorc and actually a pretty popular combo. You don't really need rally on a stamsorc when you have dark deal and a bunch of HoTs ticking w/ vigor, crit surge, blood craze, etc.

If I were you I'd drop shuffle and run quick cloak+streak instead. You'll lose snare immunity but you'll be much more mobile overall. Also, why not spin to win?

mursie

essence thief, savage werewolf back bar sword and board.

front bar: master's DW

monster set: pirate skeleton, troll king, blood spawn

when you're front bar you'll have 4 pc bonus active for savage werewolf and essence thief. when you're back bar on snb you'll proc both sets.

enjoy. dw/snb is great

dw bar: rend / whirling / RAT / bound arm / vigor / dawnbreaker
snb bar: crit surge / hurricane / heroic slash / shielded assault / dark deal / temporal guard

adjust as you see fit.

ccmedaddy

mursie wrote: »

essence thief, savage werewolf back bar sword and board.

front bar: master's DW

monster set: pirate skeleton, troll king, blood spawn

when you're front bar you'll have 4 pc bonus active for savage werewolf and essence thief. when you're back bar on snb you'll proc both sets.

enjoy. dw/snb is great

dw bar: rend / whirling / RAT / bound arm / vigor / dawnbreaker
snb bar: crit surge / hurricane / heroic slash / shielded assault / dark deal / temporal guard

adjust as you see fit.

Damn this is a really cool and original build. Too bad I can't be bothered to farm 2 dlc dungeon sets rn

Abhaya

Here’s my build that I use mostly for BG’s but also Cyrodiil when I decide that I want to hate myself but anyways it’s tailored for no-CP.

Imperial (not BIS. could switch to orc with serpent mundus, etc.)
Warrior Mundus
Lava Foot food

Armor is all impen, 6 medium 1 heavy. All stamina glyphs. Ideally the chest is the heavy piece but can change to accomodate monster sets if you don’t have the right weight for those. All points into stamina unless your health is really low then put just enough into health to get ~20k hp in no-cp.

1: mighty chudan
1: pirate skeleton (switch for bloodspawn would also be good but the 2 one pieces give more consistent survivability for me and I don’t need the extra regen)
5: fortified brass
3: agility infused with weapon damage
1: titanic cleave maul, nirnhoned, weapon damage glyph (weapon type isn’t super relevant)
1: DSA sword and board, nirnhoned, impen shield, stamina drain and stamina glyphs

2-hand bar: stampede, executioner, cleave (bleed morph), forward momentum, hurricane, berserker rage

sword and board: puncture (morph is personal preference for solo or group utility), reverberating bash, vigor, dark deal, bound armaments, temporal guard

Rotation is buff (maintain hurricane at all times and refresh FM when snared,) charge, apply bleed, weapon swap, reverb on CD, then light attack / bash weave puncture. I personally just light attack weave because bash weaving is tiring and I’m not going to risk macroing it. Never use temporal guard unless you are really desperate since it’s so buggy. When you have ultimate up wait until you can hit a reverb, weapon swap and berserker strike into executioner spam. You could switch berserker strike for dawnbreaker if you want the AOE but the build is kinda setup for targeting individual players not AOE damage.

Notes: agility isn’t the most common set now that weapon sets had their stat bonus removed but between the infused agility rings and medium armor passives you have great weapon damage still. Berserker strike hits like a truck and can take down a lot of enemies if their health isn’t capped when you drop it. If they survive executioner usually finishes the job. Really skilled players can break free in the time that you are weapon swapping after reverb but this rarely happens and they have to be really quick.

The sword and board bar and agility jewels could be swapped for seventh legion or some other 5 piece but I prefer consistent stats rather than relying on procs that may or may not be there when you need it (same reason I’m not using bloodspawn.)

You are almost resist capped on your 2-hand bar and go over on the sword and board bar but this helps negate major fracture. If you are getting low on HP hit vigor and try to LOS or get some space to dark deal. You can fit 2 dark deals before refreshing vigor which is usually sufficient unless you are getting focused. You have a ton of resist on this bar and minor protection so you can take some hits still while you’re casting DD.

The regen on this is pretty low so you need to spam dark deal at all times you are not attacking or sprinting. I use simple stam pots for monetary reasons which is enough to keep me going but ideally I would use immovable pots or the ones that give stamina and crit chance if you aren’t poor like me.

Sorry in advance for grammar and punctuation I’m on my phone at work. Let me know what yall think of my build!

Edit: I know you don’t want to use 2-hand but I wanted to share my build and you can adjust to use different weapon sets easily since it uses agility instead of a second 5-piece.

LogicOfLiam

Thank you everyone for sharing your builds/advice. You have all given me stuff to think about and take into consideration!
Some really unique and different builds here too!
I look forward to seeing you in the tides of battle!

LogicOfLiam

ccmedaddy wrote: »

DW/SnB is perfectly viable on stamsorc and actually a pretty popular combo. You don't really need rally on a stamsorc when you have dark deal and a bunch of HoTs ticking w/ vigor, crit surge, blood craze, etc.

If I were you I'd drop shuffle and run quick cloak+streak instead. You'll lose snare immunity but you'll be much more mobile overall. Also, why not spin to win?

I have been second guessing Shuffle tbh. Two good options to replace it with, may go for Cloak.

BECAUSE I AM NOT A BEYBLADE!

Waffennacht

liam.a.robertsb16_ESO wrote: »

ccmedaddy wrote: »

DW/SnB is perfectly viable on stamsorc and actually a pretty popular combo. You don't really need rally on a stamsorc when you have dark deal and a bunch of HoTs ticking w/ vigor, crit surge, blood craze, etc.

If I were you I'd drop shuffle and run quick cloak+streak instead. You'll lose snare immunity but you'll be much more mobile overall. Also, why not spin to win?

I have been second guessing Shuffle tbh. Two good options to replace it with, may go for Cloak.

BECAUSE I AM NOT A BEYBLADE!

RAT is just so good. Snare immunity, major expedition (to couple with the minor of hurricane) and the critical damage (minor force?) Plus passive shield and damage if you max out the line

Just something to consider

mursie

Abhaya wrote: »

You could switch berserker strike for dawnbreaker if you want the AOE but the build is kinda setup for targeting individual players not AOE damage.

interesting build. based on the comment above, maybe switch the DSA maul to a maelstrom one and get more out of your stampede and single target pressure. DSA is more of an AOE weapon for zerg busting 6+ people.

other than that - i like it. sustain in no cp looks rough but lava foot would help counter that.