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New Dungeons Mechanics (no more portals)
gamerguy757
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Look...seriously...the last several Trial ms have all had portal mechanics. Maw of Lorkhaj, Cloudrest, Sunspire.
I’m just saying...[removed comment]
“Yo Johnson, can’t figure out what to do with this dungeon!”
“Have you tried a unique mechanic?”
“You want to lose your job?”
“How about portals?”
“Promoted AF”
[removed comment] Stop with the portals and try something different
Edited by ZOS_JesC on June 25, 2019 2:49PM I’m just saying...[removed comment]
“Yo Johnson, can’t figure out what to do with this dungeon!”
“Have you tried a unique mechanic?”
“You want to lose your job?”
“How about portals?”
“Promoted AF”
[removed comment] Stop with the portals and try something different
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gamerguy757✭✭✭✭✭Unique mechanic:
Bosses that apply Major debuffs to an entire group if too close
Cloning DPS test
Bosses that apply Disease Damage that lowers healing.
Oblivion gates that open up and huge numbers of daedra swarm and the gates must be burned down.
Adds that explode and must be used to remove shields from bosses
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Ash_In_My_Sujamma✭✭✭✭✭Reasons I didn't like Sunspire:
Most of the trial is a combination of reskined mechanics and visual themes (there are exceptions).
The dragons feel underwhelming because the amount of conjuration mechanics they use draw the attention from them to the conjured atronachs.
While the dragons visualy operate above the horizon line, all the mechanics players have to pay attention to are below it which feels very disconnected visualy.
Other than that the environment design of sunspire is very beautifull and the quest is also cool.
(MoL is still the best trial in game though)1 -
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✭✭As long as we don't get any range only trial trash anymore, I am down for anything.
Join a vAS or vCR raid as melee and you know what I mean. Those mechanics needs to stop.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It is rather tiresome to see such similar mechanic over and over. It does show a stagnant thought. I think the overall design of the two previous trials, AS and CR, are prime examples of lazy design.Got any ideas? Throw them out there maybe Finn will steal some.
This is one thing we actually pay Zos to do. MattF is in charge of making sure the team has creative talent. With that, heck yes I have ideas for fight mechanics that would be in line with the fights we have had in ESO (MoL) but not reuse mechanics from other fights.
Zos is free to contact me if they want the ideas but no need to post them here as I seriously doubt this thread will be read.1 -
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✭✭Eh backroom / portals started with MoL.
The backroom in MoL is just a fancier portal mechanic. The only difference between MoL and backroom of other encounters is MoL doesn't re-use the same room, the premise is basically the same though across them all <X group members exit main encounter -> Go to a designated area to do X -> If they fail bad Y happens, in the case of MoL or Cloudrest the group then wipes>.Edited by karekiz on June 25, 2019 3:05PM0 -
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✭gamerguy757 wrote: »Look...seriously...the last several Trial ms have all had portal mechanics. Maw of Lorkhaj, Cloudrest, Sunspire.
I’m just saying...[removed comment]
“Yo Johnson, can’t figure out what to do with this dungeon!”
“Have you tried a unique mechanic?”
“You want to lose your job?”
“How about portals?”
“Promoted AF”
[removed comment] Stop with the portals and try something different
how about we start with more roles then 10 dps and a DPS tank and 1 heal . i mean come the fudge on the game is so homogenized its boring.0 -
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I'm sure all the melee DD will love you.gamerguy757 wrote: »Bosses that apply Major debuffs to an entire group if too close
What does that even mean?gamerguy757 wrote: »Cloning DPS test
I guess you haven't done Cloudrest.gamerguy757 wrote: »Bosses that apply Disease Damage that lowers healing.
Kinda reminds me of Cloudrest.gamerguy757 wrote: »Oblivion gates that open up and huge numbers of daedra swarm and the gates must be burned down.
So... like the frost/storm atro mechanic on Lokkestiiz.gamerguy757 wrote: »Adds that explode and must be used to remove shields from bosses
Great originality there.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
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- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
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✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »Unique mechanic:
Bosses that apply Major debuffs to an entire group if too close
Cloning DPS test
Bosses that apply Disease Damage that lowers healing.
Oblivion gates that open up and huge numbers of daedra swarm and the gates must be burned down.
Adds that explode and must be used to remove shields from bosses
The oblivion gates are portals and we already got that mechanic in planar inhibitor1 -
r34lian✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love portals of regret
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✭✭✭✭✭You have a point:
vMoL - Go into the back room and kill some cats before it kills the whole group
vHoF - Go upstairs and kill some robots before it kills the whole group
vCR - Go into the portal and kill some crystals before it kills the whole group
vSS - Go into the time breach and kill the servant before it kills the whole group
Arguably the mechanics of each of these have become less interesting over time. Starting from running around finding the enemies with synergies on maze-like paths, to disabling shields and coordinated button presses, to carrying crystals and jumping upstairs, and finally just doing damage while surviving mechanics that are all pulled from other fights.2 -
aaisoaho✭✭✭✭✭Got any ideas? Throw them out there maybe Finn will steal some.
I remember a statement how PvE doesn't have sneaking enemies - why not make it a mechanic? A boss goes invisible and tries to sneak to a player - if the boss succeeds to do it, oneshot and repeat the sneak until everybody is slaughtered or the boss is caught sneaking. Or weak oneshotting adds sneaking. (weak, so you can kill them ASAP when you find one)
And yes, my main is still a bosmer and I would like to have purpose in PvE for my passive.0 -
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Yeah, melee is not screwed out of content often enough. Oh, and vCR execute is a bit like that.gamerguy757 wrote: »Bosses that apply Major debuffs to an entire group if too close
Oh wow, vCR execute again, they even went one step further there. And, just maybe, Stonekeeper too?gamerguy757 wrote: »Bosses that apply Disease Damage that lowers healing.
Have you done any of the game dungeons beyond FG1? Planar Inhibitor... wink, wink.gamerguy757 wrote: »Oblivion gates that open up and huge numbers of daedra swarm and the gates must be burned down.
Ever heard about Caluurion? No, not the gank set, the actual guy. He has those totems and skeletons that explode... put 2 and 2 together?gamerguy757 wrote: »Adds that explode and must be used to remove shields from bosses
So how unoriginal are you if even ZOS already came up with all of those?0 -
Fang_of_Lorkhaj✭✭✭✭All I see here is the subtle screams of someone who got shafted in a portal mech. RIP1
