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Can we fix necros so PvP is enjoyable again?
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Matthew_Galvanus✭✭✭✭✭
✭"necros are completely broken." I mean aside from the fact that magcro is one of the weakest classes in game, healcros are borderline useless, stamcro proves that, once again, stamina based builds are king, and tankcro is fun, but its not exactly busted.Edited by Matthew_Galvanus on June 21, 2019 12:20AM17 -
Sylvermynx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So.... wait. You somehow thought that the "flavor of the year" class wasn't going to be OP?
Hmmm.10 -
Matthew_Galvanus✭✭✭✭✭
✭Legendzerox wrote: »
guarantee this was a CP campaign, you build enough penetration and this is what happens. he still died and ultimately did nothing1 -
JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭At least wait until sometime after the 24th so I can create one and troll like mad in PvP with the OP bash attack0 -
OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »Legendzerox wrote: »
guarantee this was a CP campaign, you build enough penetration and this is what happens. he still died and ultimately did nothing
Lol you are so clueless about this game what do you even want on the forums?
Just watch this for actual good footage and high octane gameplay
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ckU1MtZ-4 class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling11 -
_Salty_✭✭✭✭✭I won't set foot in cyrodiil until they get the bash ulti toned down.Psn l---Salty---l
Patiently waiting to make a Stankcromancer.5 -
OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Also its no cp so no pen and potatoe mashing. The ult is just brokenclass representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling4 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
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JamieAubrey✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OlumoGarbag wrote: »Matthew_Galvanus wrote: »Legendzerox wrote: »
guarantee this was a CP campaign, you build enough penetration and this is what happens. he still died and ultimately did nothing
Lol you are so clueless about this game what do you even want on the forums?
Just watch this for actual good footage and high octane gameplayhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ckU1MtZ-4
I can't escape this video4 -
OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
Im actually clueless why there are so many walking dunning kruger effects running around like you. I mean i cant even blame you, or the hundret others defending this ult, your just not expirienced enough with pvp mechanics in generell, but pls stop posting on pvp related topics if you only have dangerous half-knowledge!class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling8 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭OlumoGarbag wrote: »Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
Im actually clueless why there are so many walking dunning kruger effects running around like you. I mean i cant even blame you, or the hundret others defending this ult, your just not expirienced enough with pvp mechanics in generell, but pls stop posting on pvp related topics if you only have dangerous half-knowledge!
Slow down and read my post over. Yes, I said the damage is broke, but again don't stack and move out of the way. I don't use it and I haven't died to it yet with the exception of being zerged down. Learn some basic counter tactics my friend and your cyrodiil experience will be much better.
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OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭OlumoGarbag wrote: »Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
Im actually clueless why there are so many walking dunning kruger effects running around like you. I mean i cant even blame you, or the hundret others defending this ult, your just not expirienced enough with pvp mechanics in generell, but pls stop posting on pvp related topics if you only have dangerous half-knowledge!
Slow down and read my post over. Yes, I said the damage is broke, but again don't stack and move out of the way. I don't use it and I haven't died to it yet with the exception of being zerged down. Learn some basic counter tactics my friend and your cyrodiil experience will be much better.
q.e.d.class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling0 -
Mr_Walker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭OlumoGarbag wrote: »Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
Im actually clueless why there are so many walking dunning kruger effects running around like you. I mean i cant even blame you, or the hundret others defending this ult, your just not expirienced enough with pvp mechanics in generell, but pls stop posting on pvp related topics if you only have dangerous half-knowledge!
Mein gott! DANGEROUS!
I'm laughing my head off at just how freaking poorly some of you handle a new type of bomber. You're making me question all those claims of "PvP is the true end-game".
Edited by Mr_Walker on June 21, 2019 2:48AM5 -
ImSoPro✭✭✭I don’t think necro is as broken as anyone says. Magcro to be more specific. Pretty decent burst heal. Good spammable, pretty good sustain. Good synergies. Things it lacks like speed and ranged cc can be worked around. I use race against time(also add that snare immunity, very clutch) and destructive reach. My works fine 95% of the time. Sometimes it runs up to an enemy and doesn’t explode. It follows them for the entire duration and then explodes. The ultimate may be OP but it’s easy to dodge. Out of a group you always will catch one though.
I’m probably the minority but that’s ok. 0 -
merevie✭✭✭✭✭Not going to give details people can learn from but current known record belongs to an Ep player and is 28 + stayed alive.
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Dunning_Kruger✭✭✭✭OlumoGarbag wrote: »Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
Im actually clueless why there are so many walking dunning kruger effects running around like you. I mean i cant even blame you, or the hundret others defending this ult, your just not expirienced enough with pvp mechanics in generell, but pls stop posting on pvp related topics if you only have dangerous half-knowledge!
You rang?
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A G G R O - the legendary stamplar GM of <HALL MONITORS>
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OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dunning_Kruger wrote: »OlumoGarbag wrote: »Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
Im actually clueless why there are so many walking dunning kruger effects running around like you. I mean i cant even blame you, or the hundret others defending this ult, your just not expirienced enough with pvp mechanics in generell, but pls stop posting on pvp related topics if you only have dangerous half-knowledge!
You rang?
Lol easy the best name for forums, i love it.class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling0 -
Dinokstrun✭✭✭Necromancer is a dead class in pvp literally spent 6+ hours doing bgs and Cyrodiil and I didn't encounter a single Necromancer. While we're at it lets be real Goliath bash is only strong because of SnB passives and its not hard to counter. Can we all revert back to type and go back to whining about mag sorcs, stamblades and blackrose resto?4 -
OlumoGarbag✭✭✭✭✭
✭Dinokstrun wrote: »Necromancer is a dead class in pvp literally spent 6+ hours doing bgs and Cyrodiil and I didn't encounter a single Necromancer. While we're at it lets be real Goliath bash is only strong because of SnB passives and its not hard to counter. Can we all revert back to type and go back to whining about mag sorcs, stamblades and blackrose resto?
I love playing magcro healer tho. Its close behind warden and nb for bgs.class representative for the working class, non-cp, bwb and Trolling2 -
PVP is absolutely enjoyable with necro bash and transformation. When one necro removes a whole bunch of PVD heros - it's beautiful. Almost like old good vamp magdk.1 -
AdreQSoul ShrivenDon't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
How can you flip a keep without stacking on the flag? They build up the ultimate, pop an invisibility potion, then gank the group flipping the flag. That's all they do. They might as well be ganking with Volendrung.
I've played since beta, and have never posted in here before (because I HATE forums) and never has there been something SO broken as Goliath Pummeling Bash.2 -
Qbiken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Agree, necro should get a rework so they're actually useful when they can't use their ultimates.
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Sansoul✭✭✭Legendzerox wrote: »Necros are completely broken and honestly its pretty unfun fighting against them.
Fine Necro is fine.
Git gud.1 -
Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
How can you flip a keep without stacking on the flag? They build up the ultimate, pop an invisibility potion, then gank the group flipping the flag. That's all they do. They might as well be ganking with Volendrung.
I've played since beta, and have never posted in here before (because I HATE forums) and never has there been something SO broken as Goliath Pummeling Bash.
Fact: an entire group does not have to stack on a flag to flip it quickly. If full groups are stacking on flags without support, then they deserve to get bombed or bashed to death. If there’s a bashing necromancer in your vicinity, people need to spread out, kill the necromancer, and get back to flipping the flag.
As for the bash itself, yes, the damage done is on the extreme side and needs to be looked at. It’s possible to avoid, however. It’s not like these guys are hitting you from stealth — you can see them coming a mile away, and if they transform right next to you, you have a long time to get away. I’ve died exactly once to a bashing necromancer, and that was in a BG the very first time I encountered a bashcro.4 -
Deedleqwerty✭✭✭✭✭Necro healer is op. I can stand on the back flag and heal, and the bashers lose, over and over and over.~Deedleqwerty [PS5] / NA / EU
CP 3294 NA / CP 1661 EU
Aldmeri Dominion - Wardevils
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Aurielle✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Deedleqwerty wrote: »Necro healer is op. I can stand on the back flag and heal, and the bashers lose, over and over and over.
Hey, Deedle.
Yes, necro healers are OP. Love my healtank necro too. Can stand on back flag and keep up minor protection via totem, OP AOE heals with tether, and auto res up to three squishies who die to that brainless spam. Meanwhile, since I’ve got Thurvokun on and use blastbones, the dumb bashromancer gets hit with constant minor and major defile.
Was going to hop on my DK after my walk, but I think I’m going to hop onto good ol’ Lifts-Your-Spirits FOR THE QUEEN.3 -
Sanctum74✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Don't get me wrong the bash damage is broken, but just like every other AOE ult, don't stack and move out of the way.
How can you flip a keep without stacking on the flag? They build up the ultimate, pop an invisibility potion, then gank the group flipping the flag. That's all they do. They might as well be ganking with Volendrung.
I've played since beta, and have never posted in here before (because I HATE forums) and never has there been something SO broken as Goliath Pummeling Bash.
First off you do not need a stacked group to flip a flag, secondly you should always go upstairs before flipping to clear oils and bombers, thirdly when you do finally flip the flag always keep your buffs, hot's, and shields up and be ready to dodge roll out of the way.
Yes the damage is broken, but it is easily avoidable. Hopefully they will make some adjustments, but in the meantime all you can do is use the counters that have already worked against bombers for years.
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